Re: [TLS] The alternative idea I had for token buckets.

2017-03-28 Thread Martin Thomson
On 28 March 2017 at 10:57, Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) wrote: > Sorry, I wasn't aware that unlinkability was a requirement... Yeah, it's the only hard requirement. :) ___ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls

Re: [TLS] The alternative idea I had for token buckets.

2017-03-28 Thread Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
Sorry, I wasn't aware that unlinkability was a requirement... > -Original Message- > From: Martin Thomson [mailto:martin.thom...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:51 AM > To: Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) > Cc: > Subject: Re: [TLS] The alternative idea

Re: [TLS] The alternative idea I had for token buckets.

2017-03-28 Thread Martin Thomson
On 28 March 2017 at 10:48, Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) wrote: > The server recovers E_K(R) because the client sent it (along with i and the > protected message). It recovers R because it also knows K. So E_K(R) is sent directly? That would link packets. __

Re: [TLS] The alternative idea I had for token buckets.

2017-03-28 Thread Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
> -Original Message- > From: Martin Thomson [mailto:martin.thom...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:46 AM > To: Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) > Cc: > Subject: Re: [TLS] The alternative idea I had for token buckets. > > On 28 March 2017 at 10:41, Scott Flu

Re: [TLS] The alternative idea I had for token buckets.

2017-03-28 Thread Martin Thomson
On 28 March 2017 at 10:41, Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) wrote: > E_K(R); that is, R is encrypted with the server's long term key. > > (I meant to specify that...) OK, so how does the server recover E_K(R)? The point here is that it doesn't know R. ___ TL

Re: [TLS] The alternative idea I had for token buckets.

2017-03-28 Thread Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
: [TLS] The alternative idea I had for token buckets. > > I'm sorry, but I don't understand this proposal. I'm losing you when you say > E(R) without specifying the key that you are using. > > On 28 March 2017 at 10:21, Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) > wrote: >

Re: [TLS] The alternative idea I had for token buckets.

2017-03-28 Thread Martin Thomson
I'm sorry, but I don't understand this proposal. I'm losing you when you say E(R) without specifying the key that you are using. On 28 March 2017 at 10:21, Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer) wrote: > Here’s how it would work: > > > > - The server has a long term secret key K, which it never gives