2012/4/19 Michael Hennebry
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Matthias Clasen wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 16:48 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > It shows up in the file
>>> manager; it's not mounted.
>>> Why not?
>>>
>>> In F16, it was mounted.
>>>
>
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 16:48 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> It shows up in the file manager; it's not mounted.
Why not?
In F16, it was mounted.
In Windows, it's mounted.
In Mac OS, it's mounted.
Why
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 03:26 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 21:38 -0400, Ma
>
> Honestly, I'm not sure there's any difference at all between 'mount on
> attach' and 'mount on any attempt to access' from a security POV.
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gvfs/commit/?id=e30a67f3215
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 21:38 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> The arguments are really going downhill here. I'm not overly interested
> in wading into this, but I'll just say that whenever we do something
> automatically, somebody will get mad. In the past, auto-mounting (and
> even just automatical
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 16:48 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > It shows up in the file manager; it's not mounted.
> Why not?
>
> In F16, it was mounted.
>
> In Windows, it's mounted.
>
> In Mac OS, it's mounted.
>
> Why should F17 behave differen
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 14:40 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said:
> > On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 13:10 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, I'm aware of that, but that's not what I want.
> > >
> > > If it is the position of the Fedora developers that /run
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>
> It shows up in the file manager; it's not mounted.
>
> Why not?
>
> In F16, it was mounted.
>
> In Windows, it's mounted.
>
> In Mac OS, it's mounted.
>
> Why should F17 behave differently
On 04/18/2012 04:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> It shows up in the file manager; it's not mounted.
Why not?
In F16, it was mounted.
In Windows, it's mounted.
In Mac OS, it's mounted.
Why should F17 behave differently from F17 and from every other
mainstream OS people are familiar with?
What i
Richard Ryniker (ryni...@alum.mit.edu) said:
> >If I plug it in while I'm logged in, it shows up. I log out and log back in,
> >and it still shows up.
>
> >If I reboot, plug it in during GDM, and then log in... it shows up. Under
> >what circumstance does it not show up for you?
Aha, for this la
>If I plug it in while I'm logged in, it shows up. I log out and log back in,
>and it still shows up.
>If I reboot, plug it in during GDM, and then log in... it shows up. Under
>what circumstance does it not show up for you?
If your USB stick is plugged in before you boot your system, where does
Three use cases in which in my opinion the behavior is clearly incorrect:
Case 1:
1. Put DVD in drive while logged in. DVD is mounted.
2. Reboot computer and log back in. DVD is not mounted. It should be.
Case 2:
1. Put DVD in drive before logging in. DVD is not mounted.
2. Log in. DVD is n
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said:
> On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 13:10 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>
> > Yes, I'm aware of that, but that's not what I want.
> >
> > If it is the position of the Fedora developers that /run/media/$USER
> > is the right place for stuff to be mounted, and I don
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 13:10 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> Yes, I'm aware of that, but that's not what I want.
>
> If it is the position of the Fedora developers that /run/media/$USER
> is the right place for stuff to be mounted, and I don't have a
> particular problem with that decision, then I
On 04/18/2012 01:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> If you set a specific mount location for a device in that tool - i.e. in
> fstab - it will be used even if the device is connected after login.
Yes, I'm aware of that, but that's not what I want.
If it is the position of the Fedora developers that /
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 12:15 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> OK, so I took a look at the GNOME "Disks" utility, which I was finally
> able to get to run without crashing, and as far as I can tell, it
> doesn't resolve my main complaint with the new F17 behavior.
>
> Yes, I can use the Disks utility
OK, so I took a look at the GNOME "Disks" utility, which I was finally
able to get to run without crashing, and as far as I can tell, it
doesn't resolve my main complaint with the new F17 behavior.
Yes, I can use the Disks utility to configure removable devices, e.g.,
my DVD drive, to mount on sta
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 10:23 +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote:
> 2. "I have a plugged-in USB disk and I am at the physical console
>however I need to find the name of my USB disk in the folder list
>and click on it before I can use any files on it"
>
> This is what I personally object to, and I sus
Hello,
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:50:47 -0400
Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> I am not talking about static mounts. I'm talking about if I have a
> removable device inserted / plugged in / whatever, then when I log
> in, I should see it. This is what users expect. Period.
>
> Bugzillad: https://bugzilla.r
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 16:39 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 21:09 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > I don't think anyone would contest that /etc/fstab is a very old UNIX
> > way of doing things. =)
>
> Oh yes, but why do I have the notion we aren't supposed to be using
> fstab
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 21:09 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> I don't think anyone would contest that /etc/fstab is a very old UNIX
> way of doing things. =)
Oh yes, but why do I have the notion we aren't supposed to be using
fstab for removable media anymore? Google doesn't turn up anything
posit
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 14:54 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> If something like this is going to work for everyone there should be a
> way to pick on a per device or port basis how the device should be
> handled.
There is, and has been for decades. It's called /etc/fstab . Really,
seriously: whether we
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 14:54 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> If something like this is going to work for everyone there should be a
> way to pick on a per device or port basis how the device should be
> handled.
There is, and has been for decades. It's called /etc/fstab . Really,
seriously: whether we
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 18:28 -0400, Al Dunsmuir wrote:
> O
> > This behavior messes up a bunch of scripts I've written that assume the
> > external USB drive "MyBackupDrive" will be hooked up as
> > "/media/MyBackupDrive" no matter who's logged in when it's plugged in.
> > Phooey.
That ain't all th
On 04/17/2012 10:12 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
I just dug in. You can use the "disks" utility in gnome3 to mark your
partitions/drives as automount. This also lets you specify where you
want to mount them, properties etc.
Would love to give that a try. Unfortunately, it coredumps for me on
startup.
On Apr 17, 2012 9:41 AM, "Adam Williamson" @
redhat.com > wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 19:42 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>
> > I just dug in. You can use the "disks" utility in gnome3 to mark your
> > partitions/drives as automount. This also lets you specify where you
> > want to mount them, pro
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 19:42 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> I just dug in. You can use the "disks" utility in gnome3 to mark your
> partitions/drives as automount. This also lets you specify where you
> want to mount them, properties etc.
>
> I think this should be somewhere in the release notes too
>
> Or perhaps the system could keep track of mounted devices and when the
> computer enters the same state as it was in when the device was
> previously mounted, mount it again automatically.
>
> In other words, "If device is mounted for $USER, and $USER logs
> out or the system reboots while
On Mon, 2012-04-16 at 09:42 -0600, Pete wrote:
> On 04/13/2012 07:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > Ankur Sinha (sanjay.an...@gmail.com) said:
> >> On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 19:09 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I just got into F17 today. It looks great. I do have one tiny query
> >>
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 14:05 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
> This behavior messes up a bunch of scripts I've written that assume the
> external USB drive "MyBackupDrive" will be hooked up as
> "/media/MyBackupDrive" no matter who's logged in when it's plugged in.
> Phooey.
Just put an entry in /etc/f
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> FWIW, as KDE user I'm "happy" to note that this seems to be a GNOME thing.
> :-)
The KDE automount framework hasn't been ported to udisks2 yet. It's
still using udisks.
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On 04/13/2012 09:39 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just got into F17 today. It looks great. I do have one tiny query
> though:
>
> my USB media, and other partitions that I mount on-demand are no longer
> showing up in /media. They show up in /run/media/$USER. Can anyone shed
> some light on
the reboot, that DVD is no longer mounted.
Independent of whether the move from /media to /run/media/$USER is a
good idea, and I'm reserving judgment on that, clearly the behavior
I just described above is entirely unexpected by the user and
therefore wrong.
The alternative here would be.
is no longer mounted.
>
> Independent of whether the move from /media to /run/media/$USER is a
> good idea, and I'm reserving judgment on that, clearly the behavior
> I just described above is entirely unexpected by the user and
> therefore wrong.
The alternative here would be...
On 04/13/2012 07:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Ankur Sinha (sanjay.an...@gmail.com) said:
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 19:09 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
Hello,
I just got into F17 today. It looks great. I do have one tiny query
though:
my USB media, and other partitions that I mount on-demand are no l
/media to /run/media/$USER is a
good idea, and I'm reserving judgment on that, clearly the behavior I
just described above is entirely unexpected by the user and therefore wrong.
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:49:20 +0530
Ankur Sinha wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 14:05 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
> > This behavior messes up a bunch of scripts I've written that assume
> > the
> > external USB drive "MyBackupDrive" will be hooked up as
> > "/media/MyBackupDrive" no matter who's log
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 14:05 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
> This behavior messes up a bunch of scripts I've written that assume
> the
> external USB drive "MyBackupDrive" will be hooked up as
> "/media/MyBackupDrive" no matter who's logged in when it's plugged in.
> Phooey.
I have the same issue. Wo
On Friday, April 13, 2012, 3:05:43 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
> On 04/13/2012 12:25 PM, John Reiser wrote:
>> On 04/13/2012 06:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>>> Release notes seem fine. Basically, removable media mounted in the
>>> user's session are now mounted in a user-specific directory.
>>
>> T
> However, they aren't recognized [mounted] at all (not even upon subsequent
> graphical
> login), and this is bad. See
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=722712
> where there is some argument whether udisks2 or gvfs should bear the blame.
Cold- or warm-plugged filesystem devices do
Once upon a time, Steven Stern said:
> On 04/13/2012 12:25 PM, John Reiser wrote:
> > On 04/13/2012 06:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> >> Release notes seem fine. Basically, removable media mounted in the
> >> user's session are now mounted in a user-specific directory.
> >
> > There's still a p
On 04/13/2012 12:25 PM, John Reiser wrote:
> On 04/13/2012 06:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>> Release notes seem fine. Basically, removable media mounted in the
>> user's session are now mounted in a user-specific directory.
>
> There's still a problem: cold-plugged media, or even warm-plugged m
On 04/13/2012 06:48 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Release notes seem fine. Basically, removable media mounted in the
> user's session are now mounted in a user-specific directory.
There's still a problem: cold-plugged media, or even warm-plugged media.
Cold-plugged (before boot) should be mounted
Ankur Sinha (sanjay.an...@gmail.com) said:
> On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 19:09 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just got into F17 today. It looks great. I do have one tiny query
> > though:
> >
> > my USB media, and other partitions that I mount on-demand are no longer
> > showing up in
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 19:09 +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just got into F17 today. It looks great. I do have one tiny query
> though:
>
> my USB media, and other partitions that I mount on-demand are no longer
> showing up in /media. They show up in /run/media/$USER. Can anyone shed
>
Hello,
I just got into F17 today. It looks great. I do have one tiny query
though:
my USB media, and other partitions that I mount on-demand are no longer
showing up in /media. They show up in /run/media/$USER. Can anyone shed
some light on this? Where is this move documented for instance? I've
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