Re: Testing request: gdm-on-Wayland on hybrid graphics laptops (esp. Macbooks)

2015-05-14 Thread Richard Ryniker
Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-22-TC3.iso installed without problems using an external USB drive on my Macbook Pro with 15-inch Retina Display. I logged on using GNOME with Wayland for the user created during installation - no problem. That said, the system appears fragile, and network configura

Re: Alpha Criterion Discussion: Desktop Backgrounds

2015-08-07 Thread Richard Ryniker
"Auto Freeze Exeception" seems too complicated an answer to this question. Either continue to call new background a blocker, or decide it is desirable but not a blocking issue. If lovely new art is not available, some generic "Fnn" background could be used then replaced by an update after release

Re: [Test-Announce] naming schemes

2014-09-08 Thread Richard Ryniker
>a naming scheme that doesn't suck. Please consider it desirable to implement a scheme with file names that, in lexical order, list oldest version first (or last). Newest version somewhere in the middle is a bad design. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://ad

Re: i845G - X locks up machine

2014-10-13 Thread Richard Ryniker
Might this be an effect caused by removal of an old graphics driver? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-May/199459.html -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Weird effect of mount command in F23

2015-10-20 Thread Richard Ryniker
I suspect you suffer from software that wants to help you and "Do the right thing." If you try to mount a device with no media, mount might simply fail (no media present). Instead, at least for optical drives, it presumes the desired media might be available in the tray and requests the device to

Re: Weird effect of mount command in F23

2015-10-20 Thread Richard Ryniker
>> I do not like to sacrifice well-defined, predictable behavior for >> convenience > >Convenience is what users need! > >> but others may argue this default behavior serves the >> greater good. > >What is the *greater good*? I think the perceived "good" is that users can load a disk and have a us

Re: comment to F23 Final RC10 - still card reader problem

2015-10-31 Thread Richard Ryniker
I think you may be the victim of GNOME's "Do what you maybe probably want." attitude. This is something you might be able to configure to your taste, given sufficient knowledge about what specifications to change. I have a Lenovo machine with a Realtec card reader: [ryniker@lenovo ~]$ lspci | gr

Re: Grub Error in F23 Release? Grub stops in OS selection for Windows for ever.

2015-11-05 Thread Richard Ryniker
When you change from the GRUB default boot item, the timer stops and no default boot occurs. You must use a key to tell GRUB to boot the current selection. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: criterion proposal: upgrading across 2 releases

2015-11-23 Thread Richard Ryniker
I believe a failure to upgrade from N-2 to N should not block the N release. The reason is limited resources, both for tests and for changes to fix problems. These resources are more valuable applied to the N release than to something two releases in the past. If someone wants to test a release-

Re: criterion proposal: upgrading across 2 releases

2015-11-24 Thread Richard Ryniker
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 07:52:47 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I've upgraded several family members directly from Fedora 21 to Fedora 23 > in the last week with no issues whatsoever (of course, I also curate > their repository selection, so they don't end up with incompatible > packages). Aye, th

Re: criterion proposal: upgrading across 2 releases

2015-11-24 Thread Richard Ryniker
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 10:46:55 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > We have never really gone to any lengths to test or support N-1 upgrades > with 3rd party repositories or non-repo software either. That's a > different question. >From a user's perspective, the value of system-upgrade depends on its a

Re: criterion proposal: upgrading across 2 releases

2015-11-25 Thread Richard Ryniker
System-upgrade across two releases raises an interesting End-of-Life policy issue. If system-upgrade from N-2 to N is so important it will block release of N until it works, how do we explain why it is no longer important after four weeks when N-2 reaches End of Life? Four weeks is little time to

Re: criterion proposal: upgrading across 2 releases

2015-11-25 Thread Richard Ryniker
>It's not like dnf-system-upgrade would magically stop working when N-2 >reaches EOL, so honestly, overall, I just don't really see the problem >you're describing Like most of Fedora, dnf-system-upgrade gets limited testing before release. When N is released, a large number of users who did not i

Re: criterion proposal: upgrading across 2 releases

2015-11-25 Thread Richard Ryniker
>A month is a pretty long time in Fedora development True, but a month is only available if the problem is reported on day 1. If it takes a week or two for a user to report a problem, that interval lessens the remaining time to EOL. On the other hand, there is no prohibition against a fix after E

Re: Criterion revision proposal: KDE default applications

2013-12-14 Thread Richard Ryniker
The defining characteristic of the Live images is that they run without installation on a user's disks. Beyond that, they have the capability to install a minimal Fedora system to a local disk. Once the size limit for a live image is increased beyond the capacity of a CD (or other common media),

Re: Criterion revision proposal: KDE default applications

2013-12-14 Thread Richard Ryniker
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, at 11:25:40 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: One thing they've floated as an idea is to have a separate 'installation environment' you could boot into from the live images - so you could either boot into 'try it out' live mode, or 'install it' installer mode, but not

Re: Criterion revision proposal: KDE default applications

2013-12-15 Thread Richard Ryniker
>With five Test Managers, become a Test Executive... Sorry, Adam, just an attempt to give you opportunity to smile. I am serious about the scalability issue, however. As you indicated, the typical FOSS activity does not map readily into a classic business hierarchical organization chart. I do n

Re: Criterion revision proposal: KDE default applications

2013-12-20 Thread Richard Ryniker
Kamil Paral wrote on Fri, 20 Dec 2013 05:00:24 -0500 >The bandwidth problem should be solved by a simple program: >a. you run it on computer A (lacking bandwidth) - it gathers the list of >installed packages and exports a file >b. then you run it on computer B (good bandwidth) - feed it the file

Re: xserver fails to resume from suspend (f20)

2013-12-20 Thread Richard Ryniker
>So strange as it may seem - it appears that it has to be shut for more than a >short time to fail. Might it be a hibernation issue? After some period of time, perhaps your machine wants to move from suspend to hibernate. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https:/

Re: swap partition problems - Re: [Bug 1006304] BootLoaderError: failed to set new efi boot target

2014-01-08 Thread Richard Ryniker
> And no manpage for blkid. There is a man page for blkid. It is part of: util-linux-2.24-2.fc20.x86_64 If the man page is missing, perhaps other missing pieces contribute to the problem. For example, swapon is also in util-linux. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: Leaving the project

2014-05-20 Thread Richard Ryniker
Thank you for years of work to improve Fedora. All Fedora users benefit to some extent from your efforts. >as WG's slowy turn into tiny little empires fighting amongst themselves >for components directions and maintenance... Fedora (and linux in general) is growing larger. As this happens, mana

Re: Proposed generic release criterion: service manipulation

2014-07-07 Thread Richard Ryniker
> It must be possible to start, stop, enable and disable system > services using the initialization framework's standard commands. This sounds like any service that fails (will not start, will not stop...) will block a release. Should there be a distinction between "critical" services that must w

Re: again F25 on USB Flash medium - with legacy ok - only problem with EFI -Anaconda

2016-10-18 Thread Richard Ryniker
>install F25 Beta in legacy mode on an 64GB flash medium. And surprise it >works. I think this suggests there is some configuration or BIOS problem with EFI and USB in your machine. Both Chris Murphy and I performed successful EFI installations, he with Apple and I with Samsung hardware. It may

Re: fedora-bookmarks prevents installation of curent updates in F24

2016-06-07 Thread Richard Ryniker
The following worked for me: dnf erase astronomy-bookmarks (This also erased firefox.) dnf upgrade dnf install firefox (This also installed astronomy-bookmarks) -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/li

Re: 'dnf system-upgrade reboot' doesn't do anything

2016-09-01 Thread Richard Ryniker
I am unhappy with the suggestion that the semantics of kernel parameters may depend on some notion about how "temporary" they are. If a kernel parameter is specified, it is present; if not specified, it is absent. It is proper to design parameter syntax and default values to favor common usage.

Re: 'dnf system-upgrade reboot' doesn't do anything

2016-09-03 Thread Richard Ryniker
I seem to have touched a sore spot on Mr. Murphy, and apologize if I have unintentionally irritated him. If he is the designer of the offline update mechanism, and I correctly perceive the implications of his explanation, then I do scold him for failure to mitigate the damage that might occur to a

25_Alpha-2 installation to VM: boot loader install failed

2016-09-14 Thread Richard Ryniker
The target VM has two virtual IDE drives, sda (8 GB) for / and sdb (0.5GB) for /boot. Installation proceded normally until time to install the bootloader, which failed. Pop-up window said bootloader installation failed, and I chose to continue anyway in order to acquire as much log information as

Re: Fedora on usb connected media

2016-09-30 Thread Richard Ryniker
Works for me. I used a Samsung 940X laptop and a Sandisk 80GB USB3 external SSD. This is a UEFI machine, and I installed using manual partitioning to re-use partitions on the external device, which contained an old Fedora 23 system. My purpose here was to preserve an encrypted /home partition. /

Re: Fedora on usb connected media

2016-10-01 Thread Richard Ryniker
Might this be a clue (from your anaconda log)? 13:10:26,938 INFO anaconda: Running post-installation scripts 13:10:26,938 INFO anaconda: Running kickstart %%post script(s) 13:10:29,210 ERR anaconda: Error code 1 running the kickstart script at line 33 13:10:29,210 INFO anaconda: All kicks

Re: Installation validation test change proposal: merge USB tests into 'default boot and install', add more environment columns

2016-10-11 Thread Richard Ryniker
>an optical specific Live Workstation spin Sounds like the proper category: will not block a regular Fedora release, will not consume test resources for primary Fedora deliverables, and will provide a focus for those with some stake in optical media. While lack of community to support an "optical

Re: audio skipping/pure sound quality

2011-01-18 Thread Richard Ryniker
I have experienced effects like those you described when Pulseaudio (or perhaps something else in the audio-processing chain) must do sample-rate conversion, such as from 44.1 KHz to 48KHz, to drive my USB speakers. Sox has been an effective solution for me. Try "play" (a link to sox that denotes

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-05 Thread Richard Ryniker
>On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 10:49 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > >> Indeed ... there is something simplistically elegant about: >> >> 3 >> vs >> multi-user.target > >Or, you could look upon it as 'utterly cryptic'. At least >multi-user.target takes a shot at explaining itself. 3...3, well, n

Re: since last update system does not boot any more

2011-04-13 Thread Richard Ryniker
Al Dunsmuir wrote on Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:36:53 -0400: >I think these [file names such as "multi-user.target"] should be >viewed more as keywords, or reserved phrases >and not subject to translation. > >This is similar to a C program, where one has 3 cases: >- Comments and literal string can have

Re: EFI install (F15 beta rc2)

2011-04-17 Thread Richard Ryniker
>Partition table invalid or corrupt. I saw this message from GRUB when I re-used a disk that had been part of a software RAID array for a Fedora installation. I do not recall now whether fdisk or the Fedora installer wrote a new partition table, but there were vestiges of the RAID format left on

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

2011-05-14 Thread Richard Ryniker
Network configuration... Is it too obvious to suggest the new, incomplete tool have an "advanced configuration" item that invokes the older, but more complete and mature, tool to handle the less common cases? No network configuration tool is likely to handle every conceivable case. When a new too

F15RC3 "Upgrade" installation: ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve:

2011-05-16 Thread Richard Ryniker
I normally eschew "Upgrade" installation, because the result can mix old and new files in ways that too often lead to mysterious problems, sometimes months later. There be rocks in the upgrade waters! Yesterday I inadvertently failed to check "New install" when using the F15RC3 DVD, and thus laun

libvirtd Unable to create cgroup

2011-05-18 Thread Richard Ryniker
F15 RC3 installed without any obvious problems. Failure during attempt to create a virtual machine. [root@hp ryniker]# virt-install --prompt What is the name of your virtual machine? MPLAB How much RAM should be allocated (in megabytes)? 4096 What would you like to use as the disk (file path)?

Re: Security release criterion proposal

2011-05-19 Thread Richard Ryniker
>if a remote root hole is found 2 days after release, what do we do? >(the current answer is nothing) One can suppose a re-spin is possible, given sufficient motivation. There already exists some informal respin activity. For example, see: http://jbwillia.fedorapeople.org/ -- test mailing li

Re: Heads up - Anaconda 22.17 will enforce 'good' passwords

2015-01-28 Thread Richard Ryniker
>Super simple passwords will no longer be allowed... increased security is >worth it. No, you just made installation more bothersome - the user will then have to set the passwords he wants after installation is complete. It is good to warn about a weak password, but I feel I know better than you

Re: Heads up - Anaconda 22.17 will enforce 'good' passwords

2015-01-31 Thread Richard Ryniker
Recapitiulation: A security problem was recognized because the ssh daemon is enabled by default on Fedora systems: with a weak root password, a remote attacker might easily obtain unlimited access. The direct solution would seem to be a change to the ssh daemon to prohibit root login in its defa

Re: Heads up - Anaconda 22.17 will enforce 'good' passwords

2015-02-01 Thread Richard Ryniker
>we also have no data about the prevalence of weak passwords or attacks >on default-configured Fedora systems On my firewall system, /var/log/secure is larger than 300 megabytes (less than one month of data), most of it reports of failed login attempts to root. I am very careful about passwords o

Re: Fedora 22 Workstation Beta Release Candidate 1

2015-04-09 Thread Richard Ryniker
Works OK on my Macbook Pro: i7-4850HQ processor with Intel Iris Pro Graphics 5200 plus Nvidia GT-750M graphics processor. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: why are so much gdm processes are running?

2015-04-11 Thread Richard Ryniker
It is interesting to note a difference from F21, where the login processes are "true" daemons in the sense they have no controlling terminal. Now, for example, joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de reports: ps -u gdm PID TTY TIME CMD 1243 ?00:00:00 systemd 1244 ?00:00:00 (sd

Re: How to install Gnome Desktop on F21 Server ?

2015-04-14 Thread Richard Ryniker
Try: yum grouplist hidden ids -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

F22 MacBook Pro woe

2015-04-16 Thread Richard Ryniker
I was pleased to see Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-22_Beta-2 boot on my Apple MacBook Pro 15" with retina display. "Install to disk" completed after some fragility relating to my USB flash drive installation target. Wrote zeros to the first MByte of the flash drive, then Fedora would partition,

Re: F22 MacBook Pro woe

2015-04-16 Thread Richard Ryniker
F10 works just fine to boot an edited item. Thank you, Adam. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

2011-05-30 Thread Richard Ryniker
>I don't understand why Fedora maintainers decide to replace functional >software by software that lacks many essential features ... I have no direct connection to Fedora decision-makers, but I doubt this is something they "decide" to do. It happens because Fedora seeks to package very recent ver

Re: lan network mapping...

2011-07-15 Thread Richard Ryniker
Try a broadcast ping, and see who responds. One of the responses from an address you do not recognize as something else may be your print server. Example: # ping -b -I eth0 192.168.100.255 WARNING: pinging broadcast address PING 192.168.100.255 (192.168.100.255) from 192.168.100.32 eth0: 56(84)

Re: Any hope for system-config-services ?

2011-07-21 Thread Richard Ryniker
It would be more accurate to say "The current Fedora releases are not typically used as servers." I expect many are like me and use an older Fedora release on servers: F9 in my case, because it does its job well and any limitations do not impair its function. It seems perfectly reasonable to exp

Re: Post-TC1 strategizin'

2011-08-04 Thread Richard Ryniker
On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:11:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >On 08/04/2011 06:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> I thought it'd be a good idea to take a step back and plan a strategy >> for post-Alpha TC1. >> >> We're in trouble for Alpha; we're a long way behind schedule, and we >> have a lot of block

Re: gnome-shell-extensions-alternative-status-menu installed by default?

2011-08-08 Thread Richard Ryniker
Rahul Sundaram gmail.com> writes: > I don't think Fedora should be installing extensions by default. I side with Rahul Sundaram. The default configuration should follow upstream choices as much as possible. If alternative choices are useful for a significant population of Fedora users, these s

Re: Draft 'install alongside Windows' test case

2011-09-01 Thread Richard Ryniker
>Well, no version of Windows yet sets up a GPT disk label, and anaconda >is supposed to leave existing MSDOS disk labels around. I configured Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit to use several disks in a software RAID arrangement a year or two past. A BIOS update to this HP system subsequently killed W

Re: grub2 confusion

2011-10-12 Thread Richard Ryniker
Adam Williamson wrote on Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:00:03 -0700: >i.e. if you decide to maintain your config by hand then you have to try >and stop your distro doing it for you, and that's outside of the >distro's scope of support. I have more than 150 entries in /etc/alternatives that represent explici

Re: mime types...

2011-10-17 Thread Richard Ryniker
On Sun, 2011-10-16 at 21:46 -0700, Rob Healey wrote: > So when working with python files, why is there no specific mime type for > it? Basically, because there is no need to tell the recipient of a Python file how to specially format or interpret it. It is simply one of a large set of text files.

Re: release note suggestion: UID Range Change

2011-11-04 Thread Richard Ryniker
>users can renumber user files by: > (1) chown --from OLD_OWNER:OLD_GROUP NEW_OWNER:NEW_GROUP / I think a --recursive option may be needed in the chown command. There are thorns in these bushes. It is not only user and group ids in new systems that must change: this change will upset permissi

Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module"

2011-11-10 Thread Richard Ryniker
This is bug 747449, presumably just a case of a missing dependency. I bumped into it when I invoked system-config-users. Because multiple applications fail, and therefore can inflict pain on many users, does it make sense to add something to "Common Bugs"? The work-around (install PackageKit-gt

Re: Proposal: stop holding composes for preupgrade bugs at Alpha and Beta phases

2012-04-10 Thread Richard Ryniker
>The thread for longer files is more likely to be in the middle of a >transfer, and thus capable of boosting its throughput, while the other >thread suffers low throughput due to starting or stopping the transfer of >an individual file. Maybe. Certainly "The thread for longer files is more likely

Re: No way to add a new app launcher from Gnome 3.x GUI?

2012-04-18 Thread Richard Ryniker
>But no, right clicking on empty space doesn't do diddly squat in the >Gnome 3 Applications screen. I do not think a click on nothing is persuasively intuative as a way to create an application launcher. Who wants diddly squats littering the screen, anyway? For programs that can be found through

Re: automatically mounting physically attached media (was Re: Move from /media to /run/media/$USER)

2012-04-18 Thread Richard Ryniker
>If I plug it in while I'm logged in, it shows up. I log out and log back in, >and it still shows up. >If I reboot, plug it in during GDM, and then log in... it shows up. Under >what circumstance does it not show up for you? If your USB stick is plugged in before you boot your system, where does

Re: update-mime-database issue

2012-05-15 Thread Richard Ryniker
> Unknown media type in type 'all/all' Not a new phenomenon. I see this in my F17 system, but also in F14... even in F8, so it has been around for a long time. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: will F18 allow simultaneous installation of more than one desktop?

2012-07-09 Thread Richard Ryniker
>to prevent the user doing something silly like trying to install GNOME >but forgetting the X server and fonts. I think the Package Manager copes with this very well, especially when the installation source is a release DVD. Unlike the network repositories, which can become inconsistant as indivi

Re: Release criterion proposal: upgrade methods

2012-09-24 Thread Richard Ryniker
>The installer must be able to successfully complete an upgrade >installation from a clean, fully updated default installation (from any >official install medium) of the previous stable Fedora release via any >officially supported upgrade mechanism. The upgraded system must meet >all release criter

Re: Release criterion proposal: upgrade methods

2012-09-24 Thread Richard Ryniker
>I think we could link to >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading to define >'supported/recommendation upgrade mechanism' OK, but to illustrate the problem with indirect references: the "Upgrading" page you cite above says to read http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Installati

Re: Release criterion proposal: upgrade methods

2012-09-24 Thread Richard Ryniker
You have convinced me, Adam. How much does it contribute to release quality if excellent test criteria are perfectly validated, but the documentation the end-user reads says Fedora does something different? To that user, what he sees is clearly a fault. QA may not be explicitly requested to vet e

Re: Release criterion proposal: upgrade methods

2012-09-25 Thread Richard Ryniker
"Upgrade" installation is a bizarre beast, because the result is not well defined. Yes, a newer set of packages is installed, but a new install does that. The reason "upgrade" is so seductive is the notion all one's configuration and personalization is carried into the upgraded system, whereas a

Re: Upstream first? [Was: Re: The future of how to debug pages]

2012-09-26 Thread Richard Ryniker
On 09/26/2012 10:37 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: > I personally split maintainers in the distribution into three > categories. > > 1. Packager > > 2, Maintainer > > 3. Upstream maintainer Is this an argument for an additional Fedora package class? At present, it seems there are two well-defined types:

Re: F18 at-spi* deps

2012-10-26 Thread Richard Ryniker
Frank Murphy wrote on Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:33:25 +0100: >So you agree, it's unneccessary. >For me to need at-spi*. Point made. I think the point was at-spi is part of GTK, but this part is not something it is reasonable to package separately, such as a language package or some esoteric locale. T

Re: TC7 bootloader installation

2012-11-03 Thread Richard Ryniker
>we should make this possible via a command line parameter rather than a UI >option; it's an 'advanced' option that's only of use to multiboot >pokemoners (you know...gotta catch 'em all) and is a 'dangerous' option >for anyone who doesn't understand it - if you pick it when you don't know >what yo

Re: Reclaim disk space doesn't reuse existing swap, should it?

2012-12-07 Thread Richard Ryniker
Probably not. There are too many possibilities to make reasonable any default except "do what the user explicitly says is desired". The usual problems are hot-swap devices (USB, ESATA, etc.) that may be present during installation but not later, and swap spaces intended for other operating system

Re: Reclaim disk space doesn't reuse existing swap, should it?

2012-12-07 Thread Richard Ryniker
John Reiser wrote on Fri, 07 Dec 2012 07:30:50 -0800 >NO! NO! NO! Do NOT format any partition, including swap partitions, >except when explicitly requested. I want to share _some_ swap partitions, >but running mkswap destroys the UUID and/or label which other /etc/fstab >depend on. I still thi

Re: Anaconda crashes trying to install Inkscape

2012-12-11 Thread Richard Ryniker
Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote on Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:15:57 +0100 >Maybe there should be two groups of packages: important (core or >whatever) that must be installed and other (not important) that might >fail to install? I think it better to start over with a "minimal install" (where all "important"

dracut whines...

2012-12-11 Thread Richard Ryniker
F18 TC1 x86-64 install DVD displays some complaints (the following indented lines appeared on the console, but I copied them later from /var/log/boot.log): [ OK ] Started Show Plymouth Boot Screen. [ OK ] Reached target Basic System. dracut-pre-pivot[457]: cp: cann

Re: dracut whines...

2012-12-12 Thread Richard Ryniker
It has been reported... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=849476 -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Configure Mount Point doesn't appear to work

2012-12-20 Thread Richard Ryniker
>> Swap is a bit odd. > >I don't see it as being any more or less odd than any other mount point. It's >either manual partitioning or not. Swap is indeed odd. An unusual swap partition on an F18 target installation disk can scuttle anaconda... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=88624

Re: F18 partitioning LVM Question....

2012-12-29 Thread Richard Ryniker
>How does having two PVs on the same spindle increase latency? Longer seeks - from one PV to the other - instead of two writes into the same PV. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Help needed in F18: firefox disappears from the gnome3 favorites bar each time when logging out

2012-12-29 Thread Richard Ryniker
I do not see this behavior; F18 updated to current level (without updates-testing). The firefox icon remains in my Favorites bar through logout-login, and through reboot. Default Gnome desktop. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mai

Re: F18 partitioning LVM Question....

2012-12-30 Thread Richard Ryniker
True, a usage scenario can often be devised to manifest the worst aspects of any allocation scheme. There are many other factors that can have so much influence that I suspect the number of partitions and volume groups may have little to do with actual performance. Disk device caching and operati

Re: Dealing with critical bugs in final releases

2013-04-21 Thread Richard Ryniker
I think new builds is a bad idea, a response to a worst-case event that hopefully never happens. If the quality assurance process that generated multiple alpha, beta, and release candidate builds has failed, another try to fix one more bug will have less complete testing: it is too likely to add n

Re: su starts behaving oddly sometimes on F19

2013-05-17 Thread Richard Ryniker
Does SELinux affect the problem? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Why was a kernel-2.6.34 pushed to updates that had un-addressed bugs.

2010-09-05 Thread Richard Ryniker
Bill Davidsen wrote: >If they don't have time to look at everything, then maybe they should stop >shipping kernels they haven't looked at! Really, people who needed 2.6.34 >could >pull it from updates-untested and the rest of us could have working systems. > >Back in the FC3-4-5-6 days stuff r

Re: Why was a kernel-2.6.34 pushed to updates that had un-addressed bugs.

2010-09-06 Thread Richard Ryniker
>In my case (F13, x86_64 on a Lenovo X200) the .34 kernel made suspend fail. >On laptops I think working suspend/resume should be blocker for release. It >worked before, hence it is a regression. F13 was released with a .33 kernel, therefore the question of blocking the F13 release for this reas

Re: Not too impressed with the quality of F14 at this time

2010-09-14 Thread Richard Ryniker
> > I don't think GUI apps should be logging seemingly alarming messages > > like this to stdout if they aren't actually a problem. If the > > possibility that the referenced shared library isn't there is expected > > and normal, then attempts to load it should fail silently. > > Well, that's argu

Re: heads-up: upstart reversion coming soon

2010-09-15 Thread Richard Ryniker
> since the current justification for having stable releases at all > is 'to handle upgrade cases we can't handle with yum' What about installation from media such as DVD for users who cannot reasonably access more than a gigabyte of updates from the Net? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedorapro

Re: F14 Beta RC2 comments

2010-09-19 Thread Richard Ryniker
> In RC1 the anaconda has eliminated the screen to select where to put the > boot loader, I had the opportunity to make a choice. Anaconda presented a two-panel display that listed the drives it found on the left panel, and a convenient mechanism to select which drives I wanted to use for install

system-config-network F14Beta x86_64

2010-09-20 Thread Richard Ryniker
Is this working-as-designed? Other than these messages, system-config-network worked as expected. [r...@vista ryniker]# system-config-network (system-config-network-gui:24283): Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: faile

Re: system-config-network F14Beta x86_64

2010-09-20 Thread Richard Ryniker
> if you don't use accessibility disable it with > gconftool-2 --type bool --set /desktop/gnome/interface/accessibility false Worked like a charm... after I figured out it must be set for root. > Someone from the Gnome Desktop team needs to comment if these should be > installed and accessibili

Re: Comparing other distros kernels to Fedora.

2010-10-12 Thread Richard Ryniker
>are there other fedora testers using a Dell Studio XPS 1547? I have a Dell Studio XPS 1645 that runs F13: it suspends and resumes just fine. Not your machine exactly, therefore this information may be more tantalizing than useful. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

What is this mega-dvd-test?

2010-10-28 Thread Richard Ryniker
Fedora-14-Live-multi.iso is too large (5.2 gigabytes) for a normal DVD with capacity of 4.7 gigabytes or so. Aha! It must be intended for a USB flash drive with capacity of 8GB or greater... [r...@ryniker ryniker]# cmd/livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb 1024 --home-size-

Re: What is this mega-dvd-test?

2010-10-31 Thread Richard Ryniker
I used an early F14 version of livecd-iso-to-disk, which may explain some different behavior. There is one significant difference in how the script is invoked: in the F13 version, the device argument can (must?) be the base device, such as the /dev/sdc you used where you likely have a /dev/sdc1 pa

Re: What is this mega-dvd-test?

2010-10-31 Thread Richard Ryniker
> Doesn't FAT32 have a 4 GB limit on file size? That should not be a factor in this case. There are multiple "live" system images, but each one is a separate file well under 4GB. It is the total space for all the files that exceeds 4GB. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: selinux and file system check

2010-11-01 Thread Richard Ryniker
>> For the update / selinux relabel issue, if you write to file systems >> with selinux disabled that is going to trigger needing a relabel. > >this happens without any writing (that i know about) occuring. just enter >and exit rescue mode, with the partition(s) mounted rw. If you mount the file s

Re: Firefox 3.6, open pdf outside of browser

2010-11-01 Thread Richard Ryniker
Click: Edit -> Preferences -> Applications Find the line in the first column (Content Type) for "RDF file" and select your desired program. I had to select "Use other" and navigate to my preference, acroread; you should choose your preferred application. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedorap

Re: Firefox 3.6, open pdf outside of browser

2010-11-01 Thread Richard Ryniker
Sorry; finger check: "RDF file" should be "PDF file"; corrected below. Click: Edit -> Preferences -> Applications Find the line in the first column (Content Type) for "PDF file" and select your desired program. I had to select "Use other" and navigate to my preference, acroread; you should ch

.xsession-errors

2010-11-05 Thread Richard Ryniker
Some modestly interesting lines in my F14 .xsession-errors file suggest I might benefit from some lessons in GNOMEish... Failed to play sound: File or data not found ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area ** (nm-applet:1923): WARNING **: get_all_cb: couldn't retrieve syst

Re: .xsession-errors

2010-11-05 Thread Richard Ryniker
JB wrote: System-Preferences-Startup Applications --> Network Manager (nm-applet) Yes. Thank you. There were a whole bunch of things listed in "Startup Applications" that look to be of no relevance to the current purpose of this machine. In particular, after I unchecked NetworkManager and st

Re: .xsession-errors

2010-11-05 Thread Richard Ryniker
Adam Williamson wrote: It fails in this particular way because you don't have NM even installed I don't? This was a straightforward installation from the F14 installation DVD, updated to the current date. I see: [ryni...@mini ~]$ rpm -q --all | grep Network NetworkManager-0.8.1-9.git20

Re: .xsession-errors

2010-11-07 Thread Richard Ryniker
>Yes, nm-applet complains this way (.xsession-errors) that NM is not running. >I agree that, in addition, nm-applet should let the GNOME user know when NM >service (/etc/inet.d/NetworkManager) is not running, instead of just removing >nm-applet icon from the panel. > >I think of these ways to do th

Re: bootloader "very slow installation" --Fedora 19 Final Test Compose 2 (TC2)

2013-06-08 Thread Richard Ryniker
John Reiser wrote on Sat, 08 Jun 2013 07:37:56 -0700: >The database consists of a directory for each installed package, and >each directory contains 8 symlinks for the attributes of that package. >So if 1000 packages are installed then 9000 new files are created. I can imagine a superior data ba

Re: bootloader "very slow installation" --Fedora 19 Final Test Compose 2 (TC2)

2013-06-08 Thread Richard Ryniker
>Might it be possible to defer construction of the yum database until >Firstboot? Just want to make it clear this is something to consider for F20. I think it is too late to make this sort of change in F19. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedorapro

Re: No mail received from redhat (fedora)

2013-06-25 Thread Richard Ryniker
Yeah, you have some sort of problem (configuration issue?) with your MTA: 2013-06-22 14:52:17 1UqSv3-0001aS-Kb <= ryni...@ryniker.ods.org U=ryniker P=local S=863 2013-06-22 14:52:18 1UqSv3-0001aS-Kb ** c...@omen.com R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp: SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:: h

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