rawhide report: 20110122 changes

2011-01-22 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Jan 22 08:15:21 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0()(64bit) beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0(VER_1)(64bit) beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 11:03 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > Should they be visible? GNOME 3 will not start nautilus by default. Sorry, I should have probably announced this change hitting rawhide. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: pulseaudio eats almost 100% of cpu resources during hdd i/o stress by other program (Re: audio skipping/pure sound quality)

2011-01-22 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 19 stycznia 2011 18:44 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski napisał: > > I doubt that this problem is related to kernel space issue. I'll try > to track down it this week. Something strange is happening here. I'm running yum upgrade, amarok, firefox and after a while pulse audio goes mad. iotop s

who hid my gnome terminal?

2011-01-22 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, I upgraded to latest and greatest rawhide and my gnome terminal shows blank screen. I guess it is not a new Gnome 3 feature :) -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinf

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread cornel panceac
2011/1/22 Matthias Clasen > On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 11:03 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > > Should they be visible? > > GNOME 3 will not start nautilus by default. > Sorry, I should have probably announced this change hitting rawhide. > oh, but should it start panels? or at least the gnomeshell?

Re: who hid my gnome terminal?

2011-01-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 16:40 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > I upgraded to latest and greatest rawhide and my gnome terminal shows > blank screen. > > I guess it is not a new Gnome 3 feature :) Its a theme problem. As a workaround, you can uncheck 'use theme colors' in the profile pref

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 17:44 +0200, cornel panceac wrote: > > oh, but should it start panels? or at least the gnomeshell? Yes, it starts gnome-shell, unless your system is not capable of running it, in which case it starts gnome-panel+metacity. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: rawhide report: 20110122 changes

2011-01-22 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "RWMJ" == Richard W M Jones writes: RWMJ> I thought that was all I had to do, but apparently there's RWMJ> something else needed to drop it entirely. Did you delete all of the files and add a dead.package file? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life - J< --

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/22/2011 10:10 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 11:03 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: >> Should they be visible? > > GNOME 3 will not start nautilus by default. > Sorry, I should have probably announced this change hitting rawhide. > The startup applications menu selection has

Re: pulseaudio eats almost 100% of cpu resources during hdd i/o stress by other program (Re: audio skipping/pure sound quality)

2011-01-22 Thread cornel panceac
2011/1/22 Michał Piotrowski > W dniu 19 stycznia 2011 18:44 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski > napisał: > > > > I doubt that this problem is related to kernel space issue. I'll try > > to track down it this week. > > Something strange is happening here. I'm running yum upgrade, amarok, > firefox and

Re: pulseaudio eats almost 100% of cpu resources during hdd i/o stress by other program (Re: audio skipping/pure sound quality)

2011-01-22 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 22 stycznia 2011 17:42 użytkownik cornel panceac napisał: > > > 2011/1/22 Michał Piotrowski >> >> W dniu 19 stycznia 2011 18:44 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski >> napisał: >> > >> > I doubt that this problem is related to kernel space issue. I'll try >> > to track down it this week. >> >> So

Re: who hid my gnome terminal?

2011-01-22 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/1/22 Matthias Clasen : > On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 16:40 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I upgraded to latest and greatest rawhide and my gnome terminal shows >> blank screen. >> >> I guess it is not a new Gnome 3 feature :) > > Its a theme problem. > As a workaround, you can uncheck

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 09:58, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > The startup applications menu selection has gone away also...so how do > we start nautilus when gnome is loaded? Used to be able to put a > startup cmd in the startup apps dialogue. > http://specifications.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/au

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:10:32 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 11:03 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > > Should they be visible? > > GNOME 3 will not start nautilus by default. > Sorry, I should have probably announced this change hitting rawhide. What about people who w

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:51:20 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 17:44 +0200, cornel panceac wrote: > > > > > oh, but should it start panels? or at least the gnomeshell? > > Yes, it starts gnome-shell, unless your system is not capable of running > it, in which case it s

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:51:20 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 17:44 +0200, cornel panceac wrote: > > > > > oh, but should it start panels? or at least the gnomeshell? > > Yes, it starts gnome-shell, unless your system is not capable of running > it, in which case it s

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 12:43 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:51:20 -0500, > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 17:44 +0200, cornel panceac wrote: > > > > > > > > oh, but should it start panels? or at least the gnomeshell? > > > > Yes, it starts gnome-sh

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 12:43 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:51:20 -0500, >>   Matthias Clasen wrote: >> > On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 17:44 +0200, cornel panceac wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > oh, but should it start panel

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 19:16:59 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > Please don't. There's a lot of devices that can't run gnome-shell but > can run the gnome 2 configuration perfectly. With dependencies like > that on devices with small amounts of space you end up with a lot of > extra stuff you

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread drago01
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 12:43 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >>> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:51:20 -0500, >>>   Matthias Clasen wrote: >>> > On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 17:44 +0200, cornel p

USB (un)plug events issue in rawhide

2011-01-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
I am not sure when this started, but I noticed that plugging and unplugging USB devices no longer seems to be triggering actions. Stuff that was plugged in at boot is detected, but lsusb still lists devices after they have been unplugged and new devices don't get created when I plug a new device in

Re: USB (un)plug events issue in rawhide

2011-01-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 13:40:11 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > I am not sure when this started, but I noticed that plugging and unplugging > USB devices no longer seems to be triggering actions. Stuff that was plugged > in at boot is detected, but lsusb still lists devices after they have been

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 19:16:59 +, >  Peter Robinson wrote: >> >> Please don't. There's a lot of devices that can't run gnome-shell but >> can run the gnome 2 configuration perfectly. With dependencies like >> that on devices with sma

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:45 PM, drago01 wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: >>> On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 12:43 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:51:20 -0500,   Matthias Clasen w

Fedora 14 updates-testing report

2011-01-22 Thread updates
The following Fedora 14 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/feh-1.10.1-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/socat-1.7.1.3-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mod_auth_mysql-3.0.0-12.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates

Fedora 13 updates-testing report

2011-01-22 Thread updates
The following Fedora 13 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dbus-1.2.24-2.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/subversion-1.6.15-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/feh-1.10.1-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mod_a

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Jason D. Clinton
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 14:32, Peter Robinson wrote: > Well you'd want to be able to exclude it as well and adding it as an > artificial dep to something like gnome-session won't allow it to be > removed. > GNOME Shell is the shell of GNOME 3 and thus depending on the GNOME Shell from the gnome-

Re: 2011-01-24 @ 16:00UTC - Fedora QA meeting - call for topics

2011-01-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 00:37:17 + "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > I see. > > Is this not FAS problem as in the required page should pop up to the > applicant for reading before he can proceed to apply or the group > admin aint doing his due diligence and regularly check the account > for new

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 14:32, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >> Well you'd want to be able to exclude it as well and adding it as an >> artificial dep to something like gnome-session won't allow it to be >> removed. > > GNOME Shell is the shel

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread drago01
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Jason D. Clinton > wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 14:32, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> >>> Well you'd want to be able to exclude it as well and adding it as an >>> artificial dep to something like gnome-se

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:22:28PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > what about users choice? Isn't that what free software is about? You have the freedom to modify the packages to remove any dependencies you want to. You don't have the freedom to insist that packagers support that use case. --

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:22:28PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> what about users choice? Isn't that what free software is about? > > You have the freedom to modify the packages to remove any dependencies > you want to. You don't have

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread drago01
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:22:28PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >>> what about users choice? Isn't that what free software is about? >> >> You have the freedom to modify the pa

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread David
On 1/22/2011 6:05 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:22:28PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >>> what about users choice? Isn't that what free software is about? >> >> You have the freedom to modify the packages to rem

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 23:05 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 10:22:28PM +, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > >> what about users choice? Isn't that what free software is about? > > > > You have the freedom to modify t

Re: What has happened to desktop icons in rawhide?

2011-01-22 Thread cornel panceac
> > > So what are all the people that don't have video cards suppose to do > > that don't support 3D. Use KDE? I thought gnome was continuing to > > support that use case? > > Yes, thats the much-talked about fallback. Supporting that does not mean > that we have to support only installing the half

Re: Introduction

2011-01-22 Thread Jan Vongrej
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:35 PM, James Laska wrote: > On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 13:36 +-0100, Jan Vongrej wrote: > +AD4 Hi, > +AD4 > +AD4 I would like to patricipate and as i looked currently the best way to > do is to try to join Bug Zappers Team. > +AD4 I have experience like system administrator,