Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/24/2012 08:12 PM, Karel Volný wrote: >> I believe what he wants is a locale where LC_MESSAGES= gives a >> variable that results in imperial measurements being defined. >> If that isn't what he wants/needs I would hope he would tell >> us. > s/LC_MESSAGES/LC_MEASUREMENT/ > Thanks for the cor

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-24 Thread Karel Volný
> I believe what he wants is a locale where LC_MESSAGES= gives a > variable that results in imperial measurements being defined. > If that isn't what he wants/needs I would hope he would tell > us. s/LC_MESSAGES/LC_MEASUREMENT/ K. -- Karel Volný QE BaseOs/Daemons Team Red Hat Czech, Brno tel. +

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
Ed Greshko wrote: Just wondering Do you think it would be a better idea to go the "custom" route as explained in the link you've provided? There is a chance that the files being modified may at some point get overwritten by an update. I would recommend creating a custom locale, but it

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/24/2012 05:51 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >> >> Just for the record, I edited the file in situ and then re-booted. For such a >> trivial change in a test environment I see no need for copying, although I >> accept your point in the general case. >> > Turns out that the

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Just for the record, I edited the file in situ and then re-booted. For such a trivial change in a test environment I see no need for copying, although I accept your point in the general case. Turns out that there's an extra step required as all those files are compile

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/24/2012 01:26 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > To change the locale settings that are being discussed here in GNOME, > you can run gnome-control-center region formats (or navigate there > manually in the UI). > > Hope that helps I feel you need to go back and reread the posts. The question is

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-23 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 16:22 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > On 23/04/12 15:19, Ed Greshko wrote: > [cut] > > > > Of course the OP is only asking for one change to satisfy himself. > > He isn't asking what you've suggested. And, he hasn't suggested that > > a bugzilla or RFE needs filing to cha

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-23 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 22/04/12 21:29, Samuel Sieb wrote: Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: It looks like there isn't a gui for it any more, but see this URL for how to change it: http://ccollins.wordpress.com/2009/01/06/how-to-change-date-formats-on-ubuntu/ You want to change the 1 in the following section to a 2. LC_M

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-23 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 23/04/12 15:19, Ed Greshko wrote: [cut] Of course the OP is only asking for one change to satisfy himself. He isn't asking what you've suggested. And, he hasn't suggested that a bugzilla or RFE needs filing to change the current behavior. So, how about focusing on what he wants for himself?

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/23/2012 08:52 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 16:52 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >> On 21/04/12 12:55, Ed Greshko wrote: >> [cut] >>> Well, I check GNOME and I found that if you click on your name in the upper >>> right and >>> choose System Settings you can choose "R

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2012-04-21 at 16:52 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > On 21/04/12 12:55, Ed Greshko wrote: > [cut] > > > > Well, I check GNOME and I found that if you click on your name in the upper > > right and > > choose System Settings you can choose "Region and Language" and change the > > layout.

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-22 Thread Samuel Sieb
Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: It looks like there isn't a gui for it any more, but see this URL for how to change it: http://ccollins.wordpress.com/2009/01/06/how-to-change-date-formats-on-ubuntu/ You want to change the 1 in the following section to a 2. LC_MEASUREMENT measurement 1 END LC_MEASUREM

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-22 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 22/04/12 02:09, Samuel Sieb wrote: Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Exactly the problem! I'm not French and I want English measurements to be the default for United Kingdom locale settings. It looks like there isn't a gui for it any more, but see this URL for how to change it: http://ccollins.wo

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/22/2012 05:31 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >> On 04/21/2012 11:52 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >>> Exactly the problem! I'm not French and I want English measurements to be >>> the >>> default for United Kingdom locale settings. >> >> I'll give that some thought after I wake up. 4AM

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Exactly the problem! I'm not French and I want English measurements to be the default for United Kingdom locale settings. It looks like there isn't a gui for it any more, but see this URL for how to change it: http://ccollins.wordpress.com/2009/01/06/how-to-change-d

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/22/2012 05:31 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > I did and found the opportunity to change the default, but received a > "forbidden" > response when I tried. I'm a member of the 'lp' group so I'm stumped > presently, but > onward and upward. Just use "root" -- Never be afraid to laugh at

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-21 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 21/04/12 21:05, Ed Greshko wrote: On 04/21/2012 11:52 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Exactly the problem! I'm not French and I want English measurements to be the default for United Kingdom locale settings. I'll give that some thought after I wake up. 4AM you see Thanks. I apprec

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/21/2012 11:52 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > Exactly the problem! I'm not French and I want English measurements to be the > default for United Kingdom locale settings. I'll give that some thought after I wake up. 4AM you see > > > 2.I installed an HP printer via the Prin

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-21 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 21/04/12 12:55, Ed Greshko wrote: [cut] Well, I check GNOME and I found that if you click on your name in the upper right and choose System Settings you can choose "Region and Language" and change the layout. Picking United Kingdom (English) results in picking Metric. Exactly the problem!

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On 21/04/12 14:36, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 14:33:04 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: I believe that was what happened. Is Gnome 3.4 on F16? I had more of a problem with the tone of the suggestions, than whether reasking on the test list was a good idea. Here's what I wrot

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 14:33:04 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: I believe that was what happened. Is Gnome 3.4 on F16? I had more of a problem with the tone of the suggestions, than whether reasking on the test list was a good idea. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On 21/04/12 14:18, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:11:35 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Hello list, Having been chastised for posting the following on the "Users" list - in my ignorance - I'm repeating it here: People are going a bit overboard with that. Really they shou

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 11:11:35 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Hello list, Having been chastised for posting the following on the "Users" list - in my ignorance - I'm repeating it here: People are going a bit overboard with that. Really they should be suggesting the test list because y

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/21/2012 07:35 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > On 21/04/12 11:48, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 04/21/2012 06:11 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >>> >>> I've just installed the beta in a VM so as to evaluate GNOME 3.4 (and >>> Fedora-17 as >>> well). Two irritating issues have emerged that would be

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-21 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 21/04/12 11:48, Ed Greshko wrote: On 04/21/2012 06:11 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: I've just installed the beta in a VM so as to evaluate GNOME 3.4 (and Fedora-17 as well). Two irritating issues have emerged that would be show stoppers, if incapable of resolution. They are: 1. I choose

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/21/2012 06:11 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > > I've just installed the beta in a VM so as to evaluate GNOME 3.4 (and > Fedora-17 as > well). Two irritating issues have emerged that would be show stoppers, if > incapable > of resolution. They are: > > 1. I choose United Kingdom (English) f

Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-21 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
Hello list, Having been chastised for posting the following on the "Users" list - in my ignorance - I'm repeating it here: I've just installed the beta in a VM so as to evaluate GNOME 3.4 (and Fedora-17 as well). Two irritating issues have emerged that would be show stoppers, if incapable of