[Test-Announce] 2012-11-12 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2012-11-11 Thread Tim Flink
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2012-11-12 # Time: 16:00 UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! It's meeting time again tomorrow. Adam won't be around for it because Monday is a holiday in Canada b

Re: post install very slooow

2012-11-11 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012, drago01 wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 4:42 PM, John Reiser wrote: I noticed the post install processing in f16 lasted only a few seconds, not the seemingly interminable wait a Fedora 18 install takes. If you have many partitions, then the grub2 operating system probe

Re: Floppies available

2012-11-11 Thread Bob Cochran
On 11/11/12 11:26 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 11/11/2012 05:51 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: I am sure someone else must have punch cards too FC Actually I do. For nostalgia reasons, an IBM 1401 Autocoder Q two pass assembler in brown Hollerith cards. No blank cards tho. They used to

Re: post install very slooow

2012-11-11 Thread John Reiser
On 11/10/2012 08:15 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > That's fine and interesting, but we switched to grub2 in F16. The original > poster was comparing F18 to F16, and I compared F18 to F17 and found F18 > slower. grub2 vs. grub1 cannot logically explain differences between releases > from F16 onward

Re: F18 default /etc/default/grub, please?

2012-11-11 Thread Sergio
--- Em dom, 11/11/12, Frank Murphy escreveu: > De: Frank Murphy > Assunto: Re: F18 default /etc/default/grub, please? > Para: test@lists.fedoraproject.org > Cc: sergiocmailbox-us...@yahoo.com.br > Data: Domingo, 11 de Novembro de 2012, 13:00 > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:57:02 -0800 > (PST) > Sergi

Re: How to interpret F18 Blocker criterion

2012-11-11 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> I can make strong cases for many things we cannot scale to. I'd love to >> see those pushing for this to actually step up and do it. Get testcases >> written, form groups of triagers, just run the damn tests regardless of >> criteria st

Re: OT Re: Floppies available

2012-11-11 Thread Arnav Kalra
haha, looks like you're talking about things older than me. p.s. i am not even 16. Regards, Arnav Kalra On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:26 PM, laurence orchard wrote: > > On 11/11/2012 10:53, Frank Murphy wrote: > >> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:51:27 -0300 >> Fernando Cassia wrote: >> >> On Sat, Nov

Fedora 18 updates-testing report

2012-11-11 Thread updates
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing: Age URL 33 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15716/libxslt-1.1.27-2.fc18 2 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-17513/system-config-users-1.3.1-1.fc18 1 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FE

TC8

2012-11-11 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
I downloaded the TC8 DVD image and set it up for pxeboot install. The install startup took an unusually long time to get on with it. It appears to be taking longer to deal with USB ports. The installed kernel does the same thing. I could net get Anaconda to recliam space. After a few attempts I

Re: post install very slooow

2012-11-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012-11-11 11:39 (GMT+0100) Chris Murphy composed: John Reiser wrote: 36 partitions? Really? I thought GPT's 128+ partitions is actually an inside joke, ergo "you know if we give users this particular hurt me button, some will actually try it." 45 partitions across 4 drives in one box,

Re: How to interpret F18 Blocker criterion

2012-11-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On 2012-11-11 5:00, Josh Boyer wrote: Yes, I'm aware of that. The problem space here is "what is Fedora's perception, fitting in within the confines of our rules, community, and abilities." As far as I'm aware, there is nothing in our rules or our communities that makes hard requirements a

Re: Floppies available

2012-11-11 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 11/11/2012 05:51 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: I am sure someone else must have punch cards too FC Actually I do. For nostalgia reasons, an IBM 1401 Autocoder Q two pass assembler in brown Hollerith cards. No blank cards tho. They used to make great note cards since they fit nicely i

Re: F18 default /etc/default/grub, please?

2012-11-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:57:02 -0800 (PST) Sergio wrote: > > > --- Em dom, 11/11/12, Sergio > I'll try replacing it with 'rd.plymouth=1' for next boot. maybe for plymouth "plymouth.enable=1" no plymouth "plymouth.enable=0" -- Regards, Frank -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F18 default /etc/default/grub, please?

2012-11-11 Thread Sergio
--- Em dom, 11/11/12, Sergio escreveu: > De: Sergio > Assunto: F18 default /etc/default/grub, please? > Para: test@lists.fedoraproject.org > Data: Domingo, 11 de Novembro de 2012, 11:20 > Hi. > I'm facing an issue that if I leave 'rghb' in the boot line > (loads plymouth) the fonts in the virt

Re: How to interpret F18 Blocker criterion

2012-11-11 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/11/2012 01:00 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On 2012-11-10 9:36, Josh Boyer wrote: Now, if you want to debate the usefulness of those options, fine. Xen sucks. I wasn't thrilled with _it_ being made a criteria either, but hey it's there no

rawhide report: 20121111 changes

2012-11-11 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sun Nov 11 08:15:08 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [LabPlot] LabPlot-1.6.0.2-12.fc18.i686 requires libaudiofile.so.0 LabPlot-1.6.0.2-12.fc18.x86_64 requires libaudiofile.so.0()(64bit) [autotest-framework

Re: How to interpret F18 Blocker criterion

2012-11-11 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On 2012-11-10 9:36, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> >> 1) It's making something Fedora does not build, provide, or have any >> influence on part of our release process. Doubly so if you're going >> down the "test it using Windows or OS X as a hos

F-18 Branched report: 20121111 changes

2012-11-11 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Sun Nov 11 09:15:40 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [dhcp-forwarder] dhcp-forwarder-upstart-0.10-1801.fc18.noarch requires /sbin/initctl [dvipdfm] dvipdfm-0.13.2d-44.fc18.x86_64 requires libkpathsea.so.4(

Re: post install very slooow

2012-11-11 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 11:09 -0800, John Reiser wrote: > > 36 partitions? Really? I thought GPT's 128+ partitions is actually an > > inside joke, ergo "you know if we give users this particular hurt me > > button, some will actually try it." > > 45 partitions across 4 drives in one box, 40 partit

Re: OT Re: Floppies available

2012-11-11 Thread laurence orchard
On 11/11/2012 10:53, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:51:27 -0300 Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: I have a number of 5.25 and 3.5 inch floppies available. And I have a number of audio tapes aka cassettes, suitable for r

Re: post install very slooow

2012-11-11 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/11/2012 10:39 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Nov 10, 2012, at 8:09 PM, John Reiser wrote: 36 partitions? Really? I thought GPT's 128+ partitions is actually an inside joke, ergo "you know if we give users this particular hurt me button, some will actually try it." 45 partitions across 4 d

OT Re: Floppies available

2012-11-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:51:27 -0300 Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R > > wrote: > > > I have a number of 5.25 and 3.5 inch floppies available. > > > And I have a number of audio tapes aka cassettes, suitable for > recording Commodore 64 pr

Re: Floppies available

2012-11-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: > I have a number of 5.25 and 3.5 inch floppies available. And I have a number of audio tapes aka cassettes, suitable for recording Commodore 64 programs with a datasette. ;) I am sure someone else must have punch cards too

Re: post install very slooow

2012-11-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Nov 10, 2012, at 8:09 PM, John Reiser wrote: >> 36 partitions? Really? I thought GPT's 128+ partitions is actually an inside >> joke, ergo "you know if we give users this particular hurt me button, some >> will actually try it." > > 45 partitions across 4 drives in one box, 40 partitions a

Re: Rawhide /etc/grub2.cfg KEYTABLE SYSFONT

2012-11-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 02:27:48 -0800 (PST) Sergio wrote: > Have you fixed /etc/default/grub ? Got it: /etc/sysconfig/i18n cat SYSFONT... -- Regards, Frank -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: How to interpret F18 Blocker criterion

2012-11-11 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/11/2012 08:33 AM, drago01 wrote: No, I don't see any reason why VMs are any different from any other hardware plattform. So for VMs everything that applies to hardware applies. If you are using out of tree or closed source drivers you are on your own etc. pp. I dont think none of the solu

Re: post install very slooow

2012-11-11 Thread drago01
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 4:42 PM, John Reiser wrote: >>> I noticed the post install processing in f16 lasted only >>> a few seconds, not the seemingly interminable wait >>> a Fedora 18 install takes. > > If you have many partitions, then the grub2 operating system prober > takes a while to construc

Re: How to interpret F18 Blocker criterion

2012-11-11 Thread drago01
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 9:15 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 11/11/2012 04:31 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> >> We do, and that's a plausible outcome. But I think those pushing for a >> stronger approach than this are making a decent case. It's at least worth >> considering if our 'we do

Re: How to interpret F18 Blocker criterion

2012-11-11 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 11/11/2012 04:31 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: We do, and that's a plausible outcome. But I think those pushing for a stronger approach than this are making a decent case. It's at least worth considering if our 'we don't care about VBox' stance may be hurting more than we had thought, and con