[TLS] open issues for draft-ietf-tls-chacha20-poly1305-00

2015-08-04 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
Hi, An open issue for draft-ietf-tls-chacha20-poly1305-00 raised by Eric Rescorla is that this draft doesn't use the draft-TLS 1.3 mechanism for setting the nonce per record [0]. Is there any support for switching these ciphersuites to draft-TLS 1.3 nonce mechanism even for TLS 1.2? The altern

Re: [TLS] 0-RTT & resumption

2015-08-04 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Ilari Liusvaara < ilari.liusva...@elisanet.fi> wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 09:07:49PM +0200, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > > > > > We agreed on how to do this in Prague. The sticking point was > establishing > > the cipher suite. I have WIP text on my machine for b

Re: [TLS] Review of PR #209

2015-08-04 Thread Martin Thomson
On 3 August 2015 at 17:21, Andrei Popov wrote: >> use CertificateRequest within the handshake, and the new content type >> outside of it > > Would the client then also use this new content type for Certificate and > CertificateVerify messages (when these are sent after the handshake is > comple

Re: [TLS] open issues for draft-ietf-tls-chacha20-poly1305-00

2015-08-04 Thread Martin Thomson
On 4 August 2015 at 05:37, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos wrote: > Is there any support for > switching these ciphersuites to draft-TLS 1.3 nonce mechanism even for > TLS 1.2? The alternative is to use the TLS 1.2 mechanism with the > redundant bytes redacted as the draft is now [1]. Personally, I would

Re: [TLS] open issues for draft-ietf-tls-chacha20-poly1305-00

2015-08-04 Thread Salz, Rich
> Personally, I would rather see the nonce construction follow the form > defined in the respective TLS version. Yes, consistency. +1 ___ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls

Re: [TLS] Review of PR #209

2015-08-04 Thread Andrei Popov
I'm not opposed to using a new content type in this way, if folks feel that this makes things better. Cheers, Andrei -Original Message- From: Martin Thomson [mailto:martin.thom...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 9:13 AM To: Andrei Popov Cc: tls@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TLS] Rev

Re: [TLS] open issues for draft-ietf-tls-chacha20-poly1305-00

2015-08-04 Thread David Benjamin
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:20 PM Salz, Rich wrote: > > Personally, I would rather see the nonce construction follow the form > > defined in the respective TLS version. [DB: Adding back in for context: > "That means including redundant bytes in TLS 1.2 and only getting the full > advantage when we

Re: [TLS] open issues for draft-ietf-tls-chacha20-poly1305-00

2015-08-04 Thread Martin Thomson
On 4 August 2015 at 10:24, Wan-Teh Chang wrote: > The consistency you want to see seems to be > consistency with the AES GCM cipher suites, rather than with TLS 1.2. Yes, this is correct. RFC 5288: struct { opaque salt[4]; opaque nonce_explicit[8];