On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:07:04 -0400
Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Jan Wildeboer (jwild...@redhat.com) said:
> > How will you track blocker bugs?
> >
> > How can we see a global view of all open bugs? Aggregate from X
> > upstream bug report systems? Which not all are Bugzilla?
> >
> > How can we tra
На 24.09.2013 02:44, Jonathan Kamens написа:
2) Most Fedora users are not developers. If they have to jump through hoops to
figure out where to report bugs, then they won't report the bugs. The "one-stop
shop" that Red Hat bugzilla provides as a point of entry for all bugs that users
encounter in
On 09/24/2013 03:45 AM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 09:49:23PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
After bit of irc discussion there is a compelling reason to move
entirely away from Red Hat bugzilla as well as away from concept of
hosting our own.
...
Thoughts and comm
On 09/23/2013 11:49 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Greetings you all
After bit of irc discussion there is a compelling reason to move
entirely away from Red Hat bugzilla as well as away from concept of
hosting our own.
Now it pretty much boils down to this.
1. Generic attitude of many main
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:49:23 +
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> Greetings you all
>
> After bit of irc discussion there is a compelling reason to move
> entirely away from Red Hat bugzilla as well as away from concept of
> hosting our own.
>
There is also a thread on infra
https://lists.
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> After bit of irc discussion there is a compelling reason to move
> entirely away from Red Hat bugzilla as well as away from concept of
> hosting our own.
I don't chant that mantra.
I am a Fedora consumer, not a maintainer or programmer. My bug reports
to bugzilla
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 10:25 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
> > Ok, clever idea. Just wondering what kind of thought went into this
> > though. I can't count the times I have been ordered to 'logout and
> back
> > on' after a round of updates. Reboot? Every year Windows is
> getting a
> > little
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 16:10 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
> This mini flag day should be mentioned in the release notes.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_To_Contribute_to_the_Release_Notes?rd=Docs/Beats/HowTo#Using_.2Adocs.2A_in_Bugzilla
--
Thanks,
Warm regards,
Ankur (FranciscoD)
http:
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> Most Fedora users are not developers. If they have to jump through hoops
> to figure out where to report bugs, then they won't report the bugs. The
> "one-stop shop" that Red Hat bugzilla provides as a point of entry for all
> bugs that us
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On 09/23/2013 05:49 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> Greetings you all
>
> After bit of irc discussion there is a compelling reason to move
> entirely away from Red Hat bugzilla as well as away from concept
> of hosting our own.
>
> Now it prett
On 09/23/2013 10:03 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 09/24/2013 01:45 AM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
This absolutely does not scale from a POV of a user reporting bugs.
Well neither does it do so from developer standpoint that also has to
maintain downstream distribution bugzilla accounts.
On 09/24/2013 01:45 AM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
This absolutely does not scale from a POV of a user reporting bugs.
Well neither does it do so from developer standpoint that also has to
maintain downstream distribution bugzilla accounts.
Basically the amount of work and the effort are on pa
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 09:49:23PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>
> After bit of irc discussion there is a compelling reason to move
> entirely away from Red Hat bugzilla as well as away from concept of
> hosting our own.
...
> Thoughts and comment.
This absolutely does not scale from a
On 09/23/2013 04:58 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 09/23/2013 11:55 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
What to do when someone discovers what is clearly a problem but neither he nor
anyone reading
his report here or on devel list can tell whether the bug is in kernel, driver,
xorg,
gnome/kde/xfce/e
Does anyone know the prevalence of computers shipping with Intel Smart Response
Technology (binds SSD and HDD, using SSD as a cache) enabled? And should there
be an RFE for anaconda to identify such configurations?
There are some products that come this way, and linux does not support this.
The
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing:
Age URL
156
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-6117/eucalyptus-3.2.2-1.fc18
68
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-13131/livecd-tools-18.17-1.fc18
52
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2
On 09/23/2013 07:58 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 09/23/2013 11:55 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
What to do when someone discovers what is clearly a problem but
neither he nor anyone reading his report here or on devel list can
tell whether the bug is in kernel, driver, xorg, gnome/kde/xfce/et
On 09/23/2013 11:55 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
What to do when someone discovers what is clearly a problem but
neither he nor anyone reading his report here or on devel list can
tell whether the bug is in kernel, driver, xorg, gnome/kde/xfce/etc.
or something else?
Well I'm pretty sure upstream
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 23:21:13 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> On 09/23/2013 11:07 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> >
> > - Not all things we ship have active upstream bug trackers to fall back on
>
> What do you think that tells us about the thing we are shipping?
Nothing. There are large proje
What to do when someone discovers what is clearly a problem but neither he
nor anyone reading his report here or on devel list can tell whether the bug
is in kernel, driver, xorg, gnome/kde/xfce/etc. or something else?
--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persua
On 09/23/2013 05:49 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Greetings you all
After bit of irc discussion there is a compelling reason to move
entirely away from Red Hat bugzilla as well as away from concept of
hosting our own.
Now it pretty much boils down to this.
1. Generic attitude of many main
This is as bad of an idea now as it has been every previous time it has
been suggested.
1) Many of the bugs which get filed against Fedora are just that, Fedora
bugs, not bugs in upstream packages. Missing file in a package? Fedora
bug. Package linked against the wrong version? Fedora bug. Bug
On 09/23/2013 11:07 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Jan Wildeboer (jwild...@redhat.com) said:
How will you track blocker bugs?
How can we see a global view of all open bugs? Aggregate from X upstream bug
report systems? Which not all are Bugzilla?
How can we track critical bugs?
Additional concer
On 09/23/2013 10:59 PM, Jan Wildeboer wrote:
How will you track blocker bugs?
Given that we are the ones filling them that's should not be an hard
issue to overcome.
How can we see a global view of all open bugs? Aggregate from X upstream bug
report systems? Which not all are Bugzilla?
H
On 09/23/2013 02:14 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 10:07 +1000, Ankur Sinha wrote:
On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 15:39 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
The following script no longer
generates the vlf6.plt file as it used to. The ds5 program works
properly
when invoked from the sh
Jan Wildeboer (jwild...@redhat.com) said:
> How will you track blocker bugs?
>
> How can we see a global view of all open bugs? Aggregate from X upstream bug
> report systems? Which not all are Bugzilla?
>
> How can we track critical bugs?
Additional concerns I'd have above this:
- Not all th
On 09/23/2013 10:43 PM, nonamedotc wrote:
While I do think this is a good idea, I am a few immediate concerns on
which I would request a bit more information/guidance -
1. What if a bug is due to a specific combination libraries or builds
in Fedora and not necessarily an upstream issue?
Upst
How will you track blocker bugs?
How can we see a global view of all open bugs? Aggregate from X upstream bug
report systems? Which not all are Bugzilla?
How can we track critical bugs?
Jan
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On 09/23/2013 04:49 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Greetings you all
After bit of irc discussion there is a compelling reason to move
entirely away from Red Hat bugzilla as well as away from concept of
hosting our own.
Now it pretty much boils down to this.
1. Generic attitude of many
Greetings you all
After bit of irc discussion there is a compelling reason to move
entirely away from Red Hat bugzilla as well as away from concept of
hosting our own.
Now it pretty much boils down to this.
1. Generic attitude of many maintainers is that reports either go to the
correct pla
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 04:12:14PM +0200, poma wrote:
> file /usr/share/httrack/html;524026ec is not owned by any package
> file /usr/share/httrack/html;52402710 is not owned by any package
> file /usr/share/httrack/html;52402c94 is not owned by any package
> file /usr/share/httrack/html;52402ca4 i
On 09/20/2013 01:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 12:35 -0400, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
On 09/20/2013 11:54 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 00:56 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
It was changed because people complained about having their name visible
in public
On 09/20/2013 10:44 PM, John Morris wrote:
On Thu, 2013-09-19 at 11:02 +1000, Ankur Sinha wrote:
If there's only one user, the log out option doesn't appear and you need
to run "gnome-session-quit" in the "alt f2" command dialog to log out.
Ok, clever idea. Just wondering what kind of thought
On 23.09.2013 14:35, Christopher Meng wrote:
> I guess that this dir has immutable attr.
>
> Pure install has no problem.
>
# rpm -qf /usr/share/httrack/*
httrack-3.43.9-7.fc20.i686
file /usr/share/httrack/html;524026ec is not owned by any package
file /usr/share/httrack/html;52402710 is not owne
more things to do to prepare for it, and it's time
to look ahead to Beta as well.
This is a reminder of the upcoming QA meeting. Please add any topic
suggestions to the meeting wiki page:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130923
The current proposed agenda is included below.
== Propo
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 10:07 +1000, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 15:39 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX wrote:
> > The following script no longer
> > generates the vlf6.plt file as it used to. The ds5 program works
> > properly
> > when invoked from the shell.
> >
> > > $command =
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