Re: Draft SOP for requesting TCs/RCs

2012-03-13 Thread James Laska
- Original Message - > On Tue, 2012-03-13 at 22:29 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > Great to see this come together, thanks for the cc. The page looks > > great. It does a good job of describing what a TC and RC are, and > > the > > "whys" for requ

Re: Draft SOP for requesting TCs/RCs

2012-03-13 Thread James Laska
- Original Message - > Hey, folks. > > So I've been doing the TC / RC requests for a while, and James did > them > before that. It occurred to me that while it's theoretically > 'obvious' > how this happens, and mostly defined by the release validation > process, > in practice it's probabl

Re: unable to run tests requiring "updates=http://jlaska.fedorapeople.org/updates/traceback.img" option

2012-02-21 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 04:55 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: > > > 2. Ask Anaconda team to provide us with their "official" and > > > supported solution. > > > > > > After inspecting updates.img, there is a lot of code copied from > > > (some old version of) anaconda. That doesn't seem to me as a good >

Re: absence of images/ on 16

2011-08-11 Thread James Laska
- Original Message - > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 07:49:28AM -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 12:19 -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > > I've been mirroring 16 trees locally for a while now, and don't > > > recall there being a single day yet that there has been an images/ > > >

Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

2011-08-10 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 17:25 +0200, Gianluca Sforna wrote: > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:01 PM, James Laska wrote: > > The best > > option at this time might be to install Fedora 15, while adding the > > Fedora 16 branched repos during install. > > I've just done th

Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

2011-08-09 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 11:44 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2011/08/09 10:01 (GMT-0400) James Laska composed: > > > I checked in with the kind folks in #anaconda ... for fresh Fedora 16 > > installations, only grub2 will be used. > > Then there needs to be an option

Re: grub instead of grub2 in F16?

2011-08-09 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 09:08 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On 08/09/2011 02:50 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 23:59 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > >> Can grub be passed to the installer to prevent grub2 being used as the > >> bootloader? > > > > no. but you could do package

2011-08-05 - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #4 - recap

2011-08-05 Thread James Laska
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-08-05/f16-blocker-review.2011-08-05-17.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-08-05/f16-blocker-review.2011-08-05-17.00.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-08-05

Re: Post-TC1 strategizin'

2011-08-04 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 22:00 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 08/04/2011 08:51 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Don't quite see what you mean. We're behind because the TC1 images > > were delayed by a week, that's pretty much it. The shape they're in > > when they arrive is a function of the develope

[Test-Announce] 2011-08-05 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #4

2011-08-04 Thread James Laska
# F16 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #4 # Date: 2011-08-05 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT, 10:00 MST) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net Mark your calendars ... the fourth Alpha blocker review meeting starts at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers this Friday. We'll review p

Re: FC16 Alpha testing

2011-08-04 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 11:23 +0530, Srinivasa Narayanappa wrote: > Hello All, Hi Srinivasa, Thanks for participating in testing TC1! > I have tried to install the FC16 Alpha TC1 on VMWare virtual machine, > after selecting the hard disk for the portioning getting the error > message as "no usable

Re: Post-TC1 strategizin'

2011-08-04 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 21:21 -0500, John Watzke wrote: > Honestly I rather having the extra TC build to weed out any potential > blocker that could arise during fixing and spinning of the known blockers. > I've seen that happen in the past and an extra spin can help make sure RC is > better at the s

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2011-08-02 Thread James Laska
On Mon, 2011-08-01 at 18:16 -0400, Andre Robatino wrote: > As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Alpha Test Compose 1 > (TC1) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for > download links and testing instructions. In general, official live > images arrive a few hours afte

2011-08-01 - Fedora QA meeting - recap

2011-08-01 Thread James Laska
== #fedora-meeting: fedora-qa-meeting == Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-01/fedora-qa-meeting.2011-08-01-15.10.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-01/fedora-qa-

2011-08-01 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA meeting - call for topics

2011-07-31 Thread James Laska
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2011-08-01 # Time: 15:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! This is a reminder of the upcoming QA meeting tomorrow. I drafted an initial agenda based on the pr

2011-07-29 - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #3 - recap

2011-07-29 Thread James Laska
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-07-29/f16-alpha-blocker-review.2011-07-29-17.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-07-29/f16-alpha-blocker-review.2011-07-29-17.00.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2

Re: using dl instead of serverbeach1 for test matrix page download links

2011-07-29 Thread James Laska
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 07:55 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:16:17 -0400 > James Laska wrote: > > > Thanks for the heads up Andre. Is dl.fp.org a distinct server, > > different than alt. and serverbeach1.? Or is it some mirrormanager > > magic that

Re: Review and notification of blocker bugs

2011-07-29 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 14:52 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I'm currently surveying the QA release calendar: > > http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-quality-tasks.html > > to check we have SOPs for all tasks on it. As part of that, a couple of > tasks have emerged that we don't r

Re: using dl instead of serverbeach1 for test matrix page download links

2011-07-29 Thread James Laska
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 00:31 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > After discussing with smooge and nirik on #fedora-admin, decided to change the > 16 Alpha TC1 test matrix pages to use dl.fp.o instead of serverbeach1.fp.o and > alt.fp.o for download links. If no problems are seen, the template pages can

Re: Proposed Alpha criteria adjustments

2011-07-27 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 17:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 14:35 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > > The asymmetry there was intentional and I sort of like it; I think it's > > > a bigger problem if we install to your type of storage then shut it

Re: Proposed Alpha criteria adjustments

2011-07-27 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 23:34 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 07:56 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > > We also need a test case for this, of course. > > > > Good point. Unless anyone else wants a shot at it, I'll draft something > > up s

Re: Proposed Alpha criteria adjustments

2011-07-26 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 10:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 07:56 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > > s,systems',system's,g > > > > Doh, thanks :) > > > > > I think we don't really need reboot to work; shut down and th

RE: [Fedora QA] #217: Check install process runs unattended in kickstart install validation test case

2011-07-26 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 16:17 +0300, Frederick William New wrote: > Perhaps the same text could be copied into all test cases in Kickstart > Delivery - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Kickstart_Delivery I've made the proposed change to all kickstart tests linked in the above category. Thanks

RE: [Fedora QA] #217: Check install process runs unattended in kickstart install validation test case

2011-07-26 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 18:45 +0800, He Rui wrote: > On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 11:30 +0300, Frederick William New wrote: > > > Comment: > > > > > > Replying to [comment:1 rhe]: > > > > Agree. add a expected result in each kickstart test like: > > > > > > > > * > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Q

Re: Small improvement to blocker meeting SOP: note that decision can be delayed

2011-07-26 Thread James Laska
On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 19:59 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I made a small change to the blocker meeting SOP - > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting#Review_Proposed_Blocker_Bugs > - just to make it explicit that it's okay to delay the decision on a bug if > needed informatio

Re: Proposed Alpha criteria adjustments

2011-07-26 Thread James Laska
On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 21:12 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 16:08 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > The installer must be able to complete an installation using the > > entire disk, existing free space, or existing Linux partitions > >

Re: 2011-07-25 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting - need #chair

2011-07-25 Thread James Laska
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 14:24 -0400, James Laska wrote: > Unfortunately, I have a conflict with the scheduled meeting time > tomorrow. Is someone else available to #chair the meeting? Just a reminder, I have a conflict with the scheduled meeting time today. I haven't heard if anyone i

Nightly livecd creation fail - libcamel.so

2011-07-25 Thread James Laska
Greetings gang, I noticed that the nightly live image build failed [1]. I spoke with mclasen on IRC and it seems to be a result of a recent evolution-data-server build. Mbarnes is investigating, stay tuned. Error creating Live CD : Failed to build transaction : gnome-panel-3.0.2-2.fc16.x86_64 r

Re: 2011-07-25 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting - call for topics

2011-07-25 Thread James Laska
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 21:58 +0100, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: > On 07/24/2011 07:24 PM, James Laska wrote: > > # Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting > > # Date: 2011-07-25 > > # Time: 15:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) > > # Location: #fedora-

2011-07-25 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting - call for topics

2011-07-24 Thread James Laska
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2011-07-25 # Time: 15:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! This is a reminder of the upcoming QA meeting tomorrow. Please add any topic suggestions to meeting

Proposed Alpha criteria adjustments

2011-07-22 Thread James Laska
Greetings, During the second Alpha blocker review meeting [1], I took an action item to propose several adjustments to the release criteria. Because of bug#723144, it was agreed that the existing installer partitioning-related Alpha criteria could be adjusted slightly to accommodate the new "[ ]

2011-07-22 - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #2 - recap

2011-07-22 Thread James Laska
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-07-22/f16-blocker-review.2011-07-22-17.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-07-22/f16-blocker-review.2011-07-22-17.00.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-07-22/f1

Secondary Architecture Criteria - approach#4 - wiki templates

2011-07-21 Thread James Laska
Greetings all, As a follow-up to my discussion on documenting release criteria for secondary architectures [1], I've come up with a draft which implements approach#4 - wiki templates. The approach doesn't seem horrible to me, but I tend to spend a fair amount of time fiddling with wiki anyway.

[Test-Announce] 2011-07-22 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #2

2011-07-21 Thread James Laska
# F16 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #2 # Date: 2011-07-22 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT, 10:00 MST) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net !!! ALL-CAPS RED-ALERT OMG LOL !!! Fedora 16 Alpha test compose is less than *one* week away (Jul 26) and F16 Alpha isn't far behind

Re: Instalatron: Anaconda testing framework

2011-07-20 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 10:17 -0400, David Cantrell wrote: > On 07/20/2011 08:50 AM, Sergio Rubio wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Hongqing Yang wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hi, Sergio, > > > > Hi Hongqing, > > > >> > >> Thanks for sharing. Now I and Tao Wu are working on the project Fedora >

Re: Rawhide Acceptance Test for F16 summary

2011-07-19 Thread James Laska
- Original Message - > On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 06:05 -0400, Tao Wu wrote: > > Greetings folks, > > > > Just wanted to summarize how testing held up for the rawhide > > acceptance test run of Fedora 16. Thanks for your attention. It is > > unfortunately that the rawhide installation version ha

Re: Instalatron: Anaconda testing framework

2011-07-19 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 17:49 +0200, Sergio Rubio wrote: > Greetings! > > Posted this to the wrong mailing list (David Cantrell suggested using > this one instead). > > Linking to avoid re-typing :), my apologies: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/anaconda-devel-list/2011-July/msg00090.html > >

Re: Rawhide Acceptance Test for F16 summary

2011-07-19 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 06:05 -0400, Tao Wu wrote: > Greetings folks, > > Just wanted to summarize how testing held up for the rawhide acceptance test > run of Fedora 16. Thanks for your attention. It is unfortunately that the > rawhide installation version has not passed the major test, please

2011-07-18 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting - recap

2011-07-18 Thread James Laska
As usual, you can find meeting minutes and IRC transcript on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20110718 TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up 1. j_dulaney will check-in with desktop team for guidance on s-c

Re: oVirt Node Fedora 16 Spin

2011-07-18 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 20:43 -0400, Joey Boggs wrote: > On 07/13/2011 01:19 PM, Joey Boggs wrote: > > It seems there are some issues with the current Spins approval > > process, but to workaround I've been asked to contact each of your > > lists to get acks for approval to keep the ball rolling. >

Re: 2011-07-18 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting - call for topics

2011-07-18 Thread James Laska
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 00:57 +0100, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: > On 07/18/2011 12:37 AM, James Laska wrote: > > # Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting > > # Date: 2011-07-18 > > # Time: 15:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) > > # Location: #fedora-

Re: Draft meeting SOP

2011-07-18 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 10:03 -0400, James Laska wrote: > Greetings folks, > > To better facilitate self-hosting our weekly QA meeting, I documented > the process I follow to prepare, host and recap the meeting. There are > some aspects where I diverge from the documented behave.

2011-07-18 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting - call for topics

2011-07-17 Thread James Laska
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2011-07-18 # Time: 15:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! This is a reminder of the upcoming QA meeting tomorrow. Please add any topic suggestions to meeting

2011-07-15 - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1 - recap

2011-07-15 Thread James Laska
#fedora-bugzappers: F16-Alpha Blocker Review Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2011-07-15/f16-alpha-blocker.2011-07-15-17.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraprojec

2011-07-15 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1 - REMINDER

2011-07-15 Thread James Laska
- Original Message - > # F16 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #1 > # Date: 2011-07-15 > # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT, 10:00 MST) > # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net Just a reminder that the first Fedora 16 Alpha blocker bug review meeting starts in under 1 hour

Re: [Test-Announce] 2011-07-15 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1

2011-07-14 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 11:31 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/14/2011 11:16 AM, James Laska wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 20:58 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >> On 07/13/2011 08:11 PM, James Laska wrote: > >>> Quite a bit

Re: [Test-Announce] 2011-07-15 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1

2011-07-14 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 18:36 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 19:25 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 07/13/2011 07:17 PM, James Laska wrote: > > > Your ideas are consistent with how we've handled this before, I don't > >

Re: [Test-Announce] 2011-07-15 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1

2011-07-14 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 20:58 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/13/2011 08:11 PM, James Laska wrote: > > Quite a bit smaller than the 100+ bugs on the list. Was that decision > > from a recent FESCO meeting? > > It's the one held on 15 June. > &g

Re: [Test-Announce] 2011-07-15 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1

2011-07-13 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 19:25 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/13/2011 07:17 PM, James Laska wrote: > > Your ideas are consistent with how we've handled this before, I don't > > think I could have articulated nearly as well though:) My > >

Re: [Test-Announce] 2011-07-15 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1

2011-07-13 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 11:52 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 13:22 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 14:28:33 -0400, > > James Laska wrote: > > > == Suggested Meeting Preparation == > > > > Is there a plan

[Test-Announce] 2011-07-15 @ 17:00 UTC - F16 Alpha blocker bug review #1

2011-07-13 Thread James Laska
# F16 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #1 # Date: 2011-07-15 # Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT, 10:00 MST) # Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net Hard to believe, but the "vacation" is over. Fedora 16 Alpha test compose is a few weeks away (Jul 26) and the Alpha is about a month

Re: oVirt Node Fedora 16 Spin

2011-07-13 Thread James Laska
Hi Joey! Thanks for reaching out to Fedora QA. On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 13:19 -0400, Joey Boggs wrote: > It seems there are some issues with the current Spins approval process, > but to workaround I've been asked to contact each of your lists to get > acks for approval to keep the ball rolling. >

Re: Draft meeting SOP

2011-07-12 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 13:00 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:48:28 -0400, > James Laska wrote: > > > > Okay, I've added some wording around your suggestion. Also, I fixed the > > missing #meeting-name command. > > I thought of ano

Re: Draft meeting SOP

2011-07-12 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 13:03 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On mar, 2011-07-12 at 12:48 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 11:29 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:39:45 -0400, > > > James Laska wrote: > > > > O

Re: Draft meeting SOP

2011-07-12 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 11:29 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:39:45 -0400, > James Laska wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 11:18 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:03:09 -0400, > > > James Laska wrote: &g

Re: Draft meeting SOP

2011-07-12 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 11:18 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:03:09 -0400, > James Laska wrote: > > > > Any feedback is appreciated. If nothing comes up, I'll move this out of > > my User:Jlaska space, and link to it from [[QA/Me

Re: Draft meeting SOP

2011-07-12 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 00:05 +0800, Gerard Braad wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 23:16:54 +0800, > > Gerard Braad wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:03 PM, James Laska wrote: > >> > To better f

Re: New Tester Introduction

2011-07-12 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-12 at 08:40 -0400, Petr Schindler wrote: > Hello, > I'm Petr Schindler (my nick is pschindl) and I'm new here. I work in > fedoraQA team on AutoQA project. I'm looking forward to learn > something new and to get some experiences with opensource development. Welcome to the team Petr

Draft meeting SOP

2011-07-12 Thread James Laska
Greetings folks, To better facilitate self-hosting our weekly QA meeting, I documented the process I follow to prepare, host and recap the meeting. There are some aspects where I diverge from the documented behave. For example, I simplified the meeting recap process. So long as the #chair make

2011-07-11 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap

2011-07-11 Thread James Laska
As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20110711 TOPIC: Gnome Shell duplicate application names === * Renaming of xfce-terminal application being discussed upstre

2011-07-11 @ **15:00 UTC** - Fedora QA Meeting - proposed agenda

2011-07-11 Thread James Laska
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2011-07-11 # Time: 15:00 UTC (11:00 EDT, 17:00 CEST) [1] # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! Quite a few topics to discuss today. Many of them are quick updates, so I don't anticipate going longer than our time slot. As a

Re: Developing secondary architecture release criteria

2011-07-08 Thread James Laska
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 12:49 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Friday, July 08, 2011 10:10:33 AM James Laska wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 16:15 +, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > > 2. Highlight differences - Draft individual wiki pages for each > > > >

Re: proposal: 'base' validation matrix

2011-07-08 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 16:26 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 10:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > Any ideas > > > > for naming, etc? Any comments on the test cases written so far? Thanks! > > > > > > One thought, the 'base' matrix page looks a bit sparse. > > > >

Re: Developing secondary architecture release criteria

2011-07-08 Thread James Laska
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 08:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 11:03 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > > If doable we should try to come up with a solution aimed at/fits > > > multiple release cycles > > > > How do you mean ... something

Re: Developing secondary architecture release criteria

2011-07-08 Thread James Laska
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 16:15 +, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > 2. Highlight differences - Draft individual wiki pages for each > > arch for each milestone (Alpha, Beta, Final). However, instead > > of duplicating all applicable primary arch content, only > > highlight th

Re: Developing secondary architecture release criteria

2011-07-08 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 17:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 16:24 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > 4. Inline exceptions - No new pages created, simply modify the > > existing criteria pages to indicate which arches criteria apply > >

Re: Developing secondary architecture release criteria

2011-07-08 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 21:08 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 07/07/2011 08:24 PM, James Laska wrote: > > Greetings folks, > > > > I'm interested in developing a solution to allow Fedora secondary > > architectures [1] (specifically ppc64 and s

Developing secondary architecture release criteria

2011-07-07 Thread James Laska
Greetings folks, I'm interested in developing a solution to allow Fedora secondary architectures [1] (specifically ppc64 and s390x for now) to leverage our existing release criteria [2]. This isn't really a tremendously difficult technical challenge, more of a content organization conundrum. The

Re: Release criteria updates: genericizing!

2011-07-06 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 14:14 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > I dunno, that was just the wording I came up with at the time, I > > > think :) If we can clarify it, that's all to the good. > > > > Is it better/same/worse as follows ... > > > >

Re: Release criteria updates: genericizing!

2011-07-06 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 16:52 -0400, James Laska wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 13:00 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 15:39 -0400, James Laska wrote: There was one additional change made to the wiki that wasn't previously discussed. I removed the Beta

Re: proposal: 'base' validation matrix

2011-06-30 Thread James Laska
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 12:53 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hey, folks. So, right now, as most of you know, we have two release > validation 'matrices' - sets of tests we run and document on each > candidate build of Fedora to check compliance with the release criteria. > > A few of us have been w

2011-06-27 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap

2011-06-27 Thread James Laska
As always, minutes and IRC transcript available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20110627 TOPIC: Gnome Shell duplicate application names == * On the terminal issue... xfce "terminal" is getting renamed to "xfce

2011-06-27 @ **15:00 UTC** - Fedora QA Meeting - proposed agenda

2011-06-27 Thread James Laska
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2011-06-27 # Time: 15:00 UTC (11:00 EDT, 17:00 CEST) [1] # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! It's that time again. I've included a few topics for discussion below. As always, feel free to respond to this mail with addition

Re: Release criteria updates: genericizing!

2011-06-23 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 13:00 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 15:39 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > > > On the deletion of the 'primary architectures' mention from 4: we should > > > probably replace this with something in the preamble, similar

Re: Release criteria updates: genericizing!

2011-06-23 Thread James Laska
Thanks for the feedback! Some follow-up below... On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 09:12 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 10:46 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > Greetings testers, > > > > I've been playing with some ideas on how to allow secondary > > archi

Re: Release criteria updates: genericizing!

2011-06-23 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 13:07 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On 06/23/2011 10:46 AM, James Laska wrote: > > Greetings testers, > > > > I've been playing with some ideas on how to allow secondary > > architectures to leverage the primary release criteria. I have som

Release criteria updates: genericizing!

2011-06-23 Thread James Laska
Greetings testers, I've been playing with some ideas on how to allow secondary architectures to leverage the primary release criteria. I have some ideas/challenges that I'll send to the list for feedback later. However, in preparation for those ideas/concerns, I'd like to propose several changes

Re: problem with F15 in qemu

2011-06-23 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 14:54 +0200, Karel Volný wrote: > ha! - there is genuine bug > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=715584 That should have been corrected already (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699770). I've DUP'd your bug, and reopened the original as it doesn't appea

2011-06-20 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap

2011-06-20 Thread James Laska
As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20110620 TOPIC: Gnome Shell duplicate application names * Upstream GNOME not interested in resolving duplicate application

2011-06-20 @ **15:00 UTC** - Fedora QA Meeting - proposed agenda

2011-06-20 Thread James Laska
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2011-06-20 # Time: 15:00 UTC (11:00 EDT, 17:00 CEST) [1] # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! It's that time again. I've included a few topics for discussion below. As always, feel free to respond to this mail with addition

Fedora 15 QA retrospective - feedback requested

2011-06-17 Thread James Laska
Greetings, I'd like to draw attention to the QA retrospective wiki page, and initial draft of recommendations, for Fedora 15. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_QA_Retrospective#Recommendations During the release, some of you have been documenting issues (good + bad) as they happen. We ha

Re: Mediawiki 1.16 tag syntax change breaks Result template

2011-06-17 Thread James Laska
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 13:51 +0800, He Rui wrote: > Oh, I noticed it yesterday as well. I just modified the 'name' a bit to > include letters. It seems work now.:) Oops, I changed the template in the staging instance, and thought I carried that change forward into production. Thanks for fixing :)

2011-06-13 - QA Meeting today?

2011-06-13 Thread James Laska
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2011-06-13 # Time: 15:00 UTC (11:00 EDT, 17:00 CEST) [1] # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! I'm afraid I don't have a slew of topics that demand meeting time today. However, there are a few items worthy of a mailing list u

Re: Specials chars (| = -) inside command template breaks the rendering

2011-06-07 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 13:06 -0100, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: > Hello, > > When I was writing [1], I've noticed that using | , = and - breaks > command rendering so I've replaced those chars with HTML codes (see > below), if there's better solution, please tell me > > {{command| ifconfig | grep in

2011-06-06 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap

2011-06-06 Thread James Laska
Minutes and IRC log can be found on that wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20110606 TOPIC: Release criteria updates == * vhumpa started a discussion on test + desktop lists last week - http://lists.fedorapr

2011-06-06 @ **15:00 UTC** - Fedora QA Meeting - proposed agenda

2011-06-06 Thread James Laska
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2011-06-06 # Time: 15:00 UTC (11:00 EDT, 17:00 CEST) [1] # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! It's that time again. I've included a few topics for discussion below. As always, feel free to respond to this mail with addition

Re: tags are not rendered correctly in some test-cases pages

2011-06-01 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 14:04 +, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: > On 06/01/2011 02:00 PM, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I was reading some test-cases to improve my skills, and suddenly I've > > noticed that tags are not rendered correctly, here's some examples > > with this issue (there's

Re: Fedora 14 to 15: no getty's

2011-05-31 Thread James Laska
On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 10:20 +0200, A.J. Werkman wrote: > I just updated a F14 system to F15. After the update I can't login via > the console. Login through the network over ssh is possible. How did you update (DVD, preupgrade or yum)? > Does this mean that the update procedure hasn't translate

2011-05-30 @ **15:00 UTC** - Fedora QA Meeting - proposed agenda

2011-05-30 Thread James Laska
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2011-05-30 # Time: 15:00 UTC (11:00 EDT, 17:00 CEST) [1] # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings folks, I won't be available on IRC to host the QA meeting today. However, if there is interest, and someone doesn't mind walking the agend

Re: Mock/pungi error - stumped!

2011-05-23 Thread James Laska
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 19:59 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:09 PM, James Laska wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 18:56 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > >> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 6:55 PM, mike cloaked > >> wrote: > >> > >

2011-05-23 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap

2011-05-23 Thread James Laska
As always, minutes and IRC transcript available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20110523 TOPIC: F-15-Preparations = * Behold, the hot dog! - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers *

Re: Mock/pungi error - stumped!

2011-05-23 Thread James Laska
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 18:56 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 6:55 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > > > Attaching the root.log from the chroot. > > And additionally the versions of lorax and pungi within the chroot are: > lorax-0.4.6-1.fc15.i686 > pungi-2.5-2.fc15.noarch > > Any add

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

2011-05-23 Thread James Laska
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 13:13 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 05/23/2011 12:35 PM, James Laska wrote: > > > > > I just completed a F-15 DVD install (no online repos enabled) on > > baremetal. After installation and boot-up, the network is not enabled > > (as e

Re: My Fedora 15 beta experiences so far

2011-05-23 Thread James Laska
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 18:34 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 22 May 2011 14:43:07 -0700 > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > That's not accurate. The entry 'Network Settings...' at the bottom of > > the network applet menu launches the control center Network applet, > > But if you install from a DVD

Re: Mock/pungi error - stumped!

2011-05-23 Thread James Laska
On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 22:07 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > I have been trying to build f15 from the development/f15 plus f15 > updates repos using pungi from a mock chroot. I have been doing this > process since f11 days. > > I use a standard .cfg file to create the chroot with the mock -r > comma

2011-05-23 @ **15:00 UTC** - Fedora QA Meeting - proposed agenda

2011-05-23 Thread James Laska
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2011-05-23 # Time: 15:00 UTC (11:00 EDT, 17:00 CEST) [1] # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings, Likely a brief meeting today. I don't have a large agenda planned. As always, please respond to this email with any discussion topics or

Re: F-15 Multi-Spin DVD verification

2011-05-18 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 16:17 -0400, James Laska wrote: > Greetings testers, > > As requested in ticket#164 [1], a multi-spin DVD ISO image will be > provided along-side Fedora 15. Ideally, this image would be prepared > and tested at each milestone. For Fedora 15, the Multi-Spin

Re: QA 'vote' at the go/no-go meetings

2011-05-18 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 02:09 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 05/18/2011 02:03 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Adam Williamson > > wrote: > > > >> I hope that's acceptable to all! If not, or anyone has ideas for > >> improvement, do say so... > > As a formerly

Re: QA 'vote' at the go/no-go meetings

2011-05-18 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 20:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 02:04 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 05/18/2011 01:16 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > to specify the basis on which QA's 'vote' at this meeting is cast. It's > > > really entirely deterministic; there's

F-15 Multi-Spin DVD verification

2011-05-17 Thread James Laska
Greetings testers, As requested in ticket#164 [1], a multi-spin DVD ISO image will be provided along-side Fedora 15. Ideally, this image would be prepared and tested at each milestone. For Fedora 15, the Multi-Spin DVD image is not part of the release criteria, and completion of the tests is onl

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