Re: An arbitrarily sized /tmp does not fit all

2012-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/22/2012 08:22 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2012-12-22 at 08:15 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/20/2012 11:46 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 12/20/2012 09:03 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: For whatever reason Anaconda generates a separate file system for /tmp usin

Re: An arbitrarily sized /tmp does not fit all

2012-12-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2012-12-22 at 08:15 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 12/20/2012 11:46 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 12/20/2012 09:03 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: > >> For whatever reason Anaconda generates a separate file system for /tmp > >> using an arbitrary size. One one machin

Re: An arbitrarily sized /tmp does not fit all

2012-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/20/2012 11:46 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 12/20/2012 09:03 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: For whatever reason Anaconda generates a separate file system for /tmp using an arbitrary size. One one machine it is about 4GB, causing Brasero to fail on larger jobs. Meanwhile

Re: firefox does not start using an icon anymore

2012-12-21 Thread Joachim Backes
On 12/22/2012 01:07 AM, Julian Sikorski wrote: > W dniu 22.12.2012 00:17, Julian Sikorski pisze: >> Hi, >> >> it seems that firefox has decided not to launch [1] when started from a >> gnome-shell desktop file anymore. Obviously, to make it more fun, when I do: >> $ killall firefox >> $ firefox >>

Re: An arbitrarily sized /tmp does not fit all

2012-12-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 12/20/2012 11:17 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >> >> I believe the argument is that if Brasero needs more space, /var/tmp would >> be a better place. > > This is a fine example of what a facepalm (to put it mildly) the whole > /tmp-on-tmpfs

Re: firefox does not start using an icon anymore

2012-12-21 Thread Julian Sikorski
W dniu 22.12.2012 00:17, Julian Sikorski pisze: > Hi, > > it seems that firefox has decided not to launch [1] when started from a > gnome-shell desktop file anymore. Obviously, to make it more fun, when I do: > $ killall firefox > $ firefox > from gnome-terminal, everything is dandy, making it rea

Re: PackageKit Software Updates window flood

2012-12-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 13:05 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > The PackageKit based Updates Installer in GNOME Shell here just opened > dozens of small dialogs at the end after installing today's updates, > requiring me to click many times to close them one after the other. > > {...} > > Then, when

firefox does not start using an icon anymore

2012-12-21 Thread Julian Sikorski
Hi, it seems that firefox has decided not to launch [1] when started from a gnome-shell desktop file anymore. Obviously, to make it more fun, when I do: $ killall firefox $ firefox from gnome-terminal, everything is dandy, making it really fun to debug. Today's update: Dec 21 07:20:30 Updated: bt

Re: Unable to install from iso

2012-12-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 10:23 +0100, A.J. Werkman wrote: > Hi, > > In F18 I have not been able to install from harddisk. I filed bug > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855513. I thought there was > a blocker bug for not beeing able to install from iso-image, but I can't > find it anymo

F18 Final Blocker Bug Review #7 Minutes

2012-12-21 Thread Tim Flink
= #fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-7 = This was an unscheduled meeting, so there was no announcement - we just needed to get through some of these and enough people were around to do a meeting. Minu

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2012-12-21 Thread Βασίλης Βυζάς
Hello people, I just created my FAS account and I am happy that I can contribute to the project. I am more interested in testing updates, doing some research I saw that I have to create an account at bohdi and do the testing from there. Is this right?? I believe I will need a mentor for the beginni

Re: An arbitrarily sized /tmp does not fit all

2012-12-21 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
On 2012-12-21, Matthew Miller wrote: > Although apparently we now need PROBABLYINMEMORYTMPDIR and > PROBABLYONDISKWITHMORESPACEANDALONGERLIFETMPDIR. I dunno. You may need to set TMPDIR per-application depending on your requirements. But honestly that's the state of things even without putting /

Re: An arbitrarily sized /tmp does not fit all

2012-12-21 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 08:08:08PM +, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote: > > including shell environment variable TMPDIR (colon-separated list of > > directories) > According to mktemp(1), TMPDIR is a single directory, not a > colon-separated list. But otherwise, yes, it would be nice if > everythin

Re: An arbitrarily sized /tmp does not fit all

2012-12-21 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
On 2012-12-21, John Reiser wrote: >> Brasero should be checking the size beforehand, checking available >> writable-by-user space, > > including shell environment variable TMPDIR (colon-separated list of > directories) According to mktemp(1), TMPDIR is a single directory, not a colon-separated

Re: What has changed and/or how to control

2012-12-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/22/2012 03:42 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 03:15:05 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 12/22/2012 03:11 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> [egreshko@localhost ~]$ 八 >>> bash: 八: command not found... True, but F18 does not do that, because there is a bug somewhere. I can

Re: An arbitrarily sized /tmp does not fit all

2012-12-21 Thread John Reiser
> Brasero should be checking the size beforehand, checking available > writable-by-user space, including shell environment variable TMPDIR (colon-separated list of directories) > and doing the right thing for the user (including > asking them where appropriate) ... -- t

Re: What has changed and/or how to control

2012-12-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 22 Dec 2012 03:15:05 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/22/2012 03:11 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > [egreshko@localhost ~]$ 八 > > bash: 八: command not found... > > > True, but F18 does not do that, because there is a bug somewhere. > > > I can reproduce it here, too. > > What do you mean "doe

Re: What has changed and/or how to control

2012-12-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/22/2012 03:11 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> True, but F18 does not do that, because there is a bug somewhere. >> > I can reproduce it here, too. > What do you mean "does not do that"? What I am showing above *is* on an F18 > system. "After the install of PackageKit-c-n-f " got dropped --

Re: What has changed and/or how to control

2012-12-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/22/2012 01:52 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 22:29:18 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >>> It's an optional extension to search for missing commands in remote >>> repositories (via PackageKit). Many users uninstall it because it >>> has caused side-effects, such as delays or alte

Re: An arbitrarily sized /tmp does not fit all

2012-12-21 Thread Bill Nottingham
Panu Matilainen (pmati...@laiskiainen.org) said: > >Check the filesystem -- it's in RAM by default using tmpfs, and tmpfs > >defaults to a size of half of physical ram. To disable and go back to haivng > >it be part of /, > > > > sudo systemctl mask tmp.mount > > > >To change the limit while le

Re: does final criteria #8 mean lvm-on-raid must be available?

2012-12-21 Thread Lars Kellogg-Stedman
On 2012-12-20, Matthew Miller wrote: > I tried to make a mirrored /boot partition, and then a second mirrored > partition with an LVM volume group on top of that (including / and /home > partitions). The current UI doesn't offer this, although it was easy to do > in the old one. I find this parti

Re: PSA: updates-testing default disabled now

2012-12-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 18:28:42 +, Nelson Marques wrote: Question: Does this affect mock builds on koji ? I don't think so. koji builds only use what's in stable and explicit overrides. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ma

Re: GNOME3 fallback mode in F18: No switch to logout

2012-12-21 Thread Tim Flink
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:09:57 +0100 Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi testers, > > did anybody to logout after opening a gnome session in the fallback > mode? I didn't find some menu entry to logout from such a fallback > session. > > The only possibility is to kill gdm which will close the fallback >

Re: GNOME3 fallback mode in F18: No switch to logout

2012-12-21 Thread drago01
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi testers, > > did anybody to logout after opening a gnome session in the fallback > mode? I didn't find some menu entry to logout from such a fallback session. > > The only possibility is to kill gdm which will close the fallback > session

GNOME3 fallback mode in F18: No switch to logout

2012-12-21 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi testers, did anybody to logout after opening a gnome session in the fallback mode? I didn't find some menu entry to logout from such a fallback session. The only possibility is to kill gdm which will close the fallback session :-( Anybody sees this too? Kind regards Joachim Backes https:/

Re: What has changed and/or how to control

2012-12-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 22:29:18 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > It's an optional extension to search for missing commands in remote > > repositories (via PackageKit). Many users uninstall it because it > > has caused side-effects, such as delays or altered messages or it > > fails always because the def

PSA: updates-testing default disabled now

2012-12-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Just a heads up to everyone using f18 right now: with fedora-release-18-1 that just pushed out to updates-testing yesterday, the updates-testing repo is now by default disabled. This means you may well see some issues trying to install new packages/groups because you have NEWER packages from up

Lag in system sounds

2012-12-21 Thread Martin Airs
Good day all, Since updating to F18, I've noticed that system sounds for things like minimize and maximize and change desktop, take at least 2-3 seconds to occur. This is in KDE 4.9.90 btw I think it may be something to do with pulseaudio not having realtime privileges or whatever the correct

Re: imsettings

2012-12-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:49:11 +0100 Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Reminds me about asking: Why is updates-testing still activated by > default in current f18? It's to some extend appropriate in early > development phases, but I don't see any real sense for it in late > phases, like the one at the mom

Re: sshd and LiveCDs

2012-12-21 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:13:00 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > I don't normally install from LiveCDs but I did so today to get KDE > without GNOME. I was surprised to find that when all was installed > that sshd service was disabled. Does anyone know the logic behind > that choice? sshd is disabled on

Re: What has changed and/or how to control

2012-12-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/21/2012 07:38 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:26:47 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 12/21/2012 06:51 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: >>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:44:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> I've not run into this beforeso I'm baffled. On my F17 system

F-18 Branched report: 20121221 changes

2012-12-21 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Dec 21 09:16:15 UTC 2012 Updated Packages: fedmsg-0.6.3-1.fc18 --- * Wed Dec 05 2012 Ralph Bean - 0.6.3-1 - Use python-logutils for dictConfig on py2.6. - Attempt to fixup rhel conditionals. - Added test dependency on python-six and python-mock. * W

Re: imsettings

2012-12-21 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 20.12.2012 22:53, Gene Czarcinski wrote: > There are updates available for imsettings. But, something is messed > up with a dependency problem. > > This means that you cannot update a current F18beta. > > This means that an install fails because of it. > > The claim is that imsettings-desktop-m

PackageKit Software Updates window flood

2012-12-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
The PackageKit based Updates Installer in GNOME Shell here just opened dozens of small dialogs at the end after installing today's updates, requiring me to click many times to close them one after the other. {...} Then, when I wanted to start that program manually for a brief check whether it st

Re: imsettings

2012-12-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/20/2012 11:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 16:53 -0500, Gene Czarcinski wrote: There are updates available for imsettings. But, something is messed up with a dependency problem. This means that you cannot update a current F18beta. This means that an install fails bec

Re: What has changed and/or how to control

2012-12-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:26:47 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 12/21/2012 06:51 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:44:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > >> I've not run into this beforeso I'm baffled. > >> > >> On my F17 system I get this, and it is what I expect. > >> > >> [egr

Re: imsettings

2012-12-21 Thread Shozo Namikawa (snamikawa)
Thanks for your efforts, 1) resolved imsettings's repository issue. [generic@localhost ~]$ yum list imsetting* Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit Installed Packages imsettings.x86_64 1.5.1-2.fc18 @updates-testing imsettings-gnome.x86_64 1.5.1-2.fc18 @updates-testing imsettings

Re: What has changed and/or how to control

2012-12-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/21/2012 06:51 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:44:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> I've not run into this beforeso I'm baffled. >> >> On my F17 system I get this, and it is what I expect. >> >> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ 八 >> bash: 八: command not found... >> >> However, on m

Re: imsettings

2012-12-21 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 02:12:37PM +0900, generic wrote: > (2012/12/21 6:53), Gene Czarcinski wrote: > > There are updates available for imsettings.  But, something is messed up > with a dependency problem. > > This means that you cannot update a current F18beta. I just removed im-se

Re: What has changed and/or how to control

2012-12-21 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:44:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > I've not run into this beforeso I'm baffled. > > On my F17 system I get this, and it is what I expect. > > [egreshko@meimei ~]$ 八 > bash: 八: command not found... > > However, on my F18 test VM I get this. > > [egreshko@localhost ~]$ 八

Re: Uh-oh something has gone wrong....

2012-12-21 Thread Kalev Lember
On 12/19/2012 08:31 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > After installing updates from rawhide 20121219 had to revert clutter, > clutter-gtk and mutter to get desktop back. Don't know what is causing > this or who to bz. If anyone knows, tell me and I will bz. Hi Clyde, I think I've fixed this up. Ther

Firefox no more starts if called by the gnome3 dashboard after having applied all updates this morning

2012-12-21 Thread Joachim Backes
Hi testers, after having applied all most recent F18 updates this morning, it's no more possible to start firefox by the gnome3 dashboard. It seems it dies immediately after start. I found out that firefox still runs normally if started inside a terminal. So I edited the firefox dashboard entry w

Unable to install from iso

2012-12-21 Thread A.J. Werkman
Hi, In F18 I have not been able to install from harddisk. I filed bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855513. I thought there was a blocker bug for not beeing able to install from iso-image, but I can't find it anymore. Is there a blocker present for not being able to install fro

Re: sshd and LiveCDs

2012-12-21 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 12/21/2012 02:13 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: I don't normally install from LiveCDs but I did so today to get KDE without GNOME. I was surprised to find that when all was installed that sshd service was disabled. Does anyone know the logic behind that choice? Each spin sig decides on their own

Re: An arbitrarily sized /tmp does not fit all

2012-12-21 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 12/20/2012 11:17 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 01:03:37PM -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: For whatever reason Anaconda generates a separate file system for /tmp using an arbitrary size. One one machine it is about 4GB, causing Brasero to fail on larger jobs. M