Hi,
My name is Ludovic. Paul-Muadib on freenode. I've been using OSS since
2000ish. I'm emplyed by mozilla as root , before that I was the QA lead for
Thunderbird and for Joost a video startup company. I've used linux on and
off since 1996 (kernel 1.3.88) with slackware/Debian/RHEL/CentOS - I've
al
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:36 PM Harold Dost wrote:
>
> Is having this as a test criteria *that* burdensome? Similar to another
> blocker that was being proposed, maybe it's not something that _must_ be
> tested, but if it's known to be broken that it should block a final. Maybe
> I'm missing so
Harold Dost composed on 2018-09-20 22:35 (UTC-0400):
> Is having this as a test criteria *that* burdensome? Similar to another
> blocker that was being proposed, maybe it's not something that _must_ be
> tested, but if it's known to be broken that it should block a final.
+1
--
"Wisdom is suprem
Is having this as a test criteria *that* burdensome? Similar to another
blocker that was being proposed, maybe it's not something that _must_ be
tested, but if it's known to be broken that it should block a final. Maybe
I'm missing something, but unless the image is over the capacity of a DVD,
what
On 9/21/18 9:47 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 6:08 PM Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 9/21/18 7:42 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:47 PM Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>>
That is true, but there is also a reasonable chance or losing them,
breaking them, or other r
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 6:08 PM Ed Greshko wrote:
>
> On 9/21/18 7:42 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:47 PM Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >
> >> That is true, but there is also a reasonable chance or losing them,
> >> breaking them, or other random failures. When a flash drive dies,
On 9/20/18 7:45 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:51 PM Robert Moskowitz wrote:
That is what I meant about installing from CD. I take the ISO image and
burn it to CD. If that is what is proposed to still be included, then I
can work with it.
The size of the Workstation liv
On 9/21/18 7:42 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:47 PM Samuel Sieb wrote:
>
>> That is true, but there is also a reasonable chance or losing them,
>> breaking them, or other random failures. When a flash drive dies, it's
>> gone, very difficult to recover if even possible. I w
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:34 PM Anderson, Charles R wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 08:29:24PM +, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > Some of these beasties are of, well, "older" vintage and are unable to
> > boot USB media natively. They can boot some USB-based and most IDE-based
> > CD/DVD drives. I'
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:51 PM Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
> That is what I meant about installing from CD. I take the ISO image and
> burn it to CD. If that is what is proposed to still be included, then I
> can work with it.
The size of the Workstation live ISO exceeds what will fit on a CD.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 2:47 PM Samuel Sieb wrote:
> That is true, but there is also a reasonable chance or losing them,
> breaking them, or other random failures. When a flash drive dies, it's
> gone, very difficult to recover if even possible. I would not recommend
> a flash drive (or DVD) al
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:46 AM Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
> The evidence is finally in on how blue light destroys the retina.
>
> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-28254-8
>
> (Nature only publishes peer reviewed material.)
The research is saying blue light enhances age related macular
d
Okay,
I see. I always burn the ISOs to DVD and do bare metal installs from
DVD; so I am testing this criteria every time I install a new drop for
testing. Well, I have no plans to change my install procedure. I don't
test every drop, and so far I wait to start testing until the new
version is
On 9/20/18 5:45 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2018-09-20 at 16:10 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote:
Consider cost please. DVDs are a few cents each. From what I've seen 16
Gb is the smallest thumb drive available now and they are fading fast.
Even in lot quantity they are between $6 an
On Thu, 2018-09-20 at 16:42 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
> On 9/20/18 4:25 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:17:52PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > > I burn CDs regularly for my wife. I cannot do this on my F28 Xfce
> > > system with k3b. See bug 1583845. I have to
On Thu, 2018-09-20 at 16:10 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote:
> Consider cost please. DVDs are a few cents each. From what I've seen 16
> Gb is the smallest thumb drive available now and they are fading fast.
> Even in lot quantity they are between $6 an d $10 each.
>
> I know they can be reus
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 05:13:42PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
>
> On 9/20/18 5:05 PM, Anderson, Charles R wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:48:25PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > >
> > > On 9/20/18 4:34 PM, Anderson, Charles R wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 08:29:24PM +
On 9/20/18 5:16 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:46:52PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I suppose I can read up how to make a 'LiveCD' on usb, and see if it boots!
Please try the Fedora Media Writer tool.
Will.
That is something else you would have to change to 'Live
On 9/20/18 1:35 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:23:03PM -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote:
There are still some systems out there that won't boot off native
USB media and need CD/DVD emulation over USB to work. I don't think
the time is yet ripe to jettison op
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 4:06 PM Fred Smith
wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 08:42:13PM +0200, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote:
> >I keep an optical driver in a box under the desk, it might be useful
> >someday.
> >I haven't used it for years. So yeah, it's time to clean the box
>
> So, doe
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:46:52PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I suppose I can read up how to make a 'LiveCD' on usb, and see if it boots!
Please try the Fedora Media Writer tool.
> That is something else you would have to change to 'LiveUSB'.
We've called our images just "Live" since... as
On 9/20/18 5:05 PM, Anderson, Charles R wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:48:25PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 9/20/18 4:34 PM, Anderson, Charles R wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 08:29:24PM +, Rick Stevens wrote:
Some of these beasties are of, well, "older" vintage and are unable t
On 9/20/18 5:02 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
This is getting off-topic, so I changed the subject. If we continue
this discussion much more, it should migrate to the users list.
On 9/20/18 1:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 9/20/18 4:53 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 9/20/18 1:48 PM, Robert Moskowitz
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 08:42:13PM +0200, Julen Landa Alustiza wrote:
>I keep an optical driver in a box under the desk, it might be useful
>someday.
>I haven't used it for years. So yeah, it's time to clean the box
So, does this mean the images can can no longer be made to boot from
o
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:48:25PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
>
> On 9/20/18 4:34 PM, Anderson, Charles R wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 08:29:24PM +, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > > Some of these beasties are of, well, "older" vintage and are unable to
> > > boot USB media natively. They
This is getting off-topic, so I changed the subject. If we continue
this discussion much more, it should migrate to the users list.
On 9/20/18 1:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 9/20/18 4:53 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 9/20/18 1:48 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
PXE boot Set up a PXE server?
On 9/20/18 4:53 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 9/20/18 1:48 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 9/20/18 4:34 PM, Anderson, Charles R wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 08:29:24PM +, Rick Stevens wrote:
Some of these beasties are of, well, "older" vintage and are unable to
boot USB media natively. They
On 9/20/18 1:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
That is what I meant about installing from CD. I take the ISO image and
burn it to CD. If that is what is proposed to still be included, then I
can work with it.
This is only about testing, no changes to the release artifacts in any
way. You will
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:42:50PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:17:52PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >>I burn CDs regularly for my wife. I cannot do this on my F28 Xfce
> >>system with k3b. See bug 1583845. I have to use my F24 old system.
> >>Can't burn DVDs (
On 9/20/18 4:45 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 9/20/18 1:40 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
I'm not sure what FUD you've read to believe that, but flash drives
from reputable brands are very hard and last more than a few times
writing to them.
That is true, but there is also a reasonable chance o
On 9/20/18 1:48 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 9/20/18 4:34 PM, Anderson, Charles R wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 08:29:24PM +, Rick Stevens wrote:
Some of these beasties are of, well, "older" vintage and are unable to
boot USB media natively. They can boot some USB-based and most IDE-base
Matthew Miller composed on 2018-09-20 14:16 (UTC-0400):
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 01:49:20PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> Justification:
>> http://newsthump.com/2018/05/21/man-decides-to-keep-box-of-cables-hes-has-since-2002-for-another-year/
> More seriously: I don't think there are any sys
On 9/20/18 4:41 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 9/20/18 1:29 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 9/20/18 12:59 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 9/20/18 12:30 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 9/20/18 12:26 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
+1 to dropping the optical media criterion for Fedora, but I still
rip
CDs and
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 9/20/18 12:26 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>> +1 to dropping the optical media criterion for Fedora, but I still rip
>> CDs and DVDs ;-)
>
> There are still some systems out there that won't boot off native
> USB media and need CD/DVD
On 9/20/18 1:42 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 9/20/18 4:25 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:17:52PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I burn CDs regularly for my wife. I cannot do this on my F28 Xfce
system with k3b. See bug 1583845. I have to use my F24 old system.
Can't bu
On 9/20/18 4:34 PM, Anderson, Charles R wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 08:29:24PM +, Rick Stevens wrote:
Some of these beasties are of, well, "older" vintage and are unable to
boot USB media natively. They can boot some USB-based and most IDE-based
CD/DVD drives. I'd love to replace them w
On 9/20/18 4:30 PM, Alessio Ciregia wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 10:26 PM Matthew Miller
mailto:mat...@fedoraproject.org>> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:17:52PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I burn CDs regularly for my wife. I cannot do this on my F28 Xfce
> system with k3
On 9/20/18 1:40 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
I'm not sure what FUD you've read to believe that, but flash drives from
reputable brands are very hard and last more than a few times writing to
them.
That is true, but there is also a reasonable chance or losing them,
breaking them, or other ra
On 9/20/18 4:25 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:17:52PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I burn CDs regularly for my wife. I cannot do this on my F28 Xfce
system with k3b. See bug 1583845. I have to use my F24 old system.
Can't burn DVDs (for backups of video lectures) eit
On 9/20/18 1:29 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 9/20/18 12:59 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 9/20/18 12:30 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 9/20/18 12:26 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
+1 to dropping the optical media criterion for Fedora, but I still rip
CDs and DVDs ;-)
There are still some systems out
On 9/20/18 4:23 PM, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote:
On 9/20/18 4:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 07:30:19PM +, Rick Stevens wrote:
+1 to dropping the optical media criterion for Fedora, but I still rip
CDs and DVDs ;-)
There are still some systems out there that won't
On 9/20/18 3:23 PM, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote:
We buy used, manufacturer refurbished PCs for the most part to keep costs down.
They are generally 5 years old when purchased and they get used for another 5 or
more years. They run Fedora and the applications we use just fine. So now it
sounds l
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:23:03PM -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote:
> >>There are still some systems out there that won't boot off native
> >>USB media and need CD/DVD emulation over USB to work. I don't think
> >>the time is yet ripe to jettison optical media. Soon, but not just yet.
> >How man
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 08:29:24PM +, Rick Stevens wrote:
> Some of these beasties are of, well, "older" vintage and are unable to
> boot USB media natively. They can boot some USB-based and most IDE-based
> CD/DVD drives. I'd love to replace them with newer systems but am unable
> to unless th
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 10:26 PM Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:17:52PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > I burn CDs regularly for my wife. I cannot do this on my F28 Xfce
> > system with k3b. See bug 1583845. I have to use my F24 old system.
> > Can't burn DVDs (for backups
On 9/20/18 12:59 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 9/20/18 12:30 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
>> On 9/20/18 12:26 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>>> +1 to dropping the optical media criterion for Fedora, but I still rip
>>> CDs and DVDs ;-)
>>
>> There are still some systems out there that won't boot off n
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:17:52PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> I burn CDs regularly for my wife. I cannot do this on my F28 Xfce
> system with k3b. See bug 1583845. I have to use my F24 old system.
> Can't burn DVDs (for backups of video lectures) either.
Burning DVDs is a completely separa
On 9/20/18 4:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 07:30:19PM +, Rick Stevens wrote:
+1 to dropping the optical media criterion for Fedora, but I still rip
CDs and DVDs ;-)
There are still some systems out there that won't boot off native
USB media and need CD/DVD emulation
On 9/20/18 1:49 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Justification:
http://newsthump.com/2018/05/21/man-decides-to-keep-box-of-cables-hes-has-since-2002-for-another-year/
I installed F28 with a netinstall CD.
I burn CDs regularly for my wife. I cannot do this on my F28 Xfce
system with k3b. See bug
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 04:01:40PM -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote:
> >More seriously: I don't think there are any systems in the audiences
> >targeted by our release-blocking deliverables which are not better served
> >by booting from USB media.
> I maintain a group of PCs. I like to always lea
On 9/20/18 1:01 PM, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote:
I maintain a group of PCs. I like to always leave a copy of the install
media with each PC in case it's needed. DVDs are very much cheaper than
thumb drives. Please don't make me spend my budget when there is no need
to.
There is nothing stoppi
Consider cost please. DVDs are a few cents each. From what I've seen 16
Gb is the smallest thumb drive available now and they are fading fast.
Even in lot quantity they are between $6 an d $10 each.
I know they can be reused a few times before they start having retention
problems, but there is
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 07:30:19PM +, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > +1 to dropping the optical media criterion for Fedora, but I still rip
> > CDs and DVDs ;-)
> There are still some systems out there that won't boot off native
> USB media and need CD/DVD emulation over USB to work. I don't think
> t
On 9/20/18 2:16 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 01:49:20PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
Justification:
http://newsthump.com/2018/05/21/man-decides-to-keep-box-of-cables-hes-has-since-2002-for-another-year/
More seriously: I don't think there are any systems in the audiences
On 9/20/18 12:30 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 9/20/18 12:26 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
+1 to dropping the optical media criterion for Fedora, but I still rip
CDs and DVDs ;-)
There are still some systems out there that won't boot off native
USB media and need CD/DVD emulation over USB to
On 9/20/18 12:26 PM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> +1 to dropping the optical media criterion for Fedora, but I still rip
> CDs and DVDs ;-)
There are still some systems out there that won't boot off native
USB media and need CD/DVD emulation over USB to work. I don't think
the time is yet ripe
+1 to dropping the optical media criterion for Fedora, but I still rip
CDs and DVDs ;-)
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Matthew Miller
> wrote:
>> Justification:
>> http://newsthump.com/2018/05/21/man-decides-to-keep-box-of-cables-hes-ha
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:49 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> Justification:
> http://newsthump.com/2018/05/21/man-decides-to-keep-box-of-cables-hes-has-since-2002-for-another-year/
+1 to dropping the optical media criterion
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I keep an optical driver in a box under the desk, it might be useful
someday.
I haven't used it for years. So yeah, it's time to clean the box
El jue., 20 sept. 2018 20:26, Richard Shaw escribió:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 12:49 PM Matthew Miller
> wrote:
>
>> Justification:
>> http://newsthump
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 12:49 PM Matthew Miller
wrote:
> Justification:
> http://newsthump.com/2018/05/21/man-decides-to-keep-box-of-cables-hes-has-since-2002-for-another-year/
Ouch, that stings just a little :) But yeah, I have burned an install disk
in years.
Thanks,
Richard
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 01:49:20PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Justification:
> http://newsthump.com/2018/05/21/man-decides-to-keep-box-of-cables-hes-has-since-2002-for-another-year/
More seriously: I don't think there are any systems in the audiences
targeted by our release-blocking deliverab
Justification:
http://newsthump.com/2018/05/21/man-decides-to-keep-box-of-cables-hes-has-since-2002-for-another-year/
--
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On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> There was a bug[1] filed recently that indicated that printing was
>> broken on certain printers. As a result of that discussion, it became
>> apparent that there was no criteria for printing to work at all, which
>> seems like an oversigh
> There was a bug[1] filed recently that indicated that printing was
> broken on certain printers. As a result of that discussion, it became
> apparent that there was no criteria for printing to work at all, which
> seems like an oversight.
>
> I discussed this briefly with Matthias Clasen this mor
The evidence is finally in on how blue light destroys the retina.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-28254-8
(Nature only publishes peer reviewed material.)
A popular site report on this can be seen at:
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/we-finally-know-why-blue-light-is-so
I just tested with beta 1.5 and maybe it is working. See the below:
On 9/18/18 7:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 9/19/18 5:28 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
So far tracer has not reported a need to restart anything. I thought there
were a
couple updates that it should have required restarting.
Can
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 7:50 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 9:47 AM Ben Cotton wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:33 AM Stephen Gallagher
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd like to propose that we add the following criteria to Beta for
> Fedora 30+:
> > > * Printing must work o
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 9:47 AM Ben Cotton wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:33 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to propose that we add the following criteria to Beta for Fedora
> > 30+:
> > * Printing must work on at least one printer available to Fedora QA.
> > "Work" is defined
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:33 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
> I'd like to propose that we add the following criteria to Beta for Fedora 30+:
> * Printing must work on at least one printer available to Fedora QA.
> "Work" is defined as the output from the device matching a preview
> shown on the GNO
Felix Miata wrote:
> Non-sse2 won't work on openSUSE Tumbleweed, but does on Debian next
> (10/Buster). I have a 28 attempting to dnf upgrade to 29, but I'm seeing a
> ton of entries filling up /var/lib/systemd/coredump, 197 files and still
> counting. :-( --
Pretty much yes,
https://fedoraproje
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 8:40 AM Stephen Gallagher
wrote:
> I'd like to propose that we add the following criteria to Beta for Fedora
> 30+:
> * Printing must work on at least one printer available to Fedora QA.
>
> and this to Final for Fedora 30+:
> * Printing must work on at least one printer
There was a bug[1] filed recently that indicated that printing was
broken on certain printers. As a result of that discussion, it became
apparent that there was no criteria for printing to work at all, which
seems like an oversight.
I discussed this briefly with Matthias Clasen this morning and he
On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 08:33:05AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> There was a bug[1] filed recently that indicated that printing was
> broken on certain printers. As a result of that discussion, it became
> apparent that there was no criteria for printing to work at all, which
> seems like an ov
The process that's running is gnome-software.
Have a Great Day!
Pat (tablepc)
On 9/19/18 11:59 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 9/19/18 5:06 AM, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote:
Back on the evening of 09/17 I downloaded the Workstation Live beta
1.3 ISO, and ran the check sum (ok), and
No missing expected images.
Failed openQA tests: 2/132 (x86_64), 1/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm)
ID: 283213 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/283213
ID: 283219 Test: arm Minimal-raw_xz-raw.xz
install_arm_image_deployment_uplo
Cloud Base and Atomic Host AMIs are available to test for various regions.
Cloud Base AMIs are here:
Fedora-Cloud-Base-29_Beta-1.5.x86_64 ap-northeast-1
ami-0a24cb0b129391f91 hvm standard
Fedora-Cloud-Base-29_Beta-1.5.x86_64 ap-northeast-2
ami-025a265da1a333635 hvm standard
Fedora-Cloud-Base
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