Re: Fedora 20 release day FedUp bug: post-mortem

2014-01-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-01-02 at 18:25 +, Sérgio Basto wrote: > A few day before fedup-0.8 appears I upgrade some systems to F20 (in pre > releases ) without problems ... If you ran an upgrade before the mirrormanager redirects were updated, your upgrade would have used the initramfs from the Beta, I be

Re: Fedora 20 release day FedUp bug: post-mortem

2014-01-02 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Seg, 2013-12-30 at 00:05 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi, folks. Now things have calmed down a bit in Fedora 20 and Rawhide, I > have time to write this mail! > > Many of you may already know that there was a significant issue with > upgrades to Fedora 20 around release day - 2013-12-17. >

Re: Fedora 20 release day FedUp bug: post-mortem

2013-12-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > I thought Yum was mostly a friendly find and fetch layer on top of RPM, > while RPM actually does the work of dep resolution, installation and > removal. > Sort of but it does matter whether fedup is using RPM directly or running yum upgr

Re: Fedora 20 release day FedUp bug: post-mortem

2013-12-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-12-30 11:45 (GMT-0500) Rahul Sundaram composed: I thought it was running rpm as opposed to yum? I thought Yum was mostly a friendly find and fetch layer on top of RPM, while RPM actually does the work of dep resolution, installation and removal. -- "The wise are known for their under

Re: Fedora 20 release day FedUp bug: post-mortem

2013-12-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > If you're going to do > that you may as well make it also do the upgrade 'offline', as fedup > does. But that's really about all fedup does: it really just boots to a > special systemd target and does 'yum upgrade', when you boil it d

Re: Fedora 20 release day FedUp bug: post-mortem

2013-12-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-12-30 at 03:40 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-12-30 00:05 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed: > > > thanks for reading this far? :) > > It seems to me like FedUp is a response to an unasked question. I've never > used it yet, always either installing anew, or using Yum to inst

Re: Fedora 20 release day FedUp bug: post-mortem

2013-12-30 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-12-30 00:05 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed: thanks for reading this far? :) It seems to me like FedUp is a response to an unasked question. I've never used it yet, always either installing anew, or using Yum to install the target fedora-release(/fedora-release-rawhide) package(s