[TLS]I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-tls13-pkcs1-01.txt

2024-05-23 Thread internet-drafts
Internet-Draft draft-ietf-tls-tls13-pkcs1-01.txt is now available. It is a work item of the Transport Layer Security (TLS) WG of the IETF. Title: Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 codepoints for TLS 1.3 Authors: David Benjamin Andrei Popov Name:draft-ietf-tls-tls13-pkcs1-01.txt

[TLS]Re: Dnsdir early review of draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-01

2024-05-23 Thread Erik Nygren
Submitted new revision: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-02 Only change is adding the text to Security Considerations as discussed above. Erik On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 9:14 AM Sean Turner wrote: > Ted & ErikN, > > So it looks like ErikN submitted the following

[TLS]I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-02.txt

2024-05-23 Thread internet-drafts
Internet-Draft draft-ietf-tls-svcb-ech-02.txt is now available. It is a work item of the Transport Layer Security (TLS) WG of the IETF. Title: Bootstrapping TLS Encrypted ClientHello with DNS Service Bindings Authors: Ben Schwartz Mike Bishop Erik Nygren Name:

[TLS]Re: WG Adoption for TLS Trust Expressions

2024-05-23 Thread Ryan Hurst
I am joining this thread a bit late but have been following the discussion. I want to express my support for Trust Expressions and comment on a few points that have been made. First, the reality is that websites already have to support multiple certificates to accommodate both ECC and RSA. This is

[TLS]Re: WG Adoption for TLS Trust Expressions

2024-05-23 Thread Watson Ladd
On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 12:42 PM David Benjamin wrote: > > Of course, whether this property (whether servers can usefully pre-deploy > not-yet-added trust anchors), which trust expressions does not have, even > matters boils to whether a root program would misinterpret availability in > server

[TLS]Re: WG Adoption for TLS Trust Expressions

2024-05-23 Thread Sean Turner
Hi! Let’s clam it down some in this thread. Just a gentle reminder to keep it professional. Thanks, spt ___ TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to tls-le...@ietf.org

[TLS]Re: WG Adoption for TLS Trust Expressions

2024-05-23 Thread David Benjamin
On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 11:09 AM Dennis Jackson wrote > > > I think we have to agree that Trust Expressions enables websites to > adopt new CA chains regardless of client trust and even builds a > centralized mechanism for doing so. It is a core feature of the design. > > No one has to agree to t

[TLS]Re: WG Adoption for TLS Trust Expressions

2024-05-23 Thread Dennis Jackson
Hi David, On 23/05/2024 14:07, David Adrian wrote: There is certainly a discussion to be had about how well Trust Expressions solves problems experienced by the HTTPS ecosystem and the Web PKI today. However, that requires moving past repeated, unsubstantiated claims about how Trust Expression

[TLS]Re: WG Adoption for TLS Trust Expressions

2024-05-23 Thread David Adrian
Hi Dennis, There is certainly a discussion to be had about how well Trust Expressions solves problems experienced by the HTTPS ecosystem and the Web PKI today. However, that requires moving past repeated, unsubstantiated claims about how Trust Expressions enables government surveillance, something

[TLS]Re: WG Adoption for TLS Trust Expressions

2024-05-23 Thread Dennis Jackson
Hi Nick, I think the issues around risk have a great deal of nuance that you're not appreciating, but which I've tried to lay out below. I appreciate that rational reasonable people can absolutely disagree on how they weigh up these risks, but I think we have to agree that Trust Expressions e