Re: Consistent names changed yet again?

2014-08-06 Thread Dan Mossor
On 08/06/2014 03:23 PM, Felix Miata wrote: On 2014-08-06 11:43 (GMT-0500) Kevin Martin composed: Hmm, I have biosdevname installed (and always have) and have never put net.ifnames=0 anywhere that I'm aware of. I've included net.ifnames=0 on installer cmdline for every distro I've installe

Re: Self-introduction: Brandon Vincent

2014-08-06 Thread Mike Ruckman
On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 12:29:53PM -0700, Brandon Vincent wrote: > Hello, > > I'm thrilled to have the opportunity to join the QA team. I am a > system administrator who enjoys working on all *nix variants. I > currently also work with the Fedora Security Team to ensure that > vulnerabilities patc

Re: Consistent names changed yet again?

2014-08-06 Thread Felix Miata
On 2014-08-06 11:43 (GMT-0500) Kevin Martin composed: Hmm, I have biosdevname installed (and always have) and have never put net.ifnames=0 anywhere that I'm aware of. I've included net.ifnames=0 on installer cmdline for every distro I've installed for over a year. NAICT, Anaconda ignores it

Self-introduction: Brandon Vincent

2014-08-06 Thread Brandon Vincent
Hello, I'm thrilled to have the opportunity to join the QA team. I am a system administrator who enjoys working on all *nix variants. I currently also work with the Fedora Security Team to ensure that vulnerabilities patched in upstream reach the Fedora Project packagers. My area of expertise is i

Re: Consistent names changed yet again?

2014-08-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Wed, 6 Aug 2014, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 08/06/2014 10:48 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: wrote: For a longer time udev shipped support for assigning permanent "ethX" names to certain interfaces based on their MAC addresses. This turned out to have a multitude of problems, among them: this requir

Re: Consistent names changed yet again?

2014-08-06 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 08/06/2014 10:48 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: wrote: For a longer time udev shipped support for assigning permanent "ethX" names to certain interfaces based on their MAC addresses. This turned out to have a multitude of problems, among them: this required a writable root directory which is gen

Re: Consistent names changed yet again?

2014-08-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
Would someone explain this to me: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ wrote: For a longer time udev shipped support for assigning permanent "ethX" names to certain interfaces based on their MAC addresses. This turned out to have a multitude of proble

Re: Consistent names changed yet again?

2014-08-06 Thread Kevin Martin
On 08/06/2014 09:32 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 02:38:30PM +0200, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> In Fedora 21 we've more or less dropped biosdevname in favour of >> systemd. systemd's system is a cleaner implementation and the weight of >> opinion favours the systemd approach t

Re: Consistent names changed yet again?

2014-08-06 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 02:38:30PM +0200, Adam Williamson wrote: > > In Fedora 21 we've more or less dropped biosdevname in favour of > systemd. systemd's system is a cleaner implementation and the weight of > opinion favours the systemd approach to naming. See the discussion from > https://bugzil

Re: Consistent names changed yet again?

2014-08-06 Thread Kevin Martin
On 08/06/2014 07:08 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:55:55 -0400 > Matthew Miller wrote: > >> "consistent on the same machine for a given OS release, >> _across any possible hardware changes_" > > Maybe, but I know I watched the interface names change > just because a new version of

Re: Consistent names changed yet again?

2014-08-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-08-06 at 14:38 +0200, Adam Williamson wrote: > In Fedora 21 we've more or less dropped biosdevname in favour of > systemd. systemd's system is a cleaner implementation and the weight of > opinion favours the systemd approach to naming. See the discussion from > https://bugzilla.redhat

Re: Consistent names changed yet again?

2014-08-06 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-08-06 at 07:41 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > I've got F21 branched installed on an alternate partition on > my system, and I noticed this nonsense. On F21 I get this: > > enp5s0: flags=4163 mtu 1500 > inet 10.134.30.143 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.134.30.255 >

Re: Consistent names changed yet again?

2014-08-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 08:08:10AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > "consistent on the same machine for a given OS release, > > _across any possible hardware changes_" > Maybe, but I know I watched the interface names change > just because a new version of bisodevname was released > before biosdevname

Re: Consistent names changed yet again?

2014-08-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:55:55 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > "consistent on the same machine for a given OS release, > _across any possible hardware changes_" Maybe, but I know I watched the interface names change just because a new version of bisodevname was released before biosdevname was engulphe

Re: Consistent names changed yet again?

2014-08-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 07:41:07AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > What was the point of "consistent" interface names again? Completely leaving aside the question of what exactly it _should_ mean, it appears to mean "consistent on the same machine for a given OS release, _across any possible hardware

Consistent names changed yet again?

2014-08-06 Thread Tom Horsley
I've got F21 branched installed on an alternate partition on my system, and I noticed this nonsense. On F21 I get this: enp5s0: flags=4163 mtu 1500 inet 10.134.30.143 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.134.30.255 inet6 fe80::20b:eff:fe0f:ed prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20 et

F-21 Branched report: 20140806 changes

2014-08-06 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Aug 6 07:15:06 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [APLpy] APLpy-0.9.8-5.fc21.noarch requires pywcs [ModemManager] ModemManager-1.2.0-3.fc21.armv7hl requires libmbim-glib.so.0 [PyKDE] PyKDE-3.16.