On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 23:36 -0500, Bob Lightfoot wrote:
>
> Have we considered what this will do when used with fedup if
> anything?
> Or will the F21 "weak" password be grandfathered in?
It's a change to the installer. It has nothing at all to do with fedup.
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#18: Request for content - Debugging evolution
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On 30.01.2015 02:14, Andre Robatino wrote:
> This is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1079906 (originally
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062997 ). It partially works
> now in Rawhide, except that it fails to remove the old version of
> kernel-devel (see https://bugzilla.r
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On 01/29/2015 11:04 PM, Rejy M Cyriac wrote:
> On 01/30/2015 01:00 AM, David Lehman wrote:
>> On 01/29/2015 06:29 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 08:53:42 AM Brian C. Lane
>>> wrote:
This Friday's build of Anaconda wil
On 01/30/2015 01:00 AM, David Lehman wrote:
> On 01/29/2015 06:29 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
>> On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 08:53:42 AM Brian C. Lane wrote:
>>> This Friday's build of Anaconda will no longer allow you to use weak
>>> passwords and click done twice. In order to promote more secure
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> And as I said to otherChris, 'without open
> discussion' is just plainly false. There's a ton of 'open discussion',
> spread across three mailing lists.
That's confused. On devel@ the discussion was about the original
change feature. On an
Adam Williamson composed on 2015-01-29 18:23 (UTC-0800):
> You could also, of course, wait more than
> one lousy day to give the devs a chance to reply before whipping up a
> storm of righteous indignation, but so often that seems too much to
> ask?
I wonder if a point of Brian's OP was to ga
On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 19:55 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said:
> > It's not actually something that is part of the Change's scope,
> > but an alternative way to try and achieve the same goal: the
> > overall thought process was "well, what the Change proposer rea
Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said:
> It's not actually something that is part of the Change's scope, but an
> alternative way to try and achieve the same goal: the overall thought
> process was "well, what the Change proposer really wants is to reduce
> the likelihood of compromise via pas
Chris Murphy colorremedies.com> writes:
> If this is really an improvement in security, which it isn't because
> an 8 character "good" password still has very low entropy, then it
It depends - if the only concern is remote access, and there is a limit on
the number of login attempts (either by n
#322: New release criterion: no X libs in the minimal install set
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Type: enhancement | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: Release criteria |V
This is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1079906 (originally
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1062997 ). It partially works
now in Rawhide, except that it fails to remove the old version of
kernel-devel (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1079906#c18
which is stil
On Mon, 2015-01-26 at 19:47 +1100, Bjorn Njordsson wrote:
> Hi all,
Welcome!
> My name is David Terrey, also known as Bjorn Njordsson.
There just *has* to be a story behind that!
> I am 31 years old and been an System Administrator and IT Support
> for just under 8 years.
> I am happy to dedi
#443: Better format for test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC) requests
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Type: enhancement | Status: new
Priority: major
#398: Add Secure Boot test case
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#228: SOPs for Everything
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#395: Consider how to improve testing of different installer interfaces
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#273: Improve browseability of validation matrix pages
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#454: Proposed Test Day - Server
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Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 21
Component: Test Day |Version: 2.0
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#452: Proposed Test Day - Jenkins
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Type: task | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 21
Component: Test Day |Version:
Resolution: fixed | Keywords:
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#451: Fedora 21 i18n Test Day
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Reporter: tagoh | Owner:
Type: task | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 21
Component: Test Day |Version:
Resolution: fixed | Keywords:
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#450: Fedora 21 Translation (L10n) Test Day
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Reporter: anipeter | Owner: pschindl
Type: task | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 21
Component: Test Day |Version:
Resolution: wontfix | Key
#449: Proposed Test Day - Cockpit
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Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 21
Component: Test Day |Version:
Resolution: fixed | Keywords:
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#448: Proposed Test Day - Virtualization
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Reporter: crobinso | Owner:
Type: task | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 21
Component: Test Day |Version:
Resolution: fixed | Keywords:
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#447: Proposed Test Day - ARM
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Type: task | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 21
Component: Test Day |Version:
Resolution: wontfix | Keywords:
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#446: Proposed Test Day - NetworkManager
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Type: task | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 21
Component: Test Day |Version:
Resolution: wontfix | Keywords:
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#444: Proposed Test Day - GNOME-3.14
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Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 21
Component: Test Day |Version:
Resolution: fixed | Keywords:
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#441: Temporary sysadmin-qa membership to access beaker for desktop qe
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#429: temporary membership in sysadmin-qa for atodorov so that beaker trial can
continue
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#403: Modify initial-setup test case or create new one for ARM (vendor mode)
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Priority: blocker | Milestone: Fedora 20
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#404: Look through validation matrices and note which tests don't apply to ARM
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Priority: blocker | Milestone: Fedora 20
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#397: Create test cases for release criteria that are currently missing them
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#400: Revise 'firstboot' test case
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#396: Revise partitioning test cases to reflect newUI design and cover its
intended use cases
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#394: Revise validation process / templates for ARM as primary arch
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Resolution: fix
#393: Revise release criteria for ARM as primary arch
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#363: Require spins to go through smoke testing before being published
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#336: ARM as primary arch
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#327: test cases that require autopart shrink need to be updated
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Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 18
Component: Test cases |Version:
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#322: New release criterion: no X libs in the minimal install set
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Type: enhancement | Status: reopened
Priority: major | Milestone:
Component: Release criteria |
#307: Add multi-desktop and multi-arch images to validation process
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Type: enhancement | Status: closed
Priority: critical
#297: Review release criteria for Fedora 18
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Component: Release criteria |
#277: Add ARM to release criteria / validation process somehow
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Priority: critical | Milestone: Fedora 18
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#275: Create test plan for ARM
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#273: Improve browseability of validation matrix pages
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Type: enhancement | Status: new
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#272: Add changelog to TC/RC announce mails
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Type: enhancement | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone: Fedor
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 16:24 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> > It's not actually something that is part of the Change's scope,
>> > but an alternative way to try and achieve the same goal: the
>> > overall thought process was "well, what th
On Tue, 2015-01-27 at 13:52 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-01-23 at 09:25 -0700, Mike Ruckman wrote:
>
> > Just to sum it up for people, the proposal overall is:
> >
> > - Reword the alpha criterion [0]
> > - add a Beta criterion (with the latest extension) [1]
> > - add a net-in
On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 16:24 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> > It's not actually something that is part of the Change's scope,
> > but an alternative way to try and achieve the same goal: the
> > overall thought process was "well, what the Change proposer really
> > wants is to reduce the likelih
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 15:09 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Adam Williamson <
>> adamw...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>> > Seriously. Stop this. I have already asked people to stop
>> > assigning negative motiva
On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 15:09 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Adam Williamson <
> adamw...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > Seriously. Stop this. I have already asked people to stop
> > assigning negative motivations to others without due cause. This
> > is not being exce
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> Seriously. Stop this. I have already asked people to stop assigning
> negative motivations to others without due cause. This is not being
> excellent to each other.
"Your user password for your computer is arbitrarily unacceptable to
the F
On Thu, 2015-01-29 at 14:01 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>
> > I just don't understand the reasoning here. Sure, make it very
> > clear that
> > the chosen password is weak. Make me jump through several hoops
> > before accepting the weak pa
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> I just don't understand the reasoning here. Sure, make it very clear that
> the chosen password is weak. Make me jump through several hoops before
> accepting the weak password. But it's my computer! Why can't I make the
> (informed) choic
On 01/29/2015 06:29 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 08:53:42 AM Brian C. Lane wrote:
This Friday's build of Anaconda will no longer allow you to use weak
passwords and click done twice. In order to promote more secureish
default systems I have increased the password leng
Kamil Paral wrote:
> I propose this change:
> title: Shutdown, reboot, logout, switch
> Shutting down, rebooting, logging out and user switching must work
(hrm, my prior response missed -test list)
User switching should not be a blocker.
Besides, even if broken, it can be fixed by subsequent up
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Kamil Paral wrote:
>
> I agree it's not as important as shutdown, but the question is whether it's
> important enough to be considered "basic functionality" and we block the
> release when it's broken hea
# dnf --disablerepo=* upgrade *3.18.4-200.fc21.x86_64.rpm
Dependencies resolved.
==
Package Arch Version Repository
Size
On 01/29/2015 06:30 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 01:37:39PM +0100, Jos Vos wrote:
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:56:56AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
+1 , I'm against enforce 'good' passwords , it is pretty clear, double
click if you want have an insecure password and system .
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 01:37:39PM +0100, Jos Vos wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:56:56AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
>
> > +1 , I'm against enforce 'good' passwords , it is pretty clear, double
> > click if you want have an insecure password and system .
>
> +1, enforcing will create lots of
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:56:56AM +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> +1 , I'm against enforce 'good' passwords , it is pretty clear, double
> click if you want have an insecure password and system .
+1, enforcing will create lots of frustrations for people often creating
internal test systems, etc.
On 01/29/2015 05:59 PM, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 08:53:42 AM Brian C. Lane wrote:
This Friday's build of Anaconda will no longer allow you to use weak
passwords and click done twice. In order to promote more secureish
default systems I have increased the password len
On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 08:53:42 AM Brian C. Lane wrote:
> This Friday's build of Anaconda will no longer allow you to use weak
> passwords and click done twice. In order to promote more secureish
> default systems I have increased the password length required to 8
> characters and removed a
> Matthias Clasen wrote:
> I think user switching is much less important than the other things on
> your list (login, shutdown, reboot)
I agree it's not as important as shutdown, but the question is whether it's
important enough to be considered "basic functionality" and we block the
release wh
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