Re: [TLS] WGLC for "Deprecating TLSv1.0 and TLSv1.1"

2019-05-09 Thread Hubert Kario
On Wednesday, 8 May 2019 02:31:57 CEST Martin Rex wrote: > Hubert Kario wrote: > >> Thanks to Peter Gutmann for the summary: > >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/g0MDCdZcHsvZefv4V8fssXMeEHs > >> > >> which you may have missed. > > > > yes, Joux paper also shows that attacking MD5||

[TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-tls13-cert-with-extern-psk-01.txt

2019-05-09 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Transport Layer Security WG of the IETF. Title : TLS 1.3 Extension for Certificate-based Authentication with an External Pre-Shared Key Author : Ru

Re: [TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-tls13-cert-with-extern-psk-01.txt

2019-05-09 Thread Russ Housley
I received some editorial suggestions by private email during WG Last Call. This update implements those suggestions. Here is the URL for the diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-tls-tls13-cert-with-extern-psk-00&url2=draft-ietf-tls-tls13-cert-with-extern-psk-01&difftype=--hwdiff

[TLS] Proposal to deprecate sha1 and md5 for digital signatures in TLS 1.2

2019-05-09 Thread Loganaden Velvindron
Hi all, Following the recent thread on TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1 deprecation, we came up with a proposal to deprecate md5 and sha1 for digital signatures in the TLS 1.2 spec. Please find the draft at this url: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lvelvindron-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate-03 We look forward to y

Re: [TLS] WGLC for "Deprecating TLSv1.0 and TLSv1.1"

2019-05-09 Thread Martin Rex
Hubert Kario wrote: >On Wednesday, 8 May 2019 02:31:57 CEST Martin Rex wrote: >> Hubert Kario wrote: Thanks to Peter Gutmann for the summary: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/g0MDCdZcHsvZefv4V8fssXMeEHs which you may have missed. >>> >>> yes, Joux paper also sho

Re: [TLS] Proposal to deprecate sha1 and md5 for digital signatures in TLS 1.2

2019-05-09 Thread Martin Thomson
It might pay to spend more time on explaining what you are trying to do. The goal appears to be to remove a dependency on signature schemes that include these weaker hash functions. But the introduction just says that the functions are bad. You should be very clear about what effect this has o

Re: [TLS] WGLC for "Deprecating TLSv1.0 and TLSv1.1"

2019-05-09 Thread Peter Gutmann
Martin Rex writes: >What *WOULD* provide *HUGE* benefit, would be to remove the dangerous >"protocol version downgrade dance" from careless applications, that is the >actual problem known as POODLE, because this subverts the cryptographic >procection of the TLS handshake protocol. Is there anyth