Re: 2012-11-05 through 2013-01-28 - Fedora QA Meetings - recaps

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/02/2013 06:58 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 06:47 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 02/02/2013 03:20 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:.html The previous incarnation dates to July 2005:

Re: 2012-11-05 through 2013-01-28 - Fedora QA Meetings - recaps

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 06:47 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 02/02/2013 03:20 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:.html > > > > The previous incarnation dates to July 2005: > > > > > > ht

Re: 2012-11-05 through 2013-01-28 - Fedora QA Meetings - recaps

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/01/2013 07:25 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: g on. Additionally, there is some history to Bugzappers as a separate project which was before my time, but as Johann has explained it to me, it was something of a 'I'm taking my ball and going home!' thing that led to it being set up as a separate

Re: 2012-11-05 through 2013-01-28 - Fedora QA Meetings - recaps

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/02/2013 03:20 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:.html The previous incarnation dates to July 2005: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/triage

Re: 2012-11-05 through 2013-01-28 - Fedora QA Meetings - recaps

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/02/2013 02:56 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 21:42 -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi Additionally, there is some history to Bugzappers as a separate project which was before my time, but as Johann has explained it to me, it was something of a '

Re: 2012-11-05 through 2013-01-28 - Fedora QA Meetings - recaps

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/02/2013 02:42 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi > Additionally, there is some history to Bugzappers as a separate project which was before my time, but as Johann has explained it to me, it was something of a 'I'm taking my ball and going home!' thing that led to it being set up

Fedora 18 updates-testing report

2013-02-01 Thread updates
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing: Age URL 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1357/dnsmasq-2.65-4.fc18 10 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1243/rhncfg-5.10.36-1.fc18 10 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1277/

Fedora 17 updates-testing report

2013-02-01 Thread updates
The following Fedora 17 Security updates need testing: Age URL 9 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1341/tinymce-spellchecker-2.0.5-8.fc17 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1734/libupnp-1.6.18-1.fc17 10 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FED

Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2013-02-01 Thread updates
The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing: Age URL 52 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-20157/libproxy-0.4.11-1.fc16 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1748/sssd-1.8.6-1.fc16 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1713/l

Re: 2012-11-05 through 2013-01-28 - Fedora QA Meetings - recaps

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:.html > > The previous incarnation dates to July 2005: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/triage/2005-July/00.html > Since you love history, Jack

Re: 2012-11-05 through 2013-01-28 - Fedora QA Meetings - recaps

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 21:42 -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > Additionally, there is some history to Bugzappers as a separate > project > which was before my time, but as Johann has explained it to > me, it was > something of a 'I'm taking my ball and going home!' thi

Re: 2012-11-05 through 2013-01-28 - Fedora QA Meetings - recaps

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 21:42 -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > Additionally, there is some history to Bugzappers as a separate > project > which was before my time, but as Johann has explained it to > me, it was > something of a 'I'm taking my ball and going home!' thi

Re: 2012-11-05 through 2013-01-28 - Fedora QA Meetings - recaps

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi > Additionally, there is some history to Bugzappers as a separate project > which was before my time, but as Johann has explained it to me, it was > something of a 'I'm taking my ball and going home!' thing that led to it > being set up as a separate sub-project outside of QA > .IIRC Bugzappe

Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run

2013-02-01 Thread Pedro Francisco
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Kamil Paral wrote: >> /etc/pm/sleep.d/* hooks are not being run when closing the lid. >> >> For example, I just resumed my laptop and a script on >> /etc/pm/sleep.d/ >> which just logs each time it gets called has not been called. >> >> They seem to run when I sele

Draft onboarding process changes

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, folks. So I drafted up the proposed 'onboarding' changes. For now I didn't include the idea of adding people to the 'qa' FAS group: it seemed easier to get this done first, then we can do that after if we want to. Here are the proposed changes that just drop the PT and BZ 'joining' stuff, and

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 16:06 -0800, Per Bothner wrote: > On 02/01/2013 03:51 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Well, no it isn't. You might not bother to configure wireless when you > > install if you don't need it. But that just doesn't apply to this case > > at all. 'basic graphics mode' is pretty cl

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 10:44 -0800, Per Bothner wrote: > On 02/01/2013 09:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > If you have 'nomodeset' on the cmdline, you must have either set it > > yourself, or installed Fedora in 'Basic Graphics Mode', which causes > > this to happen. > > The latter might have h

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Per Bothner
On 02/01/2013 03:51 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Well, no it isn't. You might not bother to configure wireless when you install if you don't need it. But that just doesn't apply to this case at all. 'basic graphics mode' is pretty clearly positioned as a workaround for dealing with graphics problem

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 18:48 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-02-01 15:37 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed: > > > On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 15:41 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > > >> So really, to me, this suggests that we should hide the 'nomodeset' > >> install option a little better. I suspect

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 14:58 -0800, Per Bothner wrote: > On 02/01/2013 12:41 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > > (To be clear: when I said "foolishly" in my other mail, I meant it in > > the sense that we're fools for making that trap so easy to fall into. > > Apologies if offense was taken; none was intend

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-02-01 15:37 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 15:41 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: So really, to me, this suggests that we should hide the 'nomodeset' install option a little better. I suspect that showing it early in the install process suggests to people that i

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 15:41 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 10:44 -0800, Per Bothner wrote: > > > Though it seems a bug to set the installed default mode line to > > nomodeset based on whether one boots up the live DVD in basic graphics > > mode. Better to install the settings a

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Per Bothner
On 02/01/2013 12:41 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: (To be clear: when I said "foolishly" in my other mail, I meant it in the sense that we're fools for making that trap so easy to fall into. Apologies if offense was taken; none was intended.) I appreciate the clarification - I thought it seemed a bit

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 10:44 -0800, Per Bothner wrote: > Though it seems a bug to set the installed default mode line to > nomodeset based on whether one boots up the live DVD in basic graphics > mode. Better to install the settings appropriate for the hardware > *plus* some kind of "safe mode" in

Re: 2012-11-05 through 2013-01-28 - Fedora QA Meetings - recaps

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 13:10 -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > As always, minutes and IRC transcripts available on the wiki > at: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20121105 > > > > Would it be poss

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Per Bothner
On 02/01/2013 09:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: If you have 'nomodeset' on the cmdline, you must have either set it yourself, or installed Fedora in 'Basic Graphics Mode', which causes this to happen. The latter might have happened - I had various problems first copying my SSD to a new larger o

Re: 2012-11-05 through 2013-01-28 - Fedora QA Meetings - recaps

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > As always, minutes and IRC transcripts available on the wiki at: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20121105 > Would it be possible to summarize why BugZappers is getting pushed off? Thanks Rahul -- test mailing list tes

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:46 -0800, Per Bothner wrote: > That leaves the question is where did this come from in the first place? > I did a clean install of Fedora 18. However, I did have a few older > partitions on the disk, and perhaps the Fedora 18 installer used > data from those other partiti

Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2013-02-01 Thread updates
The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing: Age URL 52 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-20157/libproxy-0.4.11-1.fc16 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1748/sssd-1.8.6-1.fc16 0 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1713/l

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:46 -0800, Per Bothner wrote: > On 02/01/2013 01:16 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > > On 2013-02-01 00:47 (GMT-0800) Per Bothner composed: > > > >> Xorg.0.log is available at: http://per.bothner.com/tmp/F18-Xorg.0.log > > > > It says your cmdline contains nomodeset. > > > >> The fo

Re: Redrawing issues (was: Re: rawhide report: 20130131 changes)

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 11:11 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Personally, I see redrawing/refreshing issues in Firefox's text editor, > e.g. when adding comments for bugzilla.redhat.com. Entire lines vanish, > get replaced with something else, and simply using the mouse-wheel fixes > that already.

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 04:16 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-02-01 00:47 (GMT-0800) Per Bothner composed: > > > Xorg.0.log is available at: http://per.bothner.com/tmp/F18-Xorg.0.log > > It says your cmdline contains nomodeset. > > > The former does seem to be loading the VESA driver. > > Int

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Per Bothner
On 02/01/2013 01:16 AM, Felix Miata wrote: On 2013-02-01 00:47 (GMT-0800) Per Bothner composed: Xorg.0.log is available at: http://per.bothner.com/tmp/F18-Xorg.0.log It says your cmdline contains nomodeset. The former does seem to be loading the VESA driver. Intel driver does not work wit

Fedora 18: HFP/HSP Bluetooth Profile doesn't work with USB Bluetooth dongles

2013-02-01 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On Fedora 18 with all updates, I've tried two different USB Bluetooth dongles, one a generic Cambridge Silicon dongle and one much more expensive dongle from BlueRigger (BTD-400). With each of these two dongles, I attempted to use two different headsets with microphones. With both headsets and

Re: Redrawing issues

2013-02-01 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/01/2013 09:18 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:11:16 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:15:05 +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: clutter-1.13.4-3.fc19 - * Wed Jan 30 2013 Matthias Clasen <…> - 1.13.4-3 - Fix a gnome-shell c

Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run

2013-02-01 Thread Matthias Clasen
- Original Message - > > What has changed in f18 is that GNOME components > > (gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-shell) are now using logind, because > > it offers features that we want (inhibitors and delay inhibitors). > > upower has also been changed to use logind, and NetworkManager is > > l

Re: Redrawing issues (was: Re: rawhide report: 20130131 changes)

2013-02-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:11:16 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:15:05 +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: clutter-1.13.4-3.fc19 - * Wed Jan 30 2013 Matthias Clasen <…> - 1.13.4-3 - Fix a gnome-shell crash With the latest Rawhide updates, there are

Re: dracut-initqueue[265]: /dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-18-x86_64-Live-Desktop.is does not exist.

2013-02-01 Thread Namikaze Minato
News from me again. I tried a fresh install with secure boot from the DVD. That works well i.e. I can boot on the livecd and install fedora but I encountered two problems: 1) Computer won't boot automatically. I have to go each time in the boot menu, choose to "boot from EFI file" (instead of the

Redrawing issues (was: Re: rawhide report: 20130131 changes)

2013-02-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:15:05 +, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote: > clutter-1.13.4-3.fc19 > - > * Wed Jan 30 2013 Matthias Clasen <…> - 1.13.4-3 > - Fix a gnome-shell crash With the latest Rawhide updates, there are strange screen redrawing issues here. Starting with GDM, which

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-02-01 00:47 (GMT-0800) Per Bothner composed: Xorg.0.log is available at: http://per.bothner.com/tmp/F18-Xorg.0.log It says your cmdline contains nomodeset. The former does seem to be loading the VESA driver. Intel driver does not work with nomodeset on cmdline, so X falls back to

Re: F18: when closing the lid, pm/sleep.d hooks not being run

2013-02-01 Thread Kamil Paral
> What has changed in f18 is that GNOME components > (gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-shell) are now using logind, because > it offers features that we want (inhibitors and delay inhibitors). > upower has also been changed to use logind, and NetworkManager is > listening for PrepareForSleep. NM shoul

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Per Bothner
On 02/01/2013 12:25 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: well, for a start, Xorg.0.log and xrandr output would probably help. The graphical tools are too high level to tell us much of use. ajax may have some ideas regarding optimus specifically, I'm still pretty clueless on debugging that. Xorg.0.log is

Re: F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 00:10 -0800, Per Bothner wrote: > [Officially off-topic, as this is a problem with Fedora 18, not testing. > I'm afraid I didn't get a chance to try out F18 before it was released. > Next time ...] > > I have a major F18 regression, which makes it unusable: The Gnome/X11 > en

F18 doesn't see full laptop screen resolution

2013-02-01 Thread Per Bothner
[Officially off-topic, as this is a problem with Fedora 18, not testing. I'm afraid I didn't get a chance to try out F18 before it was released. Next time ...] I have a major F18 regression, which makes it unusable: The Gnome/X11 environment sets the screen resolution 10 1280x1024 - but the actua