Re: [TLS] Semi-Static Diffie-Hellman Key Establishment for TLS 1.3

2018-04-10 Thread Tony Putman
I've been thinking about this on and off. From: TLS [mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eric Rescorla Sent: 08 March 2018 23:25 I think that this and draft-putman are not competing, but rather that they serve different use cases Agreed. It sounds like you have a set of use cases where you

Re: [TLS] Semi-Static Diffie-Hellman Key Establishment for TLS 1.3

2018-03-08 Thread Christopher Wood
static key which could later be used in a draft-putman > > > exchange; however, the natural continuation would be to use a resumption > > > PSK, so this would only be useful if there were a long gap between > > > session, which seems unlikely. > > >

Re: [TLS] Semi-Static Diffie-Hellman Key Establishment for TLS 1.3

2018-03-08 Thread Eric Rescorla
:* TLS [mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Christopher Wood > *Sent:* 07 March 2018 01:26 > *To:* ; Eric Rescorla > *Subject:* Re: [TLS] Semi-Static Diffie-Hellman Key Establishment for TLS > 1.3 > > > > Thanks for putting this together! I’m in favor of the mechanism

Re: [TLS] Semi-Static Diffie-Hellman Key Establishment for TLS 1.3

2018-03-08 Thread Tony Putman
on PSK, so this would only be useful if there were a long gap between session, which seems unlikely. Regards, Tony From: TLS [mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Wood Sent: 07 March 2018 01:26 To: ; Eric Rescorla Subject: Re: [TLS] Semi-Static Diffie-Hellman Key Establishment f

Re: [TLS] Semi-Static Diffie-Hellman Key Establishment for TLS 1.3

2018-03-06 Thread Christopher Wood
Thanks for putting this together! I’m in favor of the mechanism and look forward to discussing it. Negotiating with signature_algorithms is a simple way to roll this out, it fits in cleanly with the key schedule, and the benefits outlined in the introduction (PRNG hardening, plausible deniabilit