Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 15:33 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > Why on earth would that be critical? The firewall is just a band-aid. If > it does anything useful, your system was broken (or infected) already. > > Seriously, if there is *any* case where the lack of firewall would be > 'critical', ple

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, David Woodhouse said: > Why on earth would that be critical? The firewall is just a band-aid. If > it does anything useful, your system was broken (or infected) already. There are still a number of network daemons that don't have any practical IP ACL setup. TCP wrappers only ki

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-21 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 21 września 2010 16:33 użytkownik David Woodhouse napisał: > On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 11:56 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> 2010/9/20 Bryn M. Reeves : >> > On 09/20/2010 06:43 AM, Ralph Loader wrote: >> >> >> >>> After all these years, something from the fedora repos >> >>> (the only ones I

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-21 Thread David Woodhouse
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 11:56 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > 2010/9/20 Bryn M. Reeves : > > On 09/20/2010 06:43 AM, Ralph Loader wrote: > >> > >>> After all these years, something from the fedora repos > >>> (the only ones I have active in my F14 partition) is still > >>> creating an (empty) /etc/

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Andre Robatino
Ralph Loader ihug.co.nz> writes: > Looks like it's a minor security hole too: > > $ ls -l /etc/modprobe.conf > -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Jun 27 17:50 /etc/modprobe.conf >^^ Are you seeing this in F14? June 27 is pretty old. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread seth vidal
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 09:53 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > > In the yum.log I see the time on modprobe.conf occurs > > > in a gap in the yum updates: > > > > > > Aug 25 19:37:56 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-aiptek-1.3.1-1.fc14.x86_64 > > > Aug 25 20:02:56 Updated: libgcc-4.5.1-1.fc14.x86_64 > > > > The f

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Tom Horsley
> > In the yum.log I see the time on modprobe.conf occurs > > in a gap in the yum updates: > > > > Aug 25 19:37:56 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-aiptek-1.3.1-1.fc14.x86_64 > > Aug 25 20:02:56 Updated: libgcc-4.5.1-1.fc14.x86_64 > > The fix for https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=589593 was pushed

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/9/20 Tom Horsley : > On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:49:30 +0100 > Adam Williamson wrote: > >> What's the last-touched date of your /etc/modprobe.conf ? Do you know >> when that is in relation to the lifetime of the install? > > Just poking around, I get the impression that it may have > happened near

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Andre Robatino
Tom Horsley gmail.com> writes: > Interesting that on my system at least, the file isn't world > writable. I hadn't noticed that before. Maybe there are multiple > ways it can get created, or maybe some process is inheriting > a umask that might be different? (The /spare partition is where I > hav

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 13:49:30 +0100 Adam Williamson wrote: > What's the last-touched date of your /etc/modprobe.conf ? Do you know > when that is in relation to the lifetime of the install? Just poking around, I get the impression that it may have happened near the first round of updates after I d

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread drago01
2010/9/20 Michał Piotrowski : > 2010/9/20 Bryn M. Reeves : >> On 09/20/2010 01:37 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:56:56 +0200 >>> Michał Piotrowski wrote: >>> You can blacklist the firewall modules - it can be critical :) >>> >>> Actually, I think you can run any arbitrary co

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Andre Robatino
Richard Shaw gmail.com> writes: > I have some anecdotal evidence. I installed F13 (x86_64) on my dad's > computer this weekend. I did not see the empty modprobe.conf until > after I did a kernel update. The only packages I updated was the > kernel and the firmware package at that time. It could

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/9/20 Richard Shaw : > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> So, if this bug is valid as described it's a significant security issue. >> However, I'm not sure it's simple. I've just checked, and none of my F14 >> test spins (basically RC2) have a modprobe.conf booted live.

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/9/20 Bryn M. Reeves : > On 09/20/2010 01:37 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:56:56 +0200 >> Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> >>> You can blacklist the firewall modules - it can be critical :) >> >> Actually, I think you can run any arbitrary command to >> load a module, Or pass any

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > So, if this bug is valid as described it's a significant security issue. > However, I'm not sure it's simple. I've just checked, and none of my F14 > test spins (basically RC2) have a modprobe.conf booted live. The clean > installed system

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 08:35 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:08:43 -0400 > Tom Horsley wrote: > > > After all these years, something from the fedora repos > > (the only ones I have active in my F14 partition) is still > > creating an (empty) /etc/modprobe.conf file. > > Well, I

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 09/20/2010 01:37 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:56:56 +0200 > Michał Piotrowski wrote: > >> You can blacklist the firewall modules - it can be critical :) > > Actually, I think you can run any arbitrary command to > load a module, so it is probably a gigantic security > hole.

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:56:56 +0200 Michał Piotrowski wrote: > You can blacklist the firewall modules - it can be critical :) Actually, I think you can run any arbitrary command to load a module, so it is probably a gigantic security hole. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsu

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:08:43 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > After all these years, something from the fedora repos > (the only ones I have active in my F14 partition) is still > creating an (empty) /etc/modprobe.conf file. Well, I found something with a grep -r of the whole f14 partition :-). https:

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Andre Robatino
Tom Horsley gmail.com> writes: > After all these years, something from the fedora repos > (the only ones I have active in my F14 partition) is still > creating an (empty) /etc/modprobe.conf file. It's definitely not the system-config-network bug, since that's now fixed in everything except F12,

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/9/20 Bryn M. Reeves : > On 09/20/2010 06:43 AM, Ralph Loader wrote: >> >>> After all these years, something from the fedora repos >>> (the only ones I have active in my F14 partition) is still >>> creating an (empty) /etc/modprobe.conf file. >> >> Looks like it's a minor security hole too: > >

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 09/20/2010 06:43 AM, Ralph Loader wrote: > >> After all these years, something from the fedora repos >> (the only ones I have active in my F14 partition) is still >> creating an (empty) /etc/modprobe.conf file. > > Looks like it's a minor security hole too: Not sure I'd call that minor consid

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-19 Thread Ralph Loader
> After all these years, something from the fedora repos > (the only ones I have active in my F14 partition) is still > creating an (empty) /etc/modprobe.conf file. Looks like it's a minor security hole too: $ ls -l /etc/modprobe.conf -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 Jun 27 17:50 /etc/modprobe.conf

Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-19 Thread Tom Horsley
After all these years, something from the fedora repos (the only ones I have active in my F14 partition) is still creating an (empty) /etc/modprobe.conf file. Maybe abrtd should add a special inotify thread that watches /etc/ for a modprobe.conf file being created :-). -- test mailing list test@l