Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-02-28 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Patrick Lists wrote: > You always jump in Oracle's defense when someone sticks it to them and get > all wound up about it. Of course, I support companies that support open source development. I don´t support attempts to balkanize foss projects or wrestle control

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/23/2013 02:55 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 02:12 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: Bill Nottingham writes: Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) said: (If the compatibility testing goes *really* smoothly, maybe we could just drop the requirement for original mysql to still be available,

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Patrick Lists
On 01/24/2013 09:58 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: [snip] do you volunteer to maintain and test MySQL? If I find a volunteer, will you continue shipping it?. It's not a question of shipping. Just find a packager who will maintain the MySQL RPM and makes sure it's updated via Koji etc. And if the

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 12:24 +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 05:58 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > >> > > >> > because resources are limited > >> > >> I´ll have to t

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > Dne Čt 24. ledna 2013 13:25:08, drago01 napsal(a): >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Karel Volný wrote: >> > Dne Čt 24. ledna 2013 12:24:33, drago01 napsal(a): >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Adam Williamson >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Karel Volný
Dne Čt 24. ledna 2013 13:25:08, drago01 napsal(a): > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > > Dne Čt 24. ledna 2013 12:24:33, drago01 napsal(a): > >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Adam Williamson > > > > wrote: > >> > I quote from the feature page: > >> > > >> > "Recent chang

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 05:58:00 -0300 Fernando Cassia wrote: > As one commenter says > "Oracle is using RHEL source code to create Oracle Enterprise Linux > and compete directly with Red Hat's server products. Shock horror, no idea where this Cent or Scientific stuff came from? Thus, one can > ea

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Karel Volný
Dne Čt 24. ledna 2013 05:58:00, Fernando Cassia napsal(a): > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > > because resources are limited > > I´ll have to trust your word. > > > do you volunteer to maintain and test MySQL? > > If I find a volunteer, will you continue shipping it?. we

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 05:58 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Karel Volný > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > because resources are limited > >> > >> I´ll have to trust your word

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > Dne Čt 24. ledna 2013 12:24:33, drago01 napsal(a): >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Adam Williamson > wrote: >> > I quote from the feature page: >> > >> > "Recent changes made by Oracle indicate they are moving the MySQL >> > project to be

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Karel Volný
Dne Čt 24. ledna 2013 12:24:33, drago01 napsal(a): > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > I quote from the feature page: > > > > "Recent changes made by Oracle indicate they are moving the MySQL > > project to be more closed. They are no longer publishing any useful > > i

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 12:24:33 +0100 > drago01 wrote: > > >> >> The reply from Andrew renders this moot. If upstream is willing to >> maintain MySQL in Fedora then the whole "replace it because it is >> hard to maintain" does not make sense. W

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 12:24:33 +0100 drago01 wrote: > > The reply from Andrew renders this moot. If upstream is willing to > maintain MySQL in Fedora then the whole "replace it because it is > hard to maintain" does not make sense. We should either stay with > MySQL or ship both but there is no r

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 05:58 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Karel Volný wrote: >> > >> > because resources are limited >> >> I´ll have to trust your word. >> >> > do you volunteer to maintain and test My

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 05:58 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > > > > because resources are limited > > I´ll have to trust your word. > > > do you volunteer to maintain and test MySQL? > > If I find a volunteer, will you continue shipping it?.

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > > because resources are limited I´ll have to trust your word. > do you volunteer to maintain and test MySQL? If I find a volunteer, will you continue shipping it?. I smell a proxy war against Oracle for their Oracle Linux efforts, totally

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-23 Thread Karel Volný
Dne St 23. ledna 2013 09:45:28, Fernando Cassia napsal(a): > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Yeah, 'all the compatibility testing' is something of a vague idea to > > pin down :) > > Why can´t Fedora ship both? let users decide whether to use MySQL > Community edition

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-23 Thread Kellerman Rivero Suarez
El 23/01/2013 08:18, "Fernando Cassia" escribió: > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > Yeah, 'all the compatibility testing' is something of a vague idea to > > pin down :) > > Why can´t Fedora ship both? let users decide whether to use MySQL > Community edition or M

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-23 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Yeah, 'all the compatibility testing' is something of a vague idea to > pin down :) Why can´t Fedora ship both? let users decide whether to use MySQL Community edition or MariaDB. After all it isn´t like size is an issue, given the DVD

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-01-23 at 02:12 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > Bill Nottingham writes: > > Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) said: > >> (If the compatibility testing goes *really* smoothly, maybe we could > >> just drop the requirement for original mysql to still be available, > >> in which case it reduces to the