Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-ticketrequests

2020-01-22 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:33:48PM -0600, Nico Williams wrote: > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 05:12:34PM -0800, Watson Ladd wrote: > > > Now the first alternative would be infeasible to adopt because it would > > > require new OpenSSL callback APIs, and anyways would be a more invasive > > > change to T

Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-ticketrequests

2020-01-22 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 05:12:34PM -0800, Watson Ladd wrote: > > Now the first alternative would be infeasible to adopt because it would > > require new OpenSSL callback APIs, and anyways would be a more invasive > > change to TLS than the ticketrequest extension makes. > > Nothing says you have t

Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-ticketrequests

2020-01-22 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 05:12:34PM -0800, Watson Ladd wrote: > > - either the TLS server says "here's a ticket and you MUST or MAY > >replace the one you already had" > > > >or > > > > - the TLS client gets to ask for no unnecessary new tickets > > > > Now the first alternative would be

Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-ticketrequests

2020-01-22 Thread Watson Ladd
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 4:56 PM Nico Williams wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 06:19:23PM +, Salz, Rich wrote: > > Viktor and I spoke in more detail. The use-case he brings up makes > > more sense to me now. The key observation is that this is not about a > > I also spoke to Viktor, and he

Re: [TLS] WGLC for draft-ietf-tls-ticketrequests

2020-01-22 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 06:19:23PM +, Salz, Rich wrote: > Viktor and I spoke in more detail. The use-case he brings up makes > more sense to me now. The key observation is that this is not about a I also spoke to Viktor, and he explained the motivation in detail. He really should have done s

Re: [TLS] External PSK design team // Scope for "Low-entropy PSK" applications

2020-01-22 Thread Björn Haase
Thank's for the clearification. Having a document clearly specifying how external PSK could be securely used is a good idea. I did not aim at blocking useful work with new features! The root of my question and my motivation is, that just today, I have received a draft of an industrial protocol s

Re: [TLS] External PSK design team // Scope for "Low-entropy PSK" applications

2020-01-22 Thread Sean Turner
Hit Björn, This DT grew out of discussions related to draft-ietf-tls-external-psk-importer. Ben (our AD) suggested that we start a DT to have a standalone document to describe considerations for how to USE the PSKs to avoid various attacks. The chairs would prefer to keep this DT focused on

[TLS] code point assignments for draft-ietf-tls-subcerts

2020-01-22 Thread Sean Turner
Hi! The chairs want to determine whether we should ask for the assignments requested in draft-ietf-tls-subcerts [0][1]. We believe the draft is stable enough and that there is interest from multiple implementers. Please let the WG know by 2359 UTC 05 February 2020 whether you disagree with th

[TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-md5-sha1-deprecate-02.txt

2020-01-22 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Transport Layer Security WG of the IETF. Title : Deprecating MD5 and SHA-1 signature hashes in TLS 1.2 Authors : Loganaden Velvindron