Re: Distribution sizes

2013-10-09 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > When operating system distributions had to fit on a spool of paper tape, > 144000 bytes was a limit to worry about. > > With DVD blanks selling for little more than the price of CD blanks, > is there a need to limit the size of Live di

Re: F20 beta, swap failures

2013-10-09 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 7, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > Is anyone else seeing systemd report swap initialization errors? I'm always > getting them. I'm still getting this, but a pattern has emerged. I never get it if swap is on an LV. If it's on a partition, it always happens. It adds roughly 11 s

Re: Gnome 3.10: Network UI missing from new system status area

2013-10-09 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:23 PM, John Morris wrote: > On Wed, 2013-10-09 at 11:46 +, Andre Robatino wrote: >> John Morris beau.org> writes: >>> Screen space is valuable so removing an icon that is 'always' there and >>> isn't typically displaying useful information is sensible enough. >> >> Pos

Re: Gnome 3.10: Network UI missing from new system status area

2013-10-09 Thread John Morris
On Wed, 2013-10-09 at 11:46 +, Andre Robatino wrote: > John Morris beau.org> writes: > > Screen space is valuable so removing an icon that is 'always' there and > > isn't typically displaying useful information is sensible enough. > > Possibly a dumb question, but doesn't space have to always

Re: Fedora 20 nfs

2013-10-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/09/13 22:47, Mike Chambers wrote: > Did a test install of F20 64bit on my normal workstation/desktop. > > Problem seems to be that after I setup nfs to mount, it won't do it > automatically on boot. And this usually works just fine out of the box > up to F19. I have to mount the directory

[Test-Announce] Sunday 13th of October: SSD cache test day

2013-10-09 Thread Rolf Fokkens
Hi All, The Fedora SSD Cache is this sunday October 13th 2013. This Fedora Test Day will focus on bcache based SSD Caching in Fedora 20. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-10-13_SSD_Cache If you're interested in trying out the new bcache SSD caching functionality step by step instr

Re: Distribution sizes

2013-10-09 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2013-10-09 at 12:46 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote: > When operating system distributions had to fit on a spool of paper tape, > 144000 bytes was a limit to worry about. > > With DVD blanks selling for little more than the price of CD blanks, > is there a need to limit the size of Live

wired networking disabled, was: Gnome 3.10: Network UI missing from new system status area

2013-10-09 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 9, 2013, at 2:37 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: >> Yet several times after F20 alpha live installs I've had to go manually turn >> on the wired network, and the "Connect Automatically" option was unchecked. >> I suppose it could be a transient or imaginary problem. If I get something >> consisten

Distribution sizes

2013-10-09 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX
When operating system distributions had to fit on a spool of paper tape, 144000 bytes was a limit to worry about. With DVD blanks selling for little more than the price of CD blanks, is there a need to limit the size of Live disros to 700k? With double layer DVD blanks and 8 GB USB drives coming

F20 Beta Blocker Bug Review #3 Minutes

2013-10-09 Thread Tim Flink
#fedora-blocker-review: f20beta-blocker-review-3 Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-10-09/f20beta-blocker-review-3.2013-10-09-16.01.html Minutes (text): http://mee

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Gnome Test Day, October 10th

2013-10-09 Thread Kamil Paral
> Hi, > > This Thursday, 10th of October, is Fedora Gnome Test day. Check out the > test day page [1] if you are interested. > > You can test new Gnome 3.10 features [2] from Fedora 20 Live images and > help to make this release better. > > Only YOU can test some new exciting features, including

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Gnome Test Day, October 10th

2013-10-09 Thread Kamil Paral
> На 9.10.2013 15:50, Jan Sedlak написа: > > > > Join IRC #fedora-test-day on FreeNode if you get into trouble. > > Report all bugs preferably at upstream bugzilla [3] or Red Hat bugzilla > > [4]. > > Does this mean all apps will be latest & greatest ? Yes. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedor

Fedora 20 nfs

2013-10-09 Thread Mike Chambers
Did a test install of F20 64bit on my normal workstation/desktop. Problem seems to be that after I setup nfs to mount, it won't do it automatically on boot. And this usually works just fine out of the box up to F19. I have to mount the directory manually once the system is booted. Is there a p

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Gnome Test Day, October 10th

2013-10-09 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 10/09/2013 01:41 PM, Alexander Todorov wrote: Join IRC #fedora-test-day on FreeNode if you get into trouble. Report all bugs preferably at upstream bugzilla [3] or Red Hat bugzilla [4]. Does this mean all apps will be latest & greatest ? My experience with GNOME upstream is that if you ar

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Gnome Test Day, October 10th

2013-10-09 Thread Alexander Todorov
На 9.10.2013 15:50, Jan Sedlak написа: Join IRC #fedora-test-day on FreeNode if you get into trouble. Report all bugs preferably at upstream bugzilla [3] or Red Hat bugzilla [4]. Does this mean all apps will be latest & greatest ? My experience with GNOME upstream is that if you are not usin

[Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Gnome Test Day, October 10th

2013-10-09 Thread Jan Sedlak
Hi, This Thursday, 10th of October, is Fedora Gnome Test day. Check out the test day page [1] if you are interested. You can test new Gnome 3.10 features [2] from Fedora 20 Live images and help to make this release better. Only YOU can test some new exciting features, including, but not only: *

Re: Gnome 3.10: Network UI missing from new system status area

2013-10-09 Thread Andre Robatino
John Morris beau.org> writes: > Screen space is valuable so removing an icon that is 'always' there and > isn't typically displaying useful information is sensible enough. Possibly a dumb question, but doesn't space have to always be available for the icon, whether it's displayed always or just

Re: Gnome 3.10: Network UI missing from new system status area

2013-10-09 Thread Kamil Paral
> Yet several times after F20 alpha live installs I've had to go manually turn > on the wired network, and the "Connect Automatically" option was unchecked. > I suppose it could be a transient or imaginary problem. If I get something > consistent I'll file a bug against network manager. I haven't