On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 04:34:43PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> During Alpha, that's normal, it's been that way for 2-3 releases. Modern
> debug kernels are very slow and inefficient; installing with a debug
> kernel seems to exhaust 1GB of RAM quite easily. That's a separate
> issue, though, an
On Fri, 2013-12-20 at 01:10 +0100, Lars Seipel wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:03:36AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Well, I did some testing during F20 cycle which seems to indicate F20
> > Shell takes up a lot more memory than F19 when using llvmpipe. We're not
> > sure exactly what's goi
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:03:36AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Well, I did some testing during F20 cycle which seems to indicate F20
> Shell takes up a lot more memory than F19 when using llvmpipe. We're not
> sure exactly what's going on yet,
It's not just Gnome Shell's fault I think. At leas
On 2013-12-19 15:26 (GMT-0600) Dan Mossor composed:
When there is
storage media besides RAM available, you can run F20 on as little as the
512MB that Ralf is using.
Yesterday I did a HTTP F20 minimal install with .5G RAM and 1.13GHz Piii. The
second GUI page was taking a long time to finish t
On 12/18/2013 01:21 PM, Akshay Vyas wrote:
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/18/2013 08:03 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 15:03 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
Hi,
i just booted the live iso in a VM with 1G of memory and after I start
"Sof
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 12/18/2013 08:03 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 15:03 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> i just booted the live iso in a VM with 1G of memory and after I start
>>> "Software" the VM locks up compl
On 12/18/2013 08:03 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 15:03 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
Hi,
i just booted the live iso in a VM with 1G of memory and after I start
"Software" the VM locks up completely after a few seconds. Having "top"
open while starting "Software" shows v
On Wed, 2013-12-18 at 15:03 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
> Hi,
> i just booted the live iso in a VM with 1G of memory and after I start
> "Software" the VM locks up completely after a few seconds. Having "top"
> open while starting "Software" shows very little free/cached RAM left
> over
Hi,
i just booted the live iso in a VM with 1G of memory and after I start
"Software" the VM locks up completely after a few seconds. Having "top"
open while starting "Software" shows very little free/cached RAM left
over before the system dies so I upped the RAM of the VM to 2G and with
that
2013-04-03, 18:55 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson":
> I was pretty sure the Anaconda had gotten it well below 768MB for the
> graphical mode guess I was wrong...
You're right. Anaconda needs more RAM than XFCE desktop in this example.
There is a way to avoid this, by editing anaconda python files
On 03/04/13 11:55 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 04/03/2013 06:54 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On 03/04/13 10:45 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Last time I checked it had gone up to 768 at one point then down to 384
I would assume with the recent rework it should be smaller than that
On 04/03/2013 06:54 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On 03/04/13 10:45 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Last time I checked it had gone up to 768 at one point then down to 384
I would assume with the recent rework it should be smaller than that but
then again I also had expected the installer to be
On 03/04/13 10:45 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Last time I checked it had gone up to 768 at one point then down to 384
I would assume with the recent rework it should be smaller than that but
then again I also had expected the installer to be faster to install
with the recent rework ( whic
On 04/03/2013 02:09 PM, Pete Travis wrote:
I was hoping you guys were already collecting information, or that a
datapoint could be added to existing tests. Identifying things like
the memory required to complete a default installation, or the base
graphics hardware required to run gnome-shell
On 03/04/13 07:03 AM, Joe Wulf wrote:
Recommend that kickstarted systems with less than the recommended
minimums state something to that effect in the anaconda logs.
The system still might build, and might have problems.
In practice at present this is highly unlikely; anaconda has higher
requ
On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 08:09:53 -0600,
Pete Travis wrote:
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I *really* want to stay away from absolute 'minimum' guidelines. Those with
the skills to set a system up with comically low resources are not the
target audience - we want to se
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On 02/04/13 01:28 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>
>>
>>> Anaconda set's the minimal hw requirements so you should check what's
>> their today's requirement to function properly
>>
>
> Well, half the time the number in anaconda doesn't
Recommend that kickstarted systems with less than the recommended minimums
state something to that effect in the anaconda logs.
The system still might build, and might have problems. Sure the peep's
responsible might NOT look in that log. The fact that the system was built,
either kickstarted
Dne Út 2. dubna 2013 15:24:17, Adam Williamson napsal(a):
> It's a really squishy area to try and deal with, though, honestly. I'm
> not entirely sure validating HW requirements as part of QA is realistic,
> because I mean, what if we pick 'mail/web server' as one of the roles?
hm, then measure wh
On 02/04/13 01:28 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 04/02/2013 07:48 PM, Pete Travis wrote:
Hi,
The docs team has begun assembling release notes for Fedora 19, and
I've been thinking over hardware requirements.
Historically, we have cited the CPU, storage, and especially memory
requiremen
On 04/02/2013 07:48 PM, Pete Travis wrote:
Hi,
The docs team has begun assembling release notes for Fedora 19, and
I've been thinking over hardware requirements.
Historically, we have cited the CPU, storage, and especially memory
requirements for the default installation - a basic GNOME des
Hi,
The docs team has begun assembling release notes for Fedora 19, and I've
been thinking over hardware requirements.
Historically, we have cited the CPU, storage, and especially memory
requirements for the default installation - a basic GNOME desktop. After
checking in with the anaconda team,
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