Re: new criterion proposal: core kickstart commands

2012-12-06 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, 6 Dec 2012, Adam Williamson wrote: I'm less concerned about changes in anaconda's UI if I know kickstart will continue functioning. Do I see two volunteers to help fix kickstart bugs? :) You see two people who are representative of the majority of linux users in the world - speci

Re: new criterion proposal: core kickstart commands

2012-12-06 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, 6 Dec 2012, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 09:39:41PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: I think that may be the case _now_ with our current Anaconda situation, but the more I think about it, the more strongly I feel about making this the approach for future releases. When

Re: post install very slooow

2012-11-11 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012, drago01 wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 4:42 PM, John Reiser wrote: I noticed the post install processing in f16 lasted only a few seconds, not the seemingly interminable wait a Fedora 18 install takes. If you have many partitions, then the grub2 operating system probe

Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-08-31 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 17:15 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:03:44 -0700 > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > it would probably help to know what *was* in the update set. > > OK, from yum.log: > while in this case yum.log is fine. I would like to encourage you to use the yum hi

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-26 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 15:15 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > yum --setopt="protected_multilib=0" blah blah blah > > > > which might help in situations where things are already deeply sideways. > > worth noting for the record that, as always when using 'force' type > parameters to a package

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-25 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 14:28 -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 02:20:12PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > > > Dunno if that helps anybody... never a dull moment... > > > > When upgrading rawhide from X - use screen. > > and also when upg

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-25 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 11:12 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:08:52 -0400 > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > > Error: Protected multilib versions: > > > gnome-panel-libs-3.1.5-2.fc16.x86_64 != > > > gnome-panel-libs-3.0.2-3.fc16.i686 > > > > > > > I have no idea what these er

Re: persistent gnome dep problems (F16 alpha rc3-5, alpha), --skip-broken wants to haul in 32-bit libs

2011-08-24 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 13:09 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:26:44 +0100 > Richard Hughes wrote: > > > I'm seriously wondering if multilib is worth all this hassle... > > Oh I've never wondered that: It has clearly never been a good > idea. Starting with the total lack of docume

Re: F16 - why yum distro-sync wants to downgrade ?

2011-08-24 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 09:24 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 06:40 +, JB wrote: > > Hi, > > > > could you please interpret what is happening here - why the downgrades ? > > > > $ cat /etc/fedora-release > > Fedora release 16

Re: F16 - why yum distro-sync wants to downgrade ?

2011-08-24 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 06:40 +, JB wrote: > Hi, > > could you please interpret what is happening here - why the downgrades ? > > $ cat /etc/fedora-release > Fedora release 16 (Verne) > > $ yum repolist enabled > ... > repo id repo name statu

Re: New BugZapper Introduction

2011-06-10 Thread seth vidal
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 12:06 -0400, Mathieu Bouffard wrote: > On 06/10/2011 11:08 AM, Nick Jacek wrote: > > My name is Nick Jacek. This summer I'm an intern at Red Hat, where I'll be > > working on yum. > > Congrats and welcome. :P > Will you be working on the yum bacon command per chance? Mathie

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

2011-05-31 Thread seth vidal
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 08:56 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 01:45, Pasha R wrote: > > Care to explain the logic behind this? Because it is really beyond my > > understanding. > > No, I don't. Your attitude is too antagonistic. I don't think there is anything antagonisti

Re: Fedora 14 updates-testing report

2011-04-20 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 14:43 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > seth vidal wrote: > > wasteful to what? > > When I create updates in the future should I make them hundreds of lines > long like I'm in detention at school, too? I don't like resulting to > sarcasm, b

Re: Fedora 14 updates-testing report

2011-04-20 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 14:35 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > upda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: > > > > cobbler-2.0.11-1.fc14 (FEDORA-2011-5680) > > Boot server configurator > > ---

Re: yum reinstall using non-identical packages with same EVR

2011-02-26 Thread seth vidal
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 12:38 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > Starting with the current F14 deltarpm src rpm, I used rpmbuild to build > binary > rpms that use the new F15 xz compression. These have the same EVR as the > standard F14 binary rpms but require liblzma.so.5 instead of liblzma.so.0. In >

Re: Yum distro-sync makes more problems than solves

2011-02-12 Thread seth vidal
On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 22:34 +0100, Adam Pribyl wrote: > On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > Absolutely. Please do improve the page. ;) > > Done. > > > > >> IMHO there are three problems: > >> 1. keys needs to be imported per distro version > >> 2. "yum clean all" can not be followe

Re: Skip-broken could not solve problems

2011-01-09 Thread seth vidal
On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 21:59 +, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2011-01-09 at 21:03 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > > When running "yum --skip-broken update" and getting this message (currently > > in > > Rawhide), should it always be considered a bug and reported? > > Depends what you mean. I

Re: rawhide report: 20110107 changes

2011-01-07 Thread seth vidal
On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 18:06 +0100, Thomas Spura wrote: > On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:01:17 -0500 > seth vidal wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 09:35 -0500, Andre Robatino wrote: > > > Updating python on x86_64 tries to pull in 32-bit packages > > > (including one i3

Re: rawhide report: 20110107 changes

2011-01-07 Thread seth vidal
On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 09:35 -0500, Andre Robatino wrote: > Updating python on x86_64 tries to pull in 32-bit packages (including > one i386): > > [r...@localhost ~]# yum update python > Loaded plugins: downloadonly, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit, > security > Adding en_US to language list

Re: yum update and zif

2011-01-05 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 16:54 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 05:09:30PM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 05, 2011 04:32:02 pm Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > > This is from a changelog of yum-3.2.28-16.fc15: > > > *

Re: broken less

2010-12-23 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 16:54 +0100, MichaƂ Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > less-436-7.fc14.x86_64 seems to be broken - anyone else see it? > but is it broken LESS or broken MORE? Zing! sorry, couldn't resist. -sv -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.f

Re: Preupgrade change?

2010-11-01 Thread seth vidal
On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:21 -0400, James Laska wrote: > On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 11:11 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 19:26 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > > > On 30 October 2010 19:48, Paul Frields wrote: > > > > * > > > > https://fedo

Re: Preupgrade change?

2010-11-01 Thread seth vidal
On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 19:26 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 30 October 2010 19:48, Paul Frields wrote: > > * > > https://fedorahosted.org/preupgrade/changeset?new=data%40d42e6189dbe4ad7591d422f200a31ad196125dcc&old=data%404157e81ce428be819a957a31be5a19bcc6bd2efe > > Shouldn't Rawhide always st

Re: Anybody has problems too with totem in F14?

2010-10-01 Thread seth vidal
On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 14:22 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 14:15 -0500, John Watzke wrote: > > Actually I misspoke it's gtk2 that was changed not glib2. So I > > wonder if this is glib2 related at all since these packages fix the > > problem. > > are you sure you didn't

Re: why does "yum distro-sync" downgrade pidgin.i686 0:2.7.3-1.fc14 and libpurple.i686 0:2.7.3-1.fc14

2010-09-22 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 16:54 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > sudo egrep 'pidgin|libpurple' /var/log/yum.log > Aug 07 09:41:32 Installed: pidgin-2.7.2-1.fc14.i686 > Aug 13 07:14:40 Updated: libpurple-2.7.3-1.fc14.i686 > Aug 13 07:15:05 Updated: pidgin-2.7.3-1.fc14.i686 > Sep 22 16:22:00 Installed: li

Re: why does "yum distro-sync" downgrade pidgin.i686 0:2.7.3-1.fc14 and libpurple.i686 0:2.7.3-1.fc14

2010-09-22 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 16:38 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > I runned because of curiosity reasons the command > > yum distro-sync, > > and this command downgraded the installed pidgin.i686 0:2.7.3-1.fc14 and > libpurple.i686 0:2.7.3-1.fc14 to > pidgin.i686 0:2.7.2-1.fc14 and libpurple.i686 0:2.7.

Re: Question: how to keep /var/lib/yum/plugins/local small?

2010-09-20 Thread seth vidal
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 15:45 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 20/09/10 14:16, seth vidal wrote: > > repomanage -o /var/lib/yum/plugins/local | xargs rm -f > > Could this be added as a start up script? > in /etc/rc.local up to you, but there's no reason it couldn't be.

Re: Question: how to keep /var/lib/yum/plugins/local small?

2010-09-20 Thread seth vidal
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 16:22 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 09/20/2010 03:16 PM, seth vidal wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 09:28 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > >> On 09/15/2010 08:04 AM, Steven Haigh wrote: > >>> What plugins do you have installed? I only get: &g

Re: Grrr... modprobe.conf

2010-09-20 Thread seth vidal
On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 09:53 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > > In the yum.log I see the time on modprobe.conf occurs > > > in a gap in the yum updates: > > > > > > Aug 25 19:37:56 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-aiptek-1.3.1-1.fc14.x86_64 > > > Aug 25 20:02:56 Updated: libgcc-4.5.1-1.fc14.x86_64 > > > > The f

Re: Question: how to keep /var/lib/yum/plugins/local small?

2010-09-20 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 09:28 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > On 09/15/2010 08:04 AM, Steven Haigh wrote: > > What plugins do you have installed? I only get: > > > > # pwd > > /var/lib/yum > > # du -hs * > > 1.2Mhistory > > 0 rpmdb-indexes > > 4.0Kuuid > > 9.0Myumdb > > >

Re: heads-up: upstart reversion coming soon

2010-09-16 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 11:51 +0100, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 18:41 -0400, Richard Ryniker wrote: > > > since the current justification for having stable releases at all > > > is 'to handle upgrade cases we can't handle with yum' > > > > What about installation from media such

Re: nss in updates-testing - more problems

2010-09-16 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 10:24 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 09/16/2010 09:48 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > So, you should not have installed nss-tools.i686 manually. > > Ah - but yum update did not work without installing it. I imagine when > I added the i686 libs - I did not do it right ...

Re: Why was a kernel-2.6.34 pushed to updates that had un-addressed bugs. / Every OS sucks!

2010-09-08 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 23:18 -0500, John Morris wrote: > Sorry everyone, time to vent. > > Bah. This is why I just blocked kernel updates in the first place. > Tried updating now things are worse due to a bad combination of > Fedora policy multiplied by my own stupidity. I KNEW you were suppo

Re: Which bugzilla component?

2010-09-08 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 10:07 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > I tried to run virt-manager as a regular user on a machine that does not > have it installed. > > $ virt-manager > Command not found. > * Cancelling.. The transaction failed: internal-error, The backend > exited unexpectedly. This is

Re: Where is runlevel 5?

2010-08-26 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 08:36 -0500, Adam Miller wrote: > I disagree, there really is only so much we as an internet based > community can do to help the users and publicly providing the > documentation in multiple outlets is about as good as it gets. I don't > have everyone's phone number who downl

Re: bizarre yum

2010-08-11 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 23:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > 1-updated F13/KDE system this AM. > > 2-cloned the F13 partition to another partition > > 3-changed the clone's UUID > > 4-adjusted the clone's grub.conf & fstab, then booted it > > 5-rpm -Uvh fedora-release-14-0.7.noarch.rpm > > 6-yum up

Re: F13 > F14-Br with Yum

2010-08-02 Thread seth vidal
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 09:44 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > XFCE > Although Yum updated to F14-Br, it stayed with py2.6 > Had to use rpm\yum\apt to get a full working py2.7 system. > > If enough interest I cut put it up somewhere. > I'm curious what the process looked like that required the use of

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 10:24 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > "AJ" == Adam Jackson writes: > > AJ> Do people really not do VNC installs? > > Since everyone else is chiming in... I have never done anything other > than VNC installs. I'm not even sure what a regular install looks like.

Re: QA recommendations for F-14

2010-06-24 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 08:05 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 09:48 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > > > > I'd really rather not, it's still necessary in quite a lot of cases. My > > > laptop, fr'instance, where intel or nouveau (or both, depending which > > > graphics adapter you