[TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

2017-10-02 Thread Ralph Droms
We are about to publish draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00. The TLS extension defined in this I-D takes into account what we heard from the discussion regarding TLS visibility and draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-00 in Prague. Specifically, it provides an opt-in capability for both the TLS cl

Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

2017-10-02 Thread Stephen Farrell
Sigh:-( IMO the WG shouldn't touch this terrible proposal with a bargepole. And it remains outside the WG's charter I think. (It would be a good idea if the chairs would clarify that a re-charter would be needed were the WG to go bonkers and adopt a terrible idea like this.) I guess I'll need t

Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

2017-10-02 Thread Russ Housley
> For starters, though, I'd be interested answers from the authors > to two quick questions, though I suspect I can guess 'em: > > 1. TLS1.3 has had significant formal analysis. Did the authors > or other proponents here do any such work and if so can you send > a pointer to your results? If not,

Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

2017-10-02 Thread Richard Barnes
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Russ Housley wrote: > > For starters, though, I'd be interested answers from the authors > > to two quick questions, though I suspect I can guess 'em: > > > > 1. TLS1.3 has had significant formal analysis. Did the authors > > or other proponents here do any such wo

Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

2017-10-02 Thread Stephen Farrell
Russ, On 02/10/17 22:43, Russ Housley wrote: >> For starters, though, I'd be interested answers from the authors to >> two quick questions, though I suspect I can guess 'em: >> >> 1. TLS1.3 has had significant formal analysis. Did the authors or >> other proponents here do any such work and if s