Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/24/10 6:32 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 06/24/2010 01:48 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: >> Do people really not do VNC installs? >> > > Floppy/Cdrom/DVD/USB/.. I have even removed HD put it another machine > and performed the frackin ins

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 06/24/2010 01:48 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > Do people really not do VNC installs? > Floppy/Cdrom/DVD/USB/.. I have even removed HD put it another machine and performed the frackin install all due to some bloated memory requirements in Anaconda put them back in the machine. On servers I use

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 08:05 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 09:48 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: >> >> > > I'd really rather not, it's still necessary in quite a lot of cases. My >> > > laptop, fr'instance, where intel or no

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/24/10 8:26 AM, seth vidal wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 10:24 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >>> "AJ" == Adam Jackson writes: >> >> AJ> Do people really not do VNC installs? >> >> Since everyone else is chiming in... I have never done an

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 11:47 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > I'm just saying, if KMS doesn't work, I don't even attempt vesa, I just > go straight to VNC. Maybe I'm too close to the implementation, in that > I know all the ways vesa won't work (Xen guests, things that aren't PCs, > EFI machines, any

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 08:05 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 09:48 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > > > > I'd really rather not, it's still necessary in quite a lot of cases. My > > > laptop, fr'instance, where intel or nouveau (or both, depending which > > > graphics adapter you

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 10:24 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > "AJ" == Adam Jackson writes: > > AJ> Do people really not do VNC installs? > > Since everyone else is chiming in... I have never done anything other > than VNC installs. I'm not even sure what a regular install looks like.

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "AJ" == Adam Jackson writes: AJ> Do people really not do VNC installs? Since everyone else is chiming in... I have never done anything other than VNC installs. I'm not even sure what a regular install looks like. - J< -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: h

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 08:05 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 09:48 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > > > > I'd really rather not, it's still necessary in quite a lot of cases. My > > > laptop, fr'instance, where intel or nouveau (or both, depending which > > > graphics adapter you

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 09:48 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > > I'd really rather not, it's still necessary in quite a lot of cases. My > > laptop, fr'instance, where intel or nouveau (or both, depending which > > graphics adapter you select) will cheerfully try to load, but fail > > miserably and leav

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Adam Jackson said: > Do people really not do VNC installs? On a server? Sometimes. On a desktop or notebook? Nope, never. I only have one desktop on my desk, so how would I connect to VNC? -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Adam Jackson wrote: > Do people really not do VNC installs? I don't. It would require you to have two computers and a working network. Yes, I have an N900 now that I could use, but I'm not always guaranteed a wireless network. Also, if you have a brand new system, the network driver may not be

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 14:32 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 17:24 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 16:57 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > > > Much like we did after Fedora 12, I'll be asking folks for help working > > > through the recommendations. Ideally

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 17:24 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 16:57 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > Much like we did after Fedora 12, I'll be asking folks for help working > > through the recommendations. Ideally this list will serve as a set of > > tasks available to anyone inte

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-16 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 16:57 -0400, James Laska wrote: > Much like we did after Fedora 12, I'll be asking folks for help working > through the recommendations. Ideally this list will serve as a set of > tasks available to anyone interested in helping improve the next > release. Quick, this is fir