On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 09:51 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> It's even easier than that. Click on the black title bar in the Display
> capplet and move it to the monitor you want it to appear on.
Does that actually change the primary display or just move the bar? In
other words, do other applicatio
On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 15:40 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote:
> Dne 21.4.2011 15:51, Adam Jackson napsal(a):
> > It's even easier than that. Click on the black title bar in the Display
> > capplet and move it to the monitor you want it to appear on.
>
> Unfortunately, it took me twenty minutes before I fi
Dne 21.4.2011 15:51, Adam Jackson napsal(a):
> It's even easier than that. Click on the black title bar in the Display
> capplet and move it to the monitor you want it to appear on.
Unfortunately, it took me twenty minutes before I figured out this one.
... :(
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On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 12:29 -0700, Michael Knepher wrote:
> > What's the alternative, maintain long-term patches to a desktop despite
> > the fact that most of our desktop team are part of the upstream GNOME
> > development team? It's not likely.
>
> Well, one possible alternative would be to inc
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 02:17 -0700, Scott Doty wrote:
>>
>> Adam Williamson wrote:
>>
>> >The alternative was not having the Shut Down option at all, so be
>> >careful what you wish for...=)
>>
>> I know you're kidding, sir, because such ex
On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 02:17 -0700, Scott Doty wrote:
>
> Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> >The alternative was not having the Shut Down option at all, so be
> >careful what you wish for...=)
>
> I know you're kidding, sir, because such examples of false dichotomies
> are clearly logical fallacies...a
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 10:23:42 -0700, MK wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 20:07 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> >
> >> Launch firefox and display the About popup. Notice anything missing?
> >> Yup, the only way to be rid of it is to stop FF and ki
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 20:07 -0500, John Morris wrote:
>
>> Launch firefox and display the About popup. Notice anything missing?
>> Yup, the only way to be rid of it is to stop FF and kill off
>> xulrunner-bin. Or perhaps xkill? Is this a wi
On Thu, 2011-04-21 at 09:53 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 20:07 -0500, John Morris wrote:
>
> > Launch firefox and display the About popup. Notice anything missing?
> > Yup, the only way to be rid of it is to stop FF and kill off
> > xulrunner-bin. Or perhaps xkill? Is this
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 20:07 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> Launch firefox and display the About popup. Notice anything missing?
> Yup, the only way to be rid of it is to stop FF and kill off
> xulrunner-bin. Or perhaps xkill? Is this a window manager (mutter?)
> bug?
Probably? I have difficulty
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 20:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 20:07 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> > My large display is to the left of the laptop. This is correctable via
> > the GUI. Making it the primary display isn't, xrandr is required to set
> > the primary display with 'xr
On 04/21/2011 07:54 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
>
> I think the OP has a good bead on this. It is rather silly to change
> the paradigm (no close button on popups) and expect people to use the
> ESC key instead. Use the ALT button to shut down? What kind of lunacy
> is this? I can't believe it takes TH
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:07:38PM -0500, John Morris wrote:
> Ok, downloaded the F15Beta live cd today. Booted it on a Thinkpad X200s
> docked with external display, keyboard and mouse + internal panel.
>
> Guess I'll run the bugs by roughly in the order discovered.
>
> Grub is the first one.
Adam Williamson wrote:
>The alternative was not having the Shut Down option at all, so be
>careful what you wish for...=)
I know you're kidding, sir, because such examples of false dichotomies are
clearly logical fallacies...and we know those never appear on Fedora mailing
lists... ;-)
Seri
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 20:07 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> Cups is present and browsing is enabled but no printers show. Lots of
> printers are expected to show. Nothing interesting in the logs.
This is because Fedora still has no good story for how applications
should request firewall changes. It
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 20:59 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> The expectation isn't that people should use Esc, it's that the dialog
> should have a Close button. Check the About dialog for any GNOME app.
If the expectation is that 100% of applications will conform to Gnome UI
standards, there is o
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 19:24 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> >Not that I specifically agree with it but popup windows like the about
> > window are dismissed with the Esc key rather than a close button.
> > Gnome-shell has some minimalistic design decisions in it which will take
> > some getting u
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 20:07 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> Ok, downloaded the F15Beta live cd today. Booted it on a Thinkpad X200s
> docked with external display, keyboard and mouse + internal panel.
>
> Guess I'll run the bugs by roughly in the order discovered.
>
> Grub is the first one. The ext
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 19:24 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> I think the OP has a good bead on this. It is rather silly to change
> the paradigm (no close button on popups) and expect people to use the
> ESC key instead. Use the ALT button to shut down? What kind of lunacy
> is this? I can't believe i
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 20:39 -0500, John Watzke wrote:
>Are you saying that ABRT didn't download debuginfo packages? For a
> while now (not just F15) debuginfo isn't installed at install time.
> It just automatically gets downloaded when ABRT tries to generate the
> backtrace and it caches th
On 04/20/2011 06:39 PM, John Watzke wrote:
[snip]
>> Launch firefox and display the About popup. Notice anything missing?
>> Yup, the only way to be rid of it is to stop FF and kill off
>> xulrunner-bin. Or perhaps xkill? Is this a window manager (mutter?)
>> bug?
>>
>
>Not that I specifica
> Next bug is no debuginfo packages for key bits like glibc means no
> automatic bug report from abrt was possible. Guys, no debug packages
> means no good reports, which is the whole point of a beta, right?
>
Are you saying that ABRT didn't download debuginfo packages? For a while
now (not j
Ok, downloaded the F15Beta live cd today. Booted it on a Thinkpad X200s
docked with external display, keyboard and mouse + internal panel.
Guess I'll run the bugs by roughly in the order discovered.
Grub is the first one. The external keyboard didn't work. It does on
F12 which is the primary O
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