On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 10:51 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>
> "libgee problem"? In Rawhide you may need libgee06 (libgee06-devel).
> It is parallel-installable with libgee (libgee-devel), which has been
> upgraded to to 0.7.0 and strangely decreases its API version from
> gee-1.0 to gee-0.8 also
On 09/23/2011 03:13 AM, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Sigh. I've been running Rawhide for a very long time. As of the last
> year or so, though, almost every post I make draws a response like
> this. I'm dense, I'll admit, but I'm getting the hint. Rawhide
> probably does not have much of a future on th
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 19:24:09 -0400, MC (Matthias) wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 11:59 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>
> > The gnome guys have been mostly working in f16, so this stuff won't show
> > up in rawhide until the updates hit stable. (Right now they are in
> > updates-testing.) They sho
On Fri, 2011-09-23 at 11:59 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> The gnome guys have been mostly working in f16, so this stuff won't show
> up in rawhide until the updates hit stable. (Right now they are in
> updates-testing.) They shouldn't hit stable until after a beta rc is
> accepted.
I have tried
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 09:41:08 -0600,
Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:09:43 +0100
> Peter Robinson wrote:
>
> > Looks more like you need gnome-shell 3.1.92 amd clutter-gst-1.3.14-2
> >
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-13111
> >
> > They're both in the
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:50:16 +0200
Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > 3.7.9 never showed the problem -
>
> Let's not argue about that, please. 3.7.9-0.3.20110409cvs was the first to
> suffer from focus problems, and 3.7.9-4 was the one to "fix" it.
Sorry, I was being sloppy. I meant "recent 3.7.9"
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:05:15 -0600, JC (Jonathan) wrote:
> > The old focus issue was due to a side-effect of a work-around for
> > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653061
> > which had caused Claws Mail to start minimized. That bug is still
> > not fixed in GNOME Shell, but we have swi
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 16:09:43 +0100
Peter Robinson wrote:
> Looks more like you need gnome-shell 3.1.92 amd clutter-gst-1.3.14-2
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-13111
>
> They're both in the update, you might want to try another mirror, or
> "yum clean all"
The thing the
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011, Peter Robinson wrote:
> Looks more like you need gnome-shell 3.1.92 amd clutter-gst-1.3.14-2
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-13111
>
> They're both in the update, you might want to try another mirror, or
> "yum clean all"
This is very common for rawhid
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 00:50:24 +0200
> Michael Schwendt wrote:
>
>> The old focus issue was due to a side-effect of a work-around for
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653061
>> which had caused Claws Mail to start minimized. T
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 00:50:24 +0200
Michael Schwendt wrote:
> The old focus issue was due to a side-effect of a work-around for
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653061
> which had caused Claws Mail to start minimized. That bug is still
> not fixed in GNOME Shell, but we have switched
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 22:12:33 -0600,
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> I think thats not so great an idea... :(
>
> What happens if an update is pulled?
>
> rawhide goes back? Or keeps the bad update?
I don't think going back is worse than not getting updates for a week because
fixes are in update
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:06:34 -0500
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 16:13:53 -0600,
> Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> >
> > Sure .. I will learn the magics of what to do. Hey Jonathan you
> > think you can find me a good cowboy rope >?
>
> One proposal that would be nice to hav
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 16:13:53 -0600,
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
> Sure .. I will learn the magics of what to do. Hey Jonathan you think
> you can find me a good cowboy rope >?
One proposal that would be nice to have approved before f17 branches is
have rawhide inherit from updates-testin
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:48:04 -0400, AJ (Adam) wrote:
> > > IMO, it could be much more productive if you also
> > > evaluated Fedora 16 development instead of Fedora 17 development.
> >
> > Sigh.
> >
> > I've been running Rawhide for a very long time. As of the last year or
> > so, though, almos
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:58:40 -0600, KF (Kevin) wrote:
> I'd suggest opening a bug on that claws-mail issue and see if it can be
> tracked down there.
>
> I just looked on my rawhide machine and I can't see the claws-mail
> focus issue here. I am using Xfce tho, not gnome.
The old focus issue was
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 16:06, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 16:01 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 15:48, Adam Jackson wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 15:43 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:05:28 +0200
>> >> Michael Schwen
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 16:01 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 15:48, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 15:43 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> >> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:05:28 +0200
> >> Michael Schwendt wrote:
> >>
> >> > IMO, it could be much more productive
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 15:48, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 15:43 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:05:28 +0200
>> Michael Schwendt wrote:
>>
>> > IMO, it could be much more productive if you also
>> > evaluated Fedora 16 development instead of Fedora 17 devel
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:43:55 -0600
Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:05:28 +0200
> Michael Schwendt wrote:
>
> > IMO, it could be much more productive if you also
> > evaluated Fedora 16 development instead of Fedora 17 development.
>
> Sigh.
>
> I've been running Rawhide for a
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 15:43 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:05:28 +0200
> Michael Schwendt wrote:
>
> > IMO, it could be much more productive if you also
> > evaluated Fedora 16 development instead of Fedora 17 development.
>
> Sigh.
>
> I've been running Rawhide for a ve
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 23:05:28 +0200
Michael Schwendt wrote:
> IMO, it could be much more productive if you also
> evaluated Fedora 16 development instead of Fedora 17 development.
Sigh.
I've been running Rawhide for a very long time. As of the last year or
so, though, almost every post I make d
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:14:42 -0600, JC (Jonathan) wrote:
> 3) Speaking of claws, the current Rawhide version remains hosed. It has
> the old pop-under and focus problems that got fixed earlier this year,
In one of your older threads I've told you before that I cannot reproduce
that. Dunno whethe
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 14:14:42 -0600,
Jonathan Corbet wrote:
>
> 1) Chances are the "oh no" will go away once I install the latest versions
> of clutter and mutter; that has been my experience in the past. But yum
> won't do that for me. Somehow, in recent times, it has gotten rather
> hard
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:14:42 -0600
Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> There's something about that "oh no something went wrong" screen that just
> makes it clear that you're not going to have as good a day as you'd hoped
> for.
I haven't tried to look at it in detail yet, but the gnome control
center alway
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> 2) When running under gnome-shell, I have all kinds of problems with
> partial and/or delayed updates to the screen; these have been mentioned on
> this list before. Emacs and claws-mail seem particularly susceptible to
> this problem, f
There's something about that "oh no something went wrong" screen that just
makes it clear that you're not going to have as good a day as you'd hoped
for. Now that I've finished re-educating the window manager about my
peculiarities ("yes, I do like more than one workspace, thank you"),
here's a fe
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