Re: QA group joining process: new members cannot subscribe to list until approved

2016-08-07 Thread John Dulaney
On Sat, Aug 06, 2016 at 11:30:04AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > What do you think of the idea of directly contacting people who apply > without sending a self-intro mail? The only issue I can think of with that is you are potentially giving your email to a spammer. Otherwise, I like it. Jo

Re: QA group joining process: new members cannot subscribe to list until approved

2016-08-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2016-08-06 at 13:35 -0400, John Dulaney wrote: > Personally, I'm a bit hesitant to sponsor someone that has not sent an > introduction email. I also check to see if they're on IRC, and if I > see neither, I'm a bit hesitant to sponsor them. If I see them on IRC > but don't see an email,

Re: QA group joining process: new members cannot subscribe to list until approved

2016-08-06 Thread John Dulaney
On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 05:28:33PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Well we're definitely out of scope now...but for some key personnel > (people with admin access to key servers and so on), we actually do > need as many contact methods as possible. If there's a massive hack or > a huge security iss

Re: QA group joining process: new members cannot subscribe to list until approved

2016-08-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2016-08-05 at 16:48 -0600, Viorel Tabara wrote: > On Fri Aug 05 2016 16:08:49 GMT-0600 (MDT) Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > > Still, we could probably clarify the join process in any case. > > What's the purpose of phone number in FAS? It's a piece of personal > information > spammers

Re: QA group joining process: new members cannot subscribe to list until approved

2016-08-05 Thread Viorel Tabara
On Fri Aug 05 2016 16:08:49 GMT-0600 (MDT) Adam Williamson wrote: > Still, we could probably clarify the join process in any case. What's the purpose of phone number in FAS? It's a piece of personal information spammers will never reveal. -- Viorel -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: QA group joining process: new members cannot subscribe to list until approved

2016-08-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 15:08:49 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > Hmm, sorry. Someone said this was the case on IRC, and I didn't > actually check - I should have. > > Still, we could probably clarify the join process in any case. I'll > come up with a separate proposal for that. Note that the one c

Re: QA group joining process: new members cannot subscribe to list until approved

2016-08-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2016-08-05 at 15:54 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 12:48:39 -0700 > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > Hi folks! In an IRC discussion with a new member this morning, we > > became aware of an issue (possibly some folks knew about this already, > > but I didn't!) in the joi

Re: QA group joining process: new members cannot subscribe to list until approved

2016-08-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 12:48:39 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! In an IRC discussion with a new member this morning, we > became aware of an issue (possibly some folks knew about this already, > but I didn't!) in the joining process. This is mostly of interest to > qa group moderators/spons

Re: QA group joining process: new members cannot subscribe to list until approved

2016-08-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2016-08-05 at 14:22 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Uh, wouldn't the addition of a "captcha" on the signup page make > joining up without requiring additional group memberships easier and > more bot-proof? That would also prevent the sponsors having to deal > with a slew of botted initial con

Re: QA group joining process: new members cannot subscribe to list until approved

2016-08-05 Thread Rick Stevens
On 08/05/2016 12:48 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! In an IRC discussion with a new member this morning, we > became aware of an issue (possibly some folks knew about this already, > but I didn't!) in the joining process. This is mostly of interest to qa > group moderators/sponsors, but I fi

QA group joining process: new members cannot subscribe to list until approved

2016-08-05 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! In an IRC discussion with a new member this morning, we became aware of an issue (possibly some folks knew about this already, but I didn't!) in the joining process. This is mostly of interest to qa group moderators/sponsors, but I figured it can't hurt to make everyone aware. Recently,