Proposal: retire proventesters and bugzappers onboarding processes harder, create new QA onboarding process

2013-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey folks! Here's another thing that's been on my todo list for a while. So we still get proventester and bugzapper membership requests regularly, and poor old dr johnson and to a small degree myself laboriously go around telling people 'hi, thanks for joining, but that cake was a lie! please come

Re: F18: updates-testing not being disabled

2013-01-24 Thread Pedro Francisco
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:32:14 + > Pedro Francisco wrote: > >> I have updates-testing enabled on my even after installing >> fedora-release-18-1 >> which does "disable updates-testing" [1]. >> >> $ sudo yum reinstall fedora-release >> does

Re: F18: updates-testing not being disabled

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 00:32:14 + Pedro Francisco wrote: > I have updates-testing enabled on my even after installing > fedora-release-18-1 > which does "disable updates-testing" [1]. > > $ sudo yum reinstall fedora-release > does not replace the files nor disables updates-testing. > > $ sudo

Re: [rawhide] Re: Rawhide heads up: Booting in enforcing mode doesn't seem to work

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:45:57 -0500 Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Well we did test this but not on a reboot, actually found the problem > early in the morning and fixed it but rawhide had already pushed. Would changing the time on rawhide help catch these any better? or it doesn't matter? kevin sign

Fedora 16 updates-testing report

2013-01-24 Thread updates
The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing: Age URL 12 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2013-0723/thunderbird-17.0.2-1.fc16 44 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-20157/libproxy-0.4.11-1.fc16 6 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-20

Re: dracut-initqueue[265]: /dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-18-x86_64-Live-Desktop.is does not exist.

2013-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 07:00 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: > > > Images written with liveusb-creator are not UEFI bootable, this is > > > known. > > > > Well, I didn't hear about that, where is that written (no offense, of > > course)? At least not on the download page or tutorial on how to use > > the

Re: [rawhide] Re: Rawhide heads up: Booting in enforcing mode doesn't seem to work

2013-01-24 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/24/2013 03:26 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 14:45:57 -0500, Daniel J Walsh > wrote: >> >> Well we did test this but not on a reboot, actually found the problem >> early in the morning and fixed it but rawhide had already

Re: Noveau and Rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 09:21:45 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: When will rawhide's Wine be fixed? Wine has had broken deps for days. You can install most of wine, just not 'wine'. The 'wine' package doesn't have any files in it, so things should work unless you specifically n

[Fedora QA] #335: Implement FAS Integration for Login

2013-01-24 Thread Fedora QA
#335: Implement FAS Integration for Login --+ Reporter: tflink| Owner: tflink Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 19 Component:

[Fedora QA] #334: Implement Blocker/FE Proposal Page

2013-01-24 Thread Fedora QA
#334: Implement Blocker/FE Proposal Page --+ Reporter: tflink| Owner: tflink Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 19 Component:

Re: Anyone else seeing yum running slow in rawhide?

2013-01-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:01:32 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: For about the last month or so it seems like yum has been running much slower than in the past. Previously I had seen something similar when running debug kernels, but that isn't the case now. Things seem to be working much bett

Re: Using flags for blocker bug tracking

2013-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 10:17 -0700, Tim Flink wrote: > > There are two ways we could do flags that I can see: > > > > 1) Create a set of six unversioned flags, using the name format we > > came up with for the blocker aliases (AlphaBlocker, > > AlphaFreezeException, BetaBlocker...), and use the Ve

Re: Using flags for blocker bug tracking

2013-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 06:50 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote: > > 1) Create a set of six unversioned flags, using the name format we > > came > > up with for the blocker aliases (AlphaBlocker, AlphaFreezeException, > > BetaBlocker...), and use the Version: field to track the version > > being > > blocked (

Re: [rawhide] Re: Rawhide heads up: Booting in enforcing mode doesn't seem to work

2013-01-24 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/24/2013 11:35 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:32:06 -0500 Daniel J Walsh > wrote: > >> Update libselinux. There was a new bug in libselinux that was causing >> systemd to label stuff incorrectly, it is fixed in the current libs

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Patrick Lists
On 01/24/2013 09:58 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: [snip] do you volunteer to maintain and test MySQL? If I find a volunteer, will you continue shipping it?. It's not a question of shipping. Just find a packager who will maintain the MySQL RPM and makes sure it's updated via Koji etc. And if the

Fedora on 686

2013-01-24 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
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Re: Anyone tried Fedora 18 on Dell R815

2013-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-01-18 at 00:58 +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > Hello, > sort of off-topic as F18 has been released, but here probably other > ones tested on this kind of server during release cycle > > > I start from DVD iso on iDRAC and after selecting install > (both nomal/default and troubleshoot

Re: Using flags for blocker bug tracking

2013-01-24 Thread Tim Flink
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 06:50:39 -0500 (EST) Kamil Paral wrote: > > It's also worth considering the possibility that blocker tracking > > could > > be moved out of BZ itself and into the blocker webapp; this has > > several > > advantages, like better integration with the webapp, reducing BZ > > spa

Re: Proposing Blocker/Freeze Exception Bugs Through the Blocker Tracking App

2013-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 10:02 -0700, Tim Flink wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 05:53:35 -0500 (EST) > Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > [1] http://tirfa.com/proposing-blocker-bugs.html > > > > * I agree that we need FAS<->Bugzilla integration, not just for this > > purpose, but for many purposes. I think a

Noveau and Rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
I have been running rawhide on my office machine for a few days now. Given that Wine won't install and the possibility of missing screensavers, I have set up as close to the same test environment as possible to the one that quite reliably crashed Noveau.So far no apparent Noveau problems. BTW

Re: Using flags for blocker bug tracking

2013-01-24 Thread Tim Flink
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 18:47:44 -0800 Adam Williamson wrote: > Hey, folks. So I just wanted to kick off a discussion on the merits or > otherwise of using flags for tracking blocker bugs. > > If you're not aware how Bugzilla flags work, > http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/4.4/en/html/flags-overview.html

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 12:24 +0100, drago01 wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 05:58 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > >> > > >> > because resources are limited > >> > >> I´ll have to t

Re: Proposing Blocker/Freeze Exception Bugs Through the Blocker Tracking App

2013-01-24 Thread Tim Flink
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 05:53:35 -0500 (EST) Kamil Paral wrote: > > [1] http://tirfa.com/proposing-blocker-bugs.html > > * I agree that we need FAS<->Bugzilla integration, not just for this > purpose, but for many purposes. I think a simple additional field in > FAS where you could specify your Bugz

Re: [rawhide] Re: Rawhide heads up: Booting in enforcing mode doesn't seem to work

2013-01-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:35:03 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:32:06 -0500 > Daniel J Walsh wrote: > > Perhaps some early testers could pick it out of koji after it's > built? > > kevin I usually do, I run pure koji, but got sidetracked. -- Regards, Frank ln -s http//www.

Re: [rawhide] Re: Rawhide heads up: Booting in enforcing mode doesn't seem to work

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:32:06 -0500 Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Update libselinux. There was a new bug in libselinux that was > causing systemd to label stuff incorrectly, it is fixed in the > current libselinux in rawhide. > > libselinux-2.1.12-18.fc19 > > Sorry for the breakage. Is there any way

Re: [rawhide] Re: Rawhide heads up: Booting in enforcing mode doesn't seem to work

2013-01-24 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/24/2013 10:10 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:11:31 -0600 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >> To reboot I need to use the enforcing=0 kernel parameter. Switch to >> enforcing after booting seems to work. This is filed as bug 903486 >>

[rawhide] Re: Rawhide heads up: Booting in enforcing mode doesn't seem to work

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:11:31 -0600 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > To reboot I need to use the enforcing=0 kernel parameter. Switch to > enforcing after booting seems to work. This is filed as bug 903486 > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=903486). > > I have also tried the selinux build fr

Re: Rawhide heads up: Booting in enforcing mode doesn't seem to work

2013-01-24 Thread Tom London
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > To reboot I need to use the enforcing=0 kernel parameter. Switch to > enforcing after booting seems to work. This is filed as bug 903486 > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=903486). > > I have also tried the selinux build from t

rawhide report: 20130124 changes

2013-01-24 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Jan 24 08:15:08 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [bootconf] bootconf-1.4-6.fc18.noarch requires grub [epiphany-extensions] epiphany-extensions-3.6.0-1.fc19.x86_64 requires epiphany(abi) = 0:3.6 [fatrat

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > Dne Čt 24. ledna 2013 13:25:08, drago01 napsal(a): >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Karel Volný wrote: >> > Dne Čt 24. ledna 2013 12:24:33, drago01 napsal(a): >> >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Adam Williamson >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Karel Volný
Dne Čt 24. ledna 2013 13:25:08, drago01 napsal(a): > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > > Dne Čt 24. ledna 2013 12:24:33, drago01 napsal(a): > >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Adam Williamson > > > > wrote: > >> > I quote from the feature page: > >> > > >> > "Recent chang

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 05:58:00 -0300 Fernando Cassia wrote: > As one commenter says > "Oracle is using RHEL source code to create Oracle Enterprise Linux > and compete directly with Red Hat's server products. Shock horror, no idea where this Cent or Scientific stuff came from? Thus, one can > ea

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Karel Volný
Dne Čt 24. ledna 2013 05:58:00, Fernando Cassia napsal(a): > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > > because resources are limited > > I´ll have to trust your word. > > > do you volunteer to maintain and test MySQL? > > If I find a volunteer, will you continue shipping it?. we

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 05:58 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Karel Volný > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > because resources are limited > >> > >> I´ll have to trust your word

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > Dne Čt 24. ledna 2013 12:24:33, drago01 napsal(a): >> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Adam Williamson > wrote: >> > I quote from the feature page: >> > >> > "Recent changes made by Oracle indicate they are moving the MySQL >> > project to be

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Karel Volný
Dne Čt 24. ledna 2013 12:24:33, drago01 napsal(a): > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > I quote from the feature page: > > > > "Recent changes made by Oracle indicate they are moving the MySQL > > project to be more closed. They are no longer publishing any useful > > i

Re: dracut-initqueue[265]: /dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-18-x86_64-Live-Desktop.is does not exist.

2013-01-24 Thread Kamil Paral
> > Images written with liveusb-creator are not UEFI bootable, this is > > known. > > Well, I didn't hear about that, where is that written (no offense, of > course)? At least not on the download page or tutorial on how to use > the iso > (http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Install

Re: Using flags for blocker bug tracking

2013-01-24 Thread Kamil Paral
> 1) Create a set of six unversioned flags, using the name format we > came > up with for the blocker aliases (AlphaBlocker, AlphaFreezeException, > BetaBlocker...), and use the Version: field to track the version > being > blocked (so a bug with Version: 18 and AlphaBlocker+ is an accepted > block

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 12:24:33 +0100 > drago01 wrote: > > >> >> The reply from Andrew renders this moot. If upstream is willing to >> maintain MySQL in Fedora then the whole "replace it because it is >> hard to maintain" does not make sense. W

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 12:24:33 +0100 drago01 wrote: > > The reply from Andrew renders this moot. If upstream is willing to > maintain MySQL in Fedora then the whole "replace it because it is > hard to maintain" does not make sense. We should either stay with > MySQL or ship both but there is no r

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 05:58 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Karel Volný wrote: >> > >> > because resources are limited >> >> I´ll have to trust your word. >> >> > do you volunteer to maintain and test My

Re: Proposing Blocker/Freeze Exception Bugs Through the Blocker Tracking App

2013-01-24 Thread Kamil Paral
> [1] http://tirfa.com/proposing-blocker-bugs.html * I agree that we need FAS<->Bugzilla integration, not just for this purpose, but for many purposes. I think a simple additional field in FAS where you could specify your Bugzilla login would be a great step forward. But ideally you would as we

Re: dracut-initqueue[265]: /dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-18-x86_64-Live-Desktop.is does not exist.

2013-01-24 Thread Namikaze Minato
On 18 January 2013 21:39, Adam Williamson wrote: > Are you sure you tried a dd written stick? Yes. But maybe my USB key failed me at that time... > Images written with liveusb-creator are not UEFI bootable, this is known. Well, I didn't hear about that, where is that written (no offense, of cou

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 05:58 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > > > > because resources are limited > > I´ll have to trust your word. > > > do you volunteer to maintain and test MySQL? > > If I find a volunteer, will you continue shipping it?.

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Replace MySQL with MariaDB

2013-01-24 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Karel Volný wrote: > > because resources are limited I´ll have to trust your word. > do you volunteer to maintain and test MySQL? If I find a volunteer, will you continue shipping it?. I smell a proxy war against Oracle for their Oracle Linux efforts, totally