Re: Updating the applications and launchers policy

2017-05-22 Thread Michael Catanzaro
At today's blocker meeting, Stephen suggested that this rule is somewhat out of place in our applications and launchers policy, which is a fair point. We decided to go with his suggestion instead, which is to not modify any policy and simply declare it a blocker.

Re: Updating the applications and launchers policy

2017-05-22 Thread Michael Catanzaro
I forgot to include the exact text that I'm planning to add. It would be: "App launchers installed by default MUST be approved by the Workstation WG." See also: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/15 Michael ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.f

Updating the applications and launchers policy

2017-05-22 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, Currently we have the following as a final blocker criterion: "All applications installed by default in Fedora Workstation must comply with each MUST and MUST NOT guideline in the Applications and Launchers policy." That policy is: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Guidelines/Appli

Re: Fedora-21a -

2014-11-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 13:09 -0500, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > I have an updated F-21 alpha that is working well. Is it any > different > than F-21 beta and eventually the final release? I can think of two differences: * Alpha and beta users have updates-testing enabled, so you wi

Re: Fedora 21 - Unallocated space undetected

2014-11-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 08:26 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > AIUI that's by design. Partitioned space is not 'free' by anaconda's > definition, and anaconda will not just assume you don't care about the > partition and reallocate it. 'Free space' only refers to *unallocated* > space. Well in genera

Re: Beta / Final release criteria for Workstation

2014-10-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 09:50 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > That sounds workable, so long as someone's actually making sure we > *do* > comply with those. Has anyone checked that yet? I'd rather not throw > it > in the criteria and then have to fudge it immediately :) Salutations, A bit late I kn

Blocker bugs app links to F19 release criteria

2014-10-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
The blocker bugs app [1] seems to have hardcoded links to outdated release criteria. Not sure where to file a bug [1] https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/propose_bug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Question about the gnome3 restart dialog

2014-10-03 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2014-10-03 at 10:51 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > So, how to get more info about this updates? pkcon get-transactions (Look at the very bottom of the output.) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubs

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-10-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 17:40 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I have now updated this in the Fedora 21 Final Release Criteria: > https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Fedora_21_Final_Release_Criteria&diff=390099&oldid=374841 I think the proposed OS X criterion is also uncontroversial: "The in

Re: Beta / Final release criteria for Workstation

2014-09-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 09:50 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > That sounds workable, so long as someone's actually making sure we > *do* > comply with those. Has anyone checked that yet? I'd rather not throw > it > in the criteria and then have to fudge it immediately :) I don't think all apps are cu

Re: Beta / Final release criteria for Workstation

2014-09-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
"All applications installed by default in Fedora Workstation must comply with each MUST and MUST NOT guideline in the Applications and Launchers policy." [1] (This is already mentioned at the very bottom of the policy.) On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 17:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > We don't really ha

Re: [Test-Announce] 2014-09-22 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2014-09-22 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, 2014-09-21 at 19:55 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > * Anything else? The dual boot release criteria? Would be nice to get those finalized as soon as possible. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

NetworkManager git snapshots

2014-09-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 11:57 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > F20 have NetworkManager-0.9.9.0-44.git20131003.fc20 and F21 have > NetworkManager-0.9.10.0-6.git20140704.fc21 Why are we still shipping git snapshots for such a critical system component? If these versions are good enough for other distros,

Re: gnome-terminal in F21 has no TAB feature

2014-09-16 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2014-09-16 at 16:17 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > What's really strange is that there's now Ctrl-Click to make the > opposite > choice of what "Open Terminal" is set to do by default. In particular, > if > you have the default choice of opening in a new window, and hold down > the > Ctrl k

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-09-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Chris, Your revisions seem fine to me. Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-09-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 01:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > For the Linux criterion, how about this: > > > > "The installer must be able to install into free space alongside > > existing GNU/Linux installations supported by the upstream software for > > detecting previously-installed operating s

Re: Is there a reason gnome documents wasn't part of the test day?

2014-09-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 12:56 +1000, Ankur Sinha wrote: > I'm just going to drop a mail to the desktop list to get their > attention > on these bugs. At the moment, switching to gnome-documents rather than > the traditional folder based organisation method is a disappointing > experience. :/ GNOME D

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-09-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2014-09-01 at 21:46 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > I think the language you have is functional, it just needs a delimiter > establishing our purview. Although, I'd suggest the size of the > distribution doesn't matter, if we nerf someone's system because of > something we're not doing correct

Re: after update, suddenly gnome-screenshot won't start

2014-08-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2014-08-28 at 19:30 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > rawhide. The desktop file is correct; it launches gnome-screenshot --interactive. So the program itself is indeed broken. I notice it works when running from a terminal. Odd. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed mes

Re: after update, suddenly gnome-screenshot won't start

2014-08-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2014-08-28 at 22:16 +0200, drago01 wrote: > Yeah but the desktop file should run it in interactive mode (can't > check right now if it indeed does that). Yup. Robert, are you running Fedora 20, Fedora 21, or rawhide? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part --

Re: X-GNOME-SingleWindow=true

2014-08-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2014-08-28 at 15:46 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Seems we (at Fedora) need to take action then and modify the .desktop > files appropriately and request the modification to be applied > upstream, > too. Not all upstreams use the GNOME Shell, and not all upstreams > would > learn about t

Re: Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-08-25 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, 2014-08-24 at 22:00 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > Is this criteria intended for final (as opposed to alpha or beta)? I think it'd be most appropriate as a beta or final criterion. I'm not sure which of those would be best. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message p

Proposing new dual booting release criteria

2014-08-24 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi all, There's been some discussion on the desktop list, beginning at [1], about Workstation's requirements for dual booting in F21. The Workstation technical specification says the following: "One aspect of storage configuration that will be needed is support for dual-boot setups (preserving pr