Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-17 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/14/20 10:08, Kamil Paral wrote: We do have the test case for Core Applications and the ones for Browser and Terminal. Software even gets a tryout for updating. Question is: Is this sufficient? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_workstation_core_applications is just about a few ap

Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-14 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 6:51 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: > > (and looking at> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test , it > seems > > we don't even have one, because what we usually do is to thoughtlessly > > perform some of those extra graphical steps, like openin

Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-10 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/10/20 09:45, Kamil Paral wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 5:53 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: That's why I kept asking whether you'd like to create a test case tailored to GUI installation workflows (and looking at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test , it se

Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-10 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/10/20 09:45, Kamil Paral wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 5:53 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I thought the best way to see if the install went well was to see if the application would start and close. I think the major difference is that you keep thinking in terms of applications (icon

Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-10 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 5:53 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: > I thought the best way to see if the install went well was to see if the > application would start and close. I think the major difference is that you keep thinking in terms of applications (icons in menus, open and close), while I t

Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2020-02-07 at 11:53 -0500, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: > In retrospect my initial thinking on this test case was erroneous. > Most > > of my carrer was spent making sure the documents I wrote were as > > comprehensive as possible and left little to doubt. I'm getting used > to > > ho

Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-07 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/7/20 10:31, Kamil Paral wrote: So we're slowly getting back to the original version of the test case. It still contains instructions to check that applications start correctly, which I believe is not the point of the test case. I can certainly see that It's missing verification via rp

Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-07 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:02 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: > > > > I believe the purpose of the test case is to have a very generic test > case > > that works in all environments (not just graphical ones) and applies to > all > > package managers (notably dnf, packagekit, gnome-software, discove

Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-07 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I believe the purpose of the test case is to have a very generic test case that works in all environments (not just graphical ones) and applies to all package managers (notably dnf, packagekit, gnome-software, discover, dnfdragora, etc -- but not rpm, that is one level below them). It relies on

Re: Proposal: revision to Install Remove test case

2020-02-07 Thread Kamil Paral
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 8:38 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: > > I have completed a first draft of my proposed revision to the > "QA:Testcase package install remove" Base test case. I got some input > based on my initial e'mail on this. I believe I have addressed those > items. > > I believe it i