Re: [TLS] Security of using same cert for TLS client and server

2023-01-28 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 03:03:54PM +0200, Ilari Liusvaara wrote: > On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 08:35:40AM +, John Mattsson wrote: > > Thanks Ilari for that very fast and detailed answer. I a made a PR to > > RFC8446bis to suggest adding “A node MAY use the same certificate as > > both server and c

Re: [TLS] Security of using same cert for TLS client and server

2023-01-28 Thread Ilari Liusvaara
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 08:35:40AM +, John Mattsson wrote: > Thanks Ilari for that very fast and detailed answer. I a made a PR to > RFC8446bis to suggest adding “A node MAY use the same certificate as > both server and client certificate.”, I don’t know if there should be > more restrictions.

Re: [TLS] Security of using same cert for TLS client and server

2023-01-28 Thread John Mattsson
the application layer where TLS is used for several application layer protocols. Cheers, John From: TLS on behalf of Ilari Liusvaara Date: Friday, 27 January 2023 at 19:53 To: tls@ietf.org Subject: Re: [TLS] Security of using same cert for TLS client and server On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 06:01

Re: [TLS] Security of using same cert for TLS client and server

2023-01-27 Thread Ilari Liusvaara
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 06:01:04PM +, John Mattsson wrote: > Hi, > > - Using the same signature key or PSK for TLS and another protocol is > obviously unsecure in the worst case. But probably practically > secure in many cases even if nobody has proved it. Well, looking at the signatures:

[TLS] Security of using same cert for TLS client and server

2023-01-27 Thread John Mattsson
Hi, TLS WG went through a lot of work (RFC 9258) to make sure that PSKs only be used with a single hash function. But as far as I can see the RFC8446(bis) does not say anything about: * Using the same cert for TLS client and TLS server * Using the same public key cert for TLS and anoth