Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-10-13 Thread Dennis Gilmore
El Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:05:31 -0700 Adam Williamson escribió: > On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 03:00 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: > > On 30 September 2011 20:23, Adam Williamson > > wrote: > > > > > So this discussion seems to have stalled. Tim and I are both > > > ambivalent, and we got three responses that

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-10-11 Thread Justin M. Forbes
On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 02:38:02PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > It's not so much a question of 'do we have the resources in place to > probably make sure it works at release time' but 'is it a terrible > disaster if we make a release in which it's broken'. That's what the > release validation pr

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-10-07 Thread Tim Flink
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 14:38:02 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 16:02 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > > > It's not so much a question of 'do we have the resources in place to > probably make sure it works at release time' but 'is it a terrible > disaster if we make a rel

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-10-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 16:02 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > > What's necessary to make it a release blocker is not so much 'it'd be > > nice if it worked' arguments - I think in general everyone agrees it'd > > be nice if it worked :) - but more 'it would be terrible to release > > without i

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-10-05 Thread Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 10:05:31PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 03:00 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: > > On 30 September 2011 20:23, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > So this discussion seems to have stalled. Tim and I are both ambivalent, > > > and we got three responses that w

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-10-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 03:00 +0100, Andy Burns wrote: > On 30 September 2011 20:23, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > So this discussion seems to have stalled. Tim and I are both ambivalent, > > and we got three responses that were positive but tentative or from > > 'interested parties' (no offence :>)

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-10-03 Thread Andy Burns
On 30 September 2011 20:23, Adam Williamson wrote: > So this discussion seems to have stalled. Tim and I are both ambivalent, > and we got three responses that were positive but tentative or from > 'interested parties' (no offence :>). Does anyone who doesn't have skin > in the game have an opini

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-10-03 Thread Norman Gaywood
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 01:18:20PM -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 01:22:38PM +1100, Norman Gaywood wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:23:08PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 10:41 -0600, Tim Flink wrote: > > > > Specifically, do we want to

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-10-03 Thread Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
On Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 01:22:38PM +1100, Norman Gaywood wrote: > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:23:08PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 10:41 -0600, Tim Flink wrote: > > > Specifically, do we want to have Xen DomU support as a final release > > > criteria? > > Just my 2c. I us

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-10-01 Thread Norman Gaywood
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:23:08PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 10:41 -0600, Tim Flink wrote: > > Specifically, do we want to have Xen DomU support as a final release > > criteria? Just my 2c. I use Fedora Xen DomU and will be hoping to run F16 that way when it's released.

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-09-30 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:23:08PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > It might be good to consider use cases too. One particular one is EC2: > I've heard that EC2 guests are Xen instances but I'm not entirely sure > about the details. Is this the case? i.e. if a Fedora release didn't > boot in X

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-09-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 10:41 -0600, Tim Flink wrote: > During the discussion around Xen DomU support as a beta release > criterion in the Fedora QA meeting today, the question of blocking for > DomU came up. > > Specifically, do we want to have Xen DomU support as a final release > criteria? > > I

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-09-26 Thread Andy Burns
On 26 September 2011 17:41, Tim Flink wrote: > Specifically, do we want to have Xen DomU support as a final release > criteria? I would certainly appreciate it, it it was. I used to run Fedora with Xen up until the dom0 removal (I understand the reasons why that happened and I've also noticed th

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-09-26 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:17:38AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Anyhow, thoughts around making DomU support a final release criterion? > > I'm kinda ambivalent. I can see the 'should be fixed by install time' > argument but that doesn't quite count as a compelling argument for > making

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-09-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 10:41 -0600, Tim Flink wrote: > During the discussion around Xen DomU support as a beta release > criterion in the Fedora QA meeting today, the question of blocking for > DomU came up. > > Specifically, do we want to have Xen DomU support as a final release > criteria? > > I

Re: Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-09-26 Thread Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:41:00AM -0600, Tim Flink wrote: > During the discussion around Xen DomU support as a beta release > criterion in the Fedora QA meeting today, the question of blocking for > DomU came up. > > Specifically, do we want to have Xen DomU support as a final release > criteria?

Final Release Criterion for Xen DomU

2011-09-26 Thread Tim Flink
During the discussion around Xen DomU support as a beta release criterion in the Fedora QA meeting today, the question of blocking for DomU came up. Specifically, do we want to have Xen DomU support as a final release criteria? I can think of two arguments for making it a release criterion: 1. I