Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-12-17 Thread Sean Turner
The adoption call ended on Friday. There is support for adopting and working on this draft as a WG item. A few thought the draft could/should be split into different drafts, but the chairs believe we can split the drafts later if that is the consensus of the WG. NOTE: Technically, we will for

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-25 Thread Daniel Migault
lf Of *Daniel Migault > *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2019 10:20 AM > *To:* Panos Kampanakis (pkampana) > *Cc:* TLS List > *Subject:* Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls > > > > I clearly support the adoption of the work, but it seems important to &

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-25 Thread Antoine Delignat-Lavaud
I support this effort, and would like to point out that we have recently published a paper [1] and a collection of tools [2] to automatically verify the security (non malleability) of binary message formats, which we successfully applied to all of TLS [3] (which revealed many small specificatio

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-24 Thread Jim Schaad
I believe that this is a worth while effort. I will be willing to review and might contribute text -Original Message- From: TLS On Behalf Of Sean Turner Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 9:36 PM To: TLS List Subject: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls At IETF 105, ekr pre

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-21 Thread Hannes.Tschofenig
As a co-author of the document I am in favor of adopting it. I have started on implementation work on top of Mbed TLS already and plan to continue doing that work as it progresses through the IETF. -Original Message- From: TLS On Behalf Of Sean Turner Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 1:3

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-21 Thread Hannes.Tschofenig
: TLS List Subject: Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls I clearly support the adoption of the work, but it seems important to ensure cTLS integrates or remains in line with the work on compression that has been accomplished at the IETF - SCHC defined in lpwan might be a

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-21 Thread Daniel Migault
:* Sean Turner > *Cc:* TLS List > *Subject:* Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls > > > > I support the adoption. > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 8:36 AM Sean Turner wrote: > > At IETF 105, ekr presented cTLS (Compact TLS) [0][1][2] to both the TLS

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-21 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
+1, support adoption. From: TLS On Behalf Of Dmitry Belyavsky Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:46 AM To: Sean Turner Cc: TLS List Subject: Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls I support the adoption. On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 8:36 AM Sean Turner mailto:s...@sn3rd.com

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-21 Thread Dmitry Belyavsky
I support the adoption. On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 8:36 AM Sean Turner wrote: > At IETF 105, ekr presented cTLS (Compact TLS) [0][1][2] to both the TLS WG > and the LAKE BOF, which is now a chartered WG [3]. After some discussions, > the ADs suggested [4] that the TLS WG consider whether this draf

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-21 Thread Richard Barnes
I also support adoption. On the question of how the work should be factored: It is true that this work comprises 3-4 fairly separable technologies. However, they have in common that they need to be pre-agreed between the client and server (except possibly the "known certificates" mechanism, which

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-21 Thread Tommy Pauly
I support adoption of this work. Best, Tommy > On Nov 21, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Sean Turner wrote: > > At IETF 105, ekr presented cTLS (Compact TLS) [0][1][2] to both the TLS WG > and the LAKE BOF, which is now a chartered WG [3]. After some discussions, > the ADs suggested [4] that the TLS WG c

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-21 Thread CJ Tjhai
+1 support this adoption. CJ > On 21 Nov 2019, at 05:36, Sean Turner wrote: > > At IETF 105, ekr presented cTLS (Compact TLS) [0][1][2] to both the TLS WG > and the LAKE BOF, which is now a chartered WG [3]. After some discussions, > the ADs suggested [4] that the TLS WG consider whether thi

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-20 Thread Thomas Fossati
Yes, please. On 21/11/2019, 05:36, "TLS on behalf of Sean Turner" wrote: At IETF 105, ekr presented cTLS (Compact TLS) [0][1][2] to both the TLS WG and the LAKE BOF, which is now a chartered WG [3]. After some discussions, the ADs suggested [4] that the TLS WG consider whether this draft

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-20 Thread Paul Yang
I’d like to see it’s adopted as well. It’s important for low-bandwidth scenarios. Regards, Paul Yang > On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Benjamin Beurdouche > wrote: > > I support adoption. > B. > >> On Nov 21, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Salz, Rich wrote: >> >>  >>> >>> I think it's a good starting

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-20 Thread Benjamin Beurdouche
I support adoption. B. > On Nov 21, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Salz, Rich wrote: > >  >> >> I think it's a good starting point. I support adoption. > > Strongly agree. > > ___ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-20 Thread Christopher Wood
I support adoption. Best, Chris (no hat) On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Karthik Bhargavan wrote: > I support adoption. > > > On 21 Nov 2019, at 06:53, Salz, Rich wrote: > > > >> I think it's a good starting point. I support adoption. > > > > Strongly agree. > > > > _

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-20 Thread Karthik Bhargavan
I support adoption. > On 21 Nov 2019, at 06:53, Salz, Rich wrote: > >> I think it's a good starting point. I support adoption. > > Strongly agree. > > ___ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls __

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-20 Thread Salz, Rich
>I think it's a good starting point. I support adoption. Strongly agree. ___ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-20 Thread Ben Schwartz
I support adoption. In the spirit of Ted Hardie's comment on dividing the work into pieces, I'd like to suggest putting the handshake compression into a separate draft from the certificate compression. Certificate compression could be made into an extension that is usable in standard TLS. cTLS ca

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-20 Thread Martin Thomson
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, at 13:36, Sean Turner wrote: > [...] if you believe that the TLS WG should not adopt this as a > WG item, then please let the chairs know by posting a message to the > TLS list by 2359 UTC 13 December 2019 (and say why). I know you want dissent, but I thought I would instea

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-20 Thread Valery Smyslov
Hi, I think it's a good starting point. I support adoption. Regards, Valery. > At IETF 105, ekr presented cTLS (Compact TLS) [0][1][2] to both the TLS WG > and the LAKE BOF, which is now a chartered WG [3]. After some discussions, > the ADs suggested [4] that the TLS WG consider whether this dr

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls

2019-11-20 Thread Eric Rescorla
I support adoption. On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 9:36 PM Sean Turner wrote: > At IETF 105, ekr presented cTLS (Compact TLS) [0][1][2] to both the TLS WG > and the LAKE BOF, which is now a chartered WG [3]. After some discussions, > the ADs suggested [4] that the TLS WG consider whether this draft be