Re: [TLS] ban more old crap (was: A la carte concerns from IETF 93)

2015-07-23 Thread Hubert Kario
On Thursday 23 July 2015 11:43:45 Dave Garrett wrote: > On Thursday, July 23, 2015 07:09:49 am Hubert Kario wrote: > > vast swaths of web servers are misconfigured; introducing a more complex > > mechanism to server configuration when the existing situation is > > incomprehensible to many administr

Re: [TLS] ban more old crap (was: A la carte concerns from IETF 93)

2015-07-23 Thread Yuhong Bao
; To: tls@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [TLS] ban more old crap (was: A la carte concerns from IETF 93) > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:43:45AM -0400, Dave Garrett wrote: > >> Right now, the restrictions section prohibits: >> RC4, SSL2/3, & EXPORT/NULL entirely (via min

Re: [TLS] ban more old crap (was: A la carte concerns from IETF 93)

2015-07-23 Thread Dave Garrett
On Thursday, July 23, 2015 12:00:34 pm Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:43:45AM -0400, Dave Garrett wrote: > > Plus, "MUST" use DHE or ECDHE for ALL connections, even back to TLS 1.0, > > or abort with a fatal error. > > Who's going to police the Internet to remove all the legac

Re: [TLS] ban more old crap (was: A la carte concerns from IETF 93)

2015-07-23 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:43:45AM -0400, Dave Garrett wrote: > Right now, the restrictions section prohibits: > RC4, SSL2/3, & EXPORT/NULL entirely (via min bits) > and has "SHOULD" use TLS 1.3+ compatible with TLS 1.2, if available So much for using NULL ciphers for client-server authentication