Re: [TLS] Confirming consensus: TLS1.3->TLS*

2016-11-21 Thread =JeffH
In the room last week, I hummed for "TLS 4". that said, I overall agree with Andrei's sentiment.. > I'm voting in favor of any re-branding of TLS 1.3 where the > protocol name remains "TLS" and major version becomes > 1. HTH, =JeffH

Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 -> TLS 2.0?

2016-08-31 Thread =JeffH
+10k Rich Salz responded: > DKG proposed: >> https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters/tls-parameters.xhtml >> doesn't have a "TLS version" registry. Would it be simpler to have IANA >> create that and just populate it with: >> >>Value | Description | Reference >>--+---

[TLS] IETF TLS WG

2016-02-24 Thread =JeffH
t; tls-unique. The 1.3 key schedule appears to be under discussion, so > things might change. Thanks Andrei, the above confirms my own assessment/suspicions. =JeffH > -Original Message- > From: TLS [mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of =JeffH > Sent: Tuesday, February 23,

Re: [TLS] TRON notes?

2016-02-23 Thread =JeffH
Stephen replied: > On 23/02/16 23:29, =JeffH wrote: >> is anyone writing up some notes from TRON >> <https://www.internetsociety.org/events/ndss-symposium-2016/tls-13-ready-or-not-tron-workshop-programme> >> to share here on the list? >> >> especially wr

Re: [TLS] RFC5705 Keying Material Exporters for TLS -- not applicable to TLS 1.3 ?

2016-02-23 Thread =JeffH
Hi Ilari, Ilari replied on Wed, 17 Feb 2016: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:25:12AM -0800, =JeffH wrote: >> Hi, >> >> RFC5705 section 4 "Exporter Definition" [1] states.. >> >>The exporter takes three input values: >> >>o a disambigua

[TLS] TRON notes?

2016-02-23 Thread =JeffH
is anyone writing up some notes from TRON <https://www.internetsociety.org/events/ndss-symposium-2016/tls-13-ready-or-not-tron-workshop-programme> to share here on the list? especially wrt the "What do we know and where are we going?" topic :) inquiring minds and all

[TLS] -tls13-11: client ephemeral, server ephemeral, static secret, ephemeral secret ?

2016-02-17 Thread =JeffH
hemeral Secret, but I am not able discern such a definition (unlike the clear definitions for xSS, xES, etc in S 7.1). thanks, =JeffH ___ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls

[TLS] RFC5705 Keying Material Exporters for TLS -- not applicable to TLS 1.3 ?

2016-02-17 Thread =JeffH
exporter master secret", handshake_hash, L) [...] ..i.e., does the above step "8." effectively define the TLS 1.3 keying material exporter? thanks, =JeffH [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5705#section-4 [2] https://tools.ietf.or

[TLS] -tls13-11: "directional keys" ?

2016-02-17 Thread =JeffH
lient Write Key | "client write key" | | || | Server Write Key | "server write key" | [...] +--++ thx, =JeffH [1] https://

Re: [TLS] Length of a variable-length vector: Could it be an odd multiple?

2016-01-22 Thread =JeffH
ON Fri, 22 Jan 2016 15:53:27 Benjamin Kaduk noted: > On 01/22/2016 03:26 PM, =JeffH wrote: > > On 01/22/2016 12:29 PM, =JeffH wrote: > >> [ fixed pitch font advised here ] > > > > the below is corrected to use "byte count" rather than "in

Re: [TLS] Length of a variable-length vector: Could it be an odd multiple?

2016-01-22 Thread =JeffH
On 01/22/2016 12:29 PM, =JeffH wrote: [ fixed pitch font advised here ] the below is corrected to use "byte count" rather than "index" or "indicies" (and to ditch the tabs).. > On 01/22/2016 09:42 AM, =JeffH wrote: > > [ resending from different

Re: [TLS] Length of a variable-length vector: Could it be an odd multiple?

2016-01-22 Thread =JeffH
[ fixed pitch font advised here ] > On 01/22/2016 09:42 AM, =JeffH wrote: > > [ resending from different account - my work addr ends up in spam > > bucket for many it seems ] > > > > On 1/20/16, 11:01 AM, "Benjamin Kaduk" wrote: > > >On 01/20/2016 1

[TLS] Length of a variable-length vector: zero-length case

2016-01-22 Thread =JeffH
the 2-byte length field, with length value zero, and a zero-length (ie, absent, empty) vector content, correct ? thanks, =JeffH ___ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls

Re: [TLS] Length of a variable-length vector: Could it be an odd multiple?

2016-01-22 Thread =JeffH
eld followed by 128 bytes of data). > >Wouldn't the ceiling more properly be 2^16-4 in that case? hm, I'm not sure -- what would be the rationale? The exact multiple criteria? but 2^16 / 32 = 2048 while (2^16-4) / 32 = 2047.875 i do have further questions regarding variable-length vectors, and how they are specified, that subsequent discussion will hopefully tease out. thanks, =JeffH ___ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls