Re: boot.iso vs netinst.iso vs efiboot.img

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2013, at 5:43 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2013-01-26 13:05 (GMT-0700) Chris Murphy composed: > >> If time is money, and the choice is a matter of cost, then DVD is expensive. > > Some consider time spent managing the actual media. DVD's are easily stored > and labeled as to what th

Re: boot.iso vs netinst.iso vs efiboot.img

2013-01-26 Thread Felix Miata
On 2013-01-26 13:05 (GMT-0700) Chris Murphy composed: If time is money, and the choice is a matter of cost, then DVD is expensive. Some consider time spent managing the actual media. DVD's are easily stored and labeled as to what they contain. USB devices in all their assorted shapes and siz

Re: boot.iso vs netinst.iso vs efiboot.img

2013-01-26 Thread moshe nahmias
Hi, I'm new here and just sent the introduction mail so I hope I don't do something horribly wrong here... I see that some of the debate here is that the documentation is not full enough (uefi stuff), if I am right on this then I think the best way to handle it will be to include the relevant para

Introduction

2013-01-26 Thread moshe nahmias
Hi, I started working with fedora about half a year ago and wanted to contribute but didn't take the required step to start doing it so now I am doing it at last. I started working with fedora as my operating system with f17 beta. My experience with linux started with ubuntu and I used it for abou

Re: boot.iso vs netinst.iso vs efiboot.img

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2013, at 12:06 PM, John Reiser wrote: > It's a matter of cost, which varies. My out-of-pocket expense > of burning "4x" DVD+RW (@ $0.24) has been about the same as using USB stick > (@ $12.) > I've had USB sticks wear out (bit errors, and not from too many writes) > after some years

Re: boot.iso vs netinst.iso vs efiboot.img

2013-01-26 Thread John Reiser
> Yeah OK but the first media recommended is still DVD/CD which also doesn't > allow for persistent user data. The modern equivalent is to dd to a USB > stick. In fact I think this idea of burning actual media is immensely > wasteful and archaic and shouldn't be the first recommended media anymo

Re: boot.iso vs netinst.iso vs efiboot.img

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jan 26, 2013, at 10:30 AM, John Reiser wrote: >> dd is recommended dead last, really? > > Under some conditions, livecd-iso-to-disk can be a lot faster because it uses > rsync > to update an existing Packages directory. So if you have a USB stick of full > install > for RC1, then running

Re: boot.iso vs netinst.iso vs efiboot.img

2013-01-26 Thread John Reiser
> dd is recommended dead last, really? Under some conditions, livecd-iso-to-disk can be a lot faster because it uses rsync to update an existing Packages directory. So if you have a USB stick of full install for RC1, then running livecd-iso-to-disk using RC2.iso will transfer only updated fil

proper cross linking bugs upstream

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
What field should I enter in bugzilla to link it to an upstream bug? e.g. GRUB. Should I use URL or See Also? Or does it not matter? Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

boot.iso vs netinst.iso vs efiboot.img

2013-01-26 Thread Chris Murphy
Documentation says to use boot.iso to create minimal boot media for BIOS, and efiboot.img for UEFI. This appears to be outdated but I need some clarification on a few things before taking it up with the docs team. Here is the docs page for reference, I'm referring to the preface and the matrix:

Fedora 18 updates-testing report

2013-01-26 Thread updates
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing: Age URL 7 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-0907/moodle-2.3.4-1.fc18 3 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1176/ndjbdns-1.05.6-1.fc18 6 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1169/

Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2013-01-26 Thread updates
The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing: Age URL 46 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-20157/libproxy-0.4.11-1.fc16 7 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-0915/moodle-2.1.10-1.fc16 6 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-11

Fedora 17 updates-testing report

2013-01-26 Thread updates
The following Fedora 17 Security updates need testing: Age URL 2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1341/tinymce-spellchecker-2.0.5-8.fc17 6 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-1076/drupal7-7.19-1.fc17 7 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDOR

Rawhide Critical-Path @installed How?

2013-01-26 Thread Frank Murphy
I ran repoquery -q @critical-path-xfce got back xfce-session\settings. How can I work out what critpath, I have installed, as against the repos. tried "repoquery -q @critical-path-base | grep @installed" similar commands tried -- Regards, Frank http//www.frankly3d.com -- test mailing list test@

New BugZapper Introduction

2013-01-26 Thread Nicholas Alonge
Hey, I'm Nick and I'm a web and mobile applications developer with probably a little too much time on his hands :D. I'm relatively new to Fedora, but not new to Linux (or bug triage) in general. I started using Fedora with Fedora 17, and Fedora 18 sealed the deal for me! (what can I say, I got fe