On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 17:46 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
> - but I repeat "I never had", 'cause ine pre-PA years I've been
> using cards with hardware mixing; owners of the cheap integrated
> ones may see that as a benefit, as previous attempts like ESD or
> aRts weren't much better than PA either
On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 16:55 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
> Dne Út 17. dubna 2012 16:36:08, Adam Williamson napsal(a):
> > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 14:36 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
> > > now if there is only one volume control, how do I express
> > > that I want to mute the microphone and set the line-in t
On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 17:46 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
>
> > Either way, file a bug report
>
> that's what I've done
>
> - would you dare to guess what is the reaction?
Not our problem? They have a very good SEP field generator.
> > Yes, there is usually some initial pain when major subsystem
Dne Út 17. dubna 2012 22:02:40, Samuel Sieb napsal(a):
> John Morris wrote:
> > It doesn't. And nobody cares, go buy hardware that works the
> > way Pottering imagines it 'should' work is the closest you
> > will get to real world advice. It doesn't actually exist
> > mind you, so you can't reall
Dne Út 17. dubna 2012 16:36:08, Adam Williamson napsal(a):
> On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 14:36 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
> > now if there is only one volume control, how do I express
> > that I want to mute the microphone and set the line-in to
> > some value?
> PA doesn't treat this as a question of vol
John Morris wrote:
It doesn't. And nobody cares, go buy hardware that works the way
Pottering imagines it 'should' work is the closest you will get to real
world advice. It doesn't actually exist mind you, so you can't really
buy it. You will just have to imagine how wonderful it would be.
It
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 16:13 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 14:36 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
>
> > - how is this supposed to work with "one slider rule them all"
> > type of control?
>
> It doesn't. And nobody cares, go buy hardware that works the way
> Pottering imagines it 's
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 14:36 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
> - how is this supposed to work with "one slider rule them all"
> type of control?
It doesn't. And nobody cares, go buy hardware that works the way
Pottering imagines it 'should' work is the closest you will get to real
world advice. It do
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
>
> If ALSA and pulseaudio worked better together, i.e., they were, between the
> two of them, smart enough to automatically DTRT with the low-level sound
> settings, then there would be no need for anyone but the real audiophiles to
> access
Review request submitted!
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813420
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On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Brendan Jones
wrote:
> On 04/17/2012 06:13 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Brendan Jones
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Qastools is coming to Fedora soon which is Qt based [1]. It is also being
>>> used in the Qt Razor desktop which I hope wil
On 04/17/2012 06:13 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Brendan Jones
wrote:
Qastools is coming to Fedora soon which is Qt based [1]. It is also being
used in the Qt Razor desktop which I hope will make it to Fedora someday
[1] http://xwmw.org/qastools/
Try this:
http:
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Brendan Jones
wrote:
> Qastools is coming to Fedora soon which is Qt based [1]. It is also being
> used in the Qt Razor desktop which I hope will make it to Fedora someday
>
> [1] http://xwmw.org/qastools/
Try this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34775202/qastools/qasto
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Brendan Jones
wrote:
> Qastools is coming to Fedora soon which is Qt based [1]. It is also being
> used in the Qt Razor desktop which I hope will make it to Fedora someday
>
> [1] http://xwmw.org/qastools/
Trying it out now. If I like it I'll submit a Review Requ
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 14:36 +0200, Karel Volný wrote:
> now if there is only one volume control, how do I express that I
> want to mute the microphone and set the line-in to some value?
PA doesn't treat this as a question of volumes but a question of inputs,
or, as GNOME volume control puts it,
You could try xfce4-mixer.
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On 04/17/2012 04:54 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
I've been following this thread with interest so I did some searching
and found alsamixergui which is UGLY. I also found gnome-alsamixer for
Debian/Ubuntu. The upstream seems to be dead but Debian is keeping it
going, probably from lack of an alternativ
I've been following this thread with interest so I did some searching
and found alsamixergui which is UGLY. I also found gnome-alsamixer for
Debian/Ubuntu. The upstream seems to be dead but Debian is keeping it
going, probably from lack of an alternative.
Between the SRPM from ATRPMs (Why is this
Dne Út 17. dubna 2012 07:25:49, Matthias Clasen napsal(a):
> On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:04 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > None of them would. PulseAudio is at a higher level than ALSA
> > and does not actually provide any kind of interface
> > (user-interfacing, or API) for controlling individual
On 4/17/2012 7:25 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Well put Adam, thanks. That being said, we certainly want to provide
enough control to let people use their sound cards. If something is
missing, by all means, let us know. But "I need control on the level of
" is not a very concrete description of wha
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 12:04 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> None of them would. PulseAudio is at a higher level than ALSA and does
> not actually provide any kind of interface (user-interfacing, or API)
> for controlling individual ALSA mixer channels as Jon wants to. It's not
> what PA is _for
On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 19:48 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 04:23:31PM -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> > On 04/15/2012 04:27 PM, stan wrote:
> > >A thought on this. I'm not that familiar with pulseaudio, but some of
> > >these settings *are* available in the pavucontrol a
Dne Ne 15. dubna 2012 12:26:21, stan napsal(a):
> On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:27:26 -0400
>
> Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> > These are not esoteric settings that only audiophiles use. I
> > have to tweak them/regularly/ to get my speakers, headset,
> > and microphone to play nicely together, due to another
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 16:23:31 -0400
Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> On 04/15/2012 04:27 PM, stan wrote:
> > A thought on this. I'm not that familiar with pulseaudio, but some
> > of these settings *are* available in the pavucontrol application.
> > It is a separate package you can install, called, stran
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 13:35:31 -0700
Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> My particular requirement is to control the audio input selection,
> mute, and level on an Asus Xonar sound card. The only thing
> that I found able to control that is "gnome-control-center sound".
>
> Accordingly I have t
On 04/15/2012 09:48 PM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
'yum search pulse' shows, among many other things, these:
paman.x86_64 : Management tool for PulseAudio
paprefs.x86_64 : Management tool for PulseAudio
pavumeter.x86_64 : Volume meter for PulseAudio
Maybe some of these will do what you desire?
N
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 04:23:31PM -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> On 04/15/2012 04:27 PM, stan wrote:
> >A thought on this. I'm not that familiar with pulseaudio, but some of
> >these settings *are* available in the pavucontrol application. It is a
> >separate package you can install, called, st
My particular requirement is to control the audio input selection,
mute, and level on an Asus Xonar sound card. The only thing
that I found able to control that is "gnome-control-center sound".
Accordingly I have to create a launcher on my Xfce desktop.
It would be nice if the ordering of audio
On 04/15/2012 04:27 PM, stan wrote:
A thought on this. I'm not that familiar with pulseaudio, but some of
these settings *are* available in the pavucontrol application. It is a
separate package you can install, called, strangely enough, pavucontrol.
There are other pulse control applications, a
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:27:26 -0400
Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> I understand what you are saying, but you're missing the point. /It
> should not be this hard/ to access detailed sound settings. If Fedora
> is going to use pulseaudio, then pulseaudio needs to provide access
> to these settings.
A th
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:27:26 -0400
Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> These are not esoteric settings that only audiophiles use. I have to
> tweak them/regularly/ to get my speakers, headset, and microphone to
> play nicely together, due to another bug, i.e., that Fedora doesn't
> seem to /remember/ my s
On 04/15/2012 06:27 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
I love a lot of things about Fedora, but one of the things I
absolutely hate is its penchant for ripping out things that work and
replacing them with things that don't have nearly the same
functionality, perhaps with an amorphous functionality to
On 04/15/2012 02:12 PM, stan wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:32:27 -0400
Jonathan Kamens wrote:
In particular, I would like to be able to control things at this
level:
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:32:27 -0400
Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> In particular, I would like to be able to control things at this
> level:
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> Except (a) the alsamixer curses interface is hardly one that's easy
> for random users to find, and (b) even in alsamixer, I have to hi
I finally uninstalled the long-orphaned gmixer RPM when I upgraded
to F17.
I clung to gmixer for far longer than I should have because as far
as I could tell, it was the only GUI which gave me granular access
to sound settings.
I've searched in F17 since uni
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