On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 23:33 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 01:15 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> > On 10/11/2012 12:31 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > We agreed at the blocker review meeting this morning that "most
> > > commonly-used filesystem types" was really pretty vague an
On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 01:15 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> On 10/11/2012 12:31 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > We agreed at the blocker review meeting this morning that "most
> > commonly-used filesystem types" was really pretty vague and
> > unsatisfactory. The specific case we were considering was LV
On 10/11/2012 12:31 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> We agreed at the blocker review meeting this morning that "most
> commonly-used filesystem types" was really pretty vague and
> unsatisfactory. The specific case we were considering was LVM. In the
> end we agreed that, really, at Beta stage, anacond
Hey, folks. So it became clear over the course of the last few blocker
reviews that the new partitioning criteria need a bit of refinement.
Here is my proposal for altering them. The current Beta partitioning
criteria are provided for reference:
current
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* The installer must be able to com
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing:
Age URL
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15680/hostapd-1.0-3.fc18
1
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15709/gitolite3-3.04-4.fc18
1
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-1571
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 18:38 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 17:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >> This button is new in TC3. But appears to be superfluous in that it
> >> does nothing (yet?), but more importantly I don't
The following Fedora 16 Security updates need testing:
Age URL
1
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15748/hostapd-0.7.3-10.fc16
94
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-10402/bcfg2-1.2.3-1.fc16
19
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-1445
On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 17:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> This button is new in TC3. But appears to be superfluous in that it
>> does nothing (yet?), but more importantly I don't understand why it
>> would even be needed. Would anyone like to
> >
> > Please file a bug.
>
> Indeed - and looking at /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is kind of
> indirect. Surely the output of 'ip addr' or 'ifconfig' would be more
> useful as an indication of what anaconda is actually *using*.
Sorry, haven't been able to keep up with QA list for the last we
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 17:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> This button is new in TC3. But appears to be superfluous in that it
> does nothing (yet?), but more importantly I don't understand why it
> would even be needed. Would anyone like to address my confusion?
I'm not the designer, but I think I
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 14:50 -0500, John Morris wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 15:03 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
> > >
> > I have to say I agree with you. They create too much complexity (which will
> > be broken by definition) to create a tiny simplification. This is an
> > example of overkill.
>
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 14:48 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
> On today's blocker bug meeting, we agreed that we don't need to require both
> NFS and NFSISO to work for Beta, just one is enough. Anaconda team claims
> NFSISO support has a lot of issues that are hard to solve.
>
> Current Beta criterion
This button is new in TC3. But appears to be superfluous in that it does
nothing (yet?), but more importantly I don't understand why it would even be
needed. Would anyone like to address my confusion?
Chris Murphy
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On 10/10/2012 10:36 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 22:08 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 10/10/2012 09:45 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I think that way we could make the meetings more efficient without
running the risk of missing proposals.
The most time in the meeting
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 16:51 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Oct 10, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 22:08 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >> On 10/10/2012 09:45 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >>> I think that way we could make the meetings more efficient
On Oct 10, 2012, at 4:36 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 22:08 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>> On 10/10/2012 09:45 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> I think that way we could make the meetings more efficient without
>>> running the risk of missing proposals.
>>
>> The mo
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 14:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> We have a three sided triangle here:
Just in case any geometry buffs in the audience were wondering, yes I
did catch that when I read it back, and yes I did slap myself repeatedly
in the face. :)
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 14:25:37 -0700
Jesse Keating wrote:
snip
> > As we have both already stated and agreed on, the installer is
> > unique. Our development process is so very much tied to the Fedora
> > release schedule. There is no easy way for us to develop something
> > large like a new inst
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 22:08 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 10/10/2012 09:45 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > I think that way we could make the meetings more efficient without
> > running the risk of missing proposals.
>
> The most time in the meetings is to get people to ack/nack/patch.
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:35:11 -0600
Chris Murphy wrote:
> Two suggestions for possible changes in blocker bug procedures:
>
> 1. I think more burden should be placed on he who proposes a bug as a
> blocker. a.) what release criterion applies
> b.) what workarounds are there
> c.) what are the con
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:43:36 -0400
David Cantrell wrote:
snip
> > > I didn't read this paragraph. This is a lot of text, but I've
> > > skimmed it. What I think we should consider is whether Fedora
> > > should have a separate entity or group that accepts blockers.
> > > Right now, that respons
On 10/10/2012 09:45 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I think that way we could make the meetings more efficient without
running the risk of missing proposals.
The most time in the meetings is to get people to ack/nack/patch...
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On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 15:35 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Two suggestions for possible changes in blocker bug procedures:
>
> 1. I think more burden should be placed on he who proposes a bug as a blocker.
> a.) what release criterion applies
> b.) what workarounds are there
> c.) what are the contr
Two suggestions for possible changes in blocker bug procedures:
1. I think more burden should be placed on he who proposes a bug as a blocker.
a.) what release criterion applies
b.) what workarounds are there
c.) what are the contra-arguments to blocking
2. The above information would be useful i
> I am booting from a DVD via a usb device. The computer only has a cd drive
> and the Live-Desktop image is > 700 MB so I have to use a DVD to boot the
> Desktop DVD.
One of my boxes has CD only, and USB1.1 only. I plug in an external DVD
with USB2.0 interface into a PCMCIA (cardbus) card whi
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 14:09 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> I'm not that happy with having a giant list of direct CCs on
> announcement mails because it's just inelegant and bitrots quickly (you
> wind up with announcements going to the person who used to be the FPL
> three years ago). It's what a
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 16:43 -0400, David Cantrell wrote:
> > I don't think my disagreement is necessarily a problem for you,
> > though...let me see if I can put it a different way:
> >
> > Take the example you just gave. My position isn't 'we should take that
> > bug as a blocker both four weeks
Any chance of builds of patched versions of bind for >=F16 to fix the
CVE quoted in https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-00801 ?
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:03:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kamil Paral
To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases
Subject: Re: F18 TC3 No Logout Option?: Wonko the Sane
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On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 12:17 -0400, David Cantrell wrote:
> You're not understanding what I was pointing out. The blocker criteria
> between alpha and beta should be more open than the blocker criteria between
> beta and rc. The idea is that we start accepting fewer bugs as blockers as
> we get c
Hi,
I'm glad to announce Power management testday,
date: 2012-10-11 (Thursday), link: [1]
During this event suspend/hibernate/resume, backlight control
as well as tuned daemon will be tested. You can also measure
& compare power consumption with others. As a new F18 kernel
feature suspend to bo
# F18 Beta Blocker Review meeting #3.1
# Date: 2012-10-11
# Time: 16:00 UTC [1] (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT)
# Location: #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net
Since we didn't get through all of the bugs during the last meeting, we
will have a continuation on 2012-10-11.
We'll be running through the beta block
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 15:03 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
> >
> I have to say I agree with you. They create too much complexity (which will
> be broken by definition) to create a tiny simplification. This is an example
> of overkill.
No. This BS has gone on long enough. Fedora is pretty much the
> -Original Message-
> From: kpa...@redhat.com
> Sent: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:06:11 -0400 (EDT)
> To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: dracut-initqueue[197]: Warning: Could not boot, ...
> /dev/root does not exist
>
>> For the Live-Desktop, I get
>>
>> dracut-initqueue[196]: Wa
#fedora-qa: f18beta-blocker-review-3
Note that we did not get through all of the bugs today and we will be
having another review meeting tomorrow.
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-10-10/f18beta-blo
On Oct 10, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>
>
> I get dracut errors:
>
> dracut-initqueue[196]: Warning: could not boot
> dracut-initqueue[196]: Warning: /dev/root does not exist
>
> Entering emergency mode. Exit the shell to continue
> Type "journalctl" to view sytem logs.
>
On Oct 10, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: li...@colorremedies.com
>> Sent: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:50:07 -0600
>> To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
>> Subject: Re: removing the non booting kernels how do I troubleshoot them?
>>
>> I don't under
> For the Live-Desktop, I get
>
> dracut-initqueue[196]: Warning: could not boot
> dracut-initqueue[196]: Warning:
> /dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-18-BetaTC3-x86_64-Live-D does not exist
> dracut-initqueue[196]: Warning: /dev/mapper/live-rw does not exist
>
> Entering emergency mode. Exit the
> On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 06:45 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
> > >
> > > When I click on the User Name in the right corner the options
> > > are
> > > Notifications, System Settings, Lock, and Power Off. Am I
> > > missing
> > > something?
> >
> > This is a new feature from the GNOME team (i.e.
With F18 Alpha I was able to startup and use the new anaconda UI.
But since the Beta TC1-TC3 cycle I always end up in a compleet freeze of
my system.
I boot up on a fysical system. I see the kernel boot then I see the
first text-screen telling me anaconda is starting. When the screen
switche
On 10/10/2012 06:48 PM, Kamil Paral wrote:
On today's blocker bug meeting, we agreed that we don't need to require both
NFS and NFSISO to work for Beta, just one is enough. Anaconda team claims
NFSISO support has a lot of issues that are hard to solve.
Current Beta criterion reads:
" The inst
On today's blocker bug meeting, we agreed that we don't need to require both
NFS and NFSISO to work for Beta, just one is enough. Anaconda team claims
NFSISO support has a lot of issues that are hard to solve.
Current Beta criterion reads:
" The installer must be able to use the HTTP, FTP and N
> dracut-initqueue[196]: Warning: could not boot
> dracut-initqueue[196]: Warning:
> /dev/disk/by-label/Fedora-18-BetaTC3-x86_64-Live-D does not exist
> dracut-initqueue[196]: Warning: /dev/mapper/live-rw does not exist
>
> Entering emergency mode. Exit the shell to continue
> Type "journa
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:17:41 -0400,
David Cantrell wrote:
You're not understanding what I was pointing out. The blocker criteria
between alpha and beta should be more open than the blocker criteria between
beta and rc. The idea is that we start accepting fewer bugs as blockers as
we get
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 06:45 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
> >
> > When I click on the User Name in the right corner the options are
> > Notifications, System Settings, Lock, and Power Off. Am I missing
> > something?
>
> This is a new feature from the GNOME team (i.e. it's intended). They belie
#310: Proposed Test Day - realmd/sssd/AD
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Reporter: stefw | Owner:
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 18
Component: Test Day |Version:
Resolution:| Keywords:
Blocked B
The following Fedora 18 Security updates need testing:
Age URL
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15680/hostapd-1.0-3.fc18
1
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-15709/gitolite3-3.04-4.fc18
1
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-1571
>> Subject: Re: removing the non booting kernels how do I troubleshoot
>> them?
>>
>> I don't understand the question, or the problem. Removing kernels
>> doesn't
>> seem like it will help you troubleshoot them.
>>
>>
>> Chris Murphy
>> --
>
> The problem is that non of those kernels work! Th
> -Original Message-
> From: kpa...@redhat.com
> Sent: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:23:30 -0400 (EDT)
> To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: dracut-initqueue[197]: Warning: Could not boot, ...
> /dev/root does not exist
>
>> I downloaded a Nightly build to test/install on
>> another ma
> -Original Message-
> From: li...@colorremedies.com
> Sent: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:50:07 -0600
> To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: removing the non booting kernels how do I troubleshoot them?
>
> I don't understand the question, or the problem. Removing kernels doesn't
> seem
I don't understand the question, or the problem. Removing kernels doesn't seem
like it will help you troubleshoot them.
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> Hi F18 testers,
>
> I have some strange effect: After having rebooted, I start on some
> tty a
> top or iotop command and let it run. Additionally, on the GDM window,
> I
> login into a gnome3 session. And, strange to say, each time during
> top
> or iotop is running, the gnome3 session is start
> -Original Message-
> From: kpa...@redhat.com
> Sent: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:23:30 -0400 (EDT)
> To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: dracut-initqueue[197]: Warning: Could not boot, ...
> /dev/root does not exist
>
>> I downloaded a Nightly build to test/install on
>> another ma
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On 10/10/2012 10:06 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 10/10/2012 03:59 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>> On 10/10/2012 09:41 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2012 02:38 PM, drago01 wrote:
> Hi drago01,
Hi,
> thank you for your an
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:35:24AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > This is a new feature from the GNOME team (i.e. it's intended). They
> > believe there are no use cases for logging out, if you have just a single
> > user.
> What if you want to switch desktop environments?
Never mind. I see that
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 06:45:55AM -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
> This is a new feature from the GNOME team (i.e. it's intended). They
> believe there are no use cases for logging out, if you have just a single
> user.
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Hi F18 testers,
I have some strange effect: After having rebooted, I start on some tty a
top or iotop command and let it run. Additionally, on the GDM window, I
login into a gnome3 session. And, strange to say, each time during top
or iotop is running, the gnome3 session is started in the fallback
> I downloaded a Nightly build to test/install on
> another machine and I get this same error on top. The livecd does
> not boot.
You have not provided any link, so I don't know which nightly build you are
using. Can you try with F18 Beta TC3?
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/18-Beta-T
> Anyway Is it also a known issue that after one logs out (which I
> can do now since I've installed KDE and added a second user) the
> "power off" seems to think a user is still logged in and one has to
> authenticate to proceed with the power off?
I believe it has the same root cause as
ht
Dear folks,
I am removing the non booting kernels to get suggestions as to how to
troubleshoot them:
[olivares@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa kernel*
kernel-devel-3.6.0-2.fc18.i686
kernel-modules-extra-3.6.1-1.fc18.i686
kernel-modules-extra-3.6.0-3.fc18.i686
kernel-3.6.1-1.fc18.i686
kernel-3.6.0-2.fc18.
Dear folks,
When starting up with newer kernels, I cannot boot machine.
I get
dracut-initqueue[197]: Warning: Could not boot
dracut-initqueue[197]: Warning: /dev/root does not exist
Entering emergency mode exit the shell to continue. Type "journalctl" to view
system logs.
[olivares@local
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On 10/10/2012 03:59 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> On 10/10/2012 09:41 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
>> On 10/10/2012 02:38 PM, drago01 wrote:
Hi drago01,
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
thank you for your answer.
1. file ~/.cache/gdm/session.log does
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On 10/10/2012 09:41 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 10/10/2012 02:38 PM, drago01 wrote:
>>> Hi drago01,
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> thank you for your answer.
>>>
>>> 1. file ~/.cache/gdm/session.log does not exist
>>
>> If that does not exit than ~/.xsession-
>> This is a new feature from the GNOME team (i.e. it's intended). They believe
>> there are no use cases for logging out, if you have just a single user.
>
> It is a little more nuanced than that.
>
> We don't offer to log out if there is just a single user, and a single
> session (ie desktop en
>> This is a new feature from the GNOME team (i.e. it's intended). They believe
>> there are no use cases for logging out, if you have just a single user.
>
> It is a little more nuanced than that.
>
> We don't offer to log out if there is just a single user, and a single
> session (ie desktop
On 10/10/2012 02:38 PM, drago01 wrote:
>> Hi drago01,
>
> Hi,
>
>> thank you for your answer.
>>
>> 1. file ~/.cache/gdm/session.log does not exist
>
> If that does not exit than ~/.xsession-errors might instead.
Hi Drago01,
See here!
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On 10/09/2012 03:17 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-10-09 at 14:51 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>> On 10/09/2012 12:46 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> On Sat, 2012-10-06 at 06:45 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
On 10/04/2012 10:12 PM, Adam W
Compose started at Wed Oct 10 09:15:26 UTC 2012
Broken deps for x86_64
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almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-3.0.so.3()(64bit)
almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.16()(64bit)
On 10/10/2012 08:29 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 06:45 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
>>> Just installed TC3 in a VBox VM from the DVD and came across the what
>>> a probably known issues. Poor partition options, time zone not
>>> being set properly.
>>>
>>> The one that seems
> Hi drago01,
Hi,
> thank you for your answer.
>
> 1. file ~/.cache/gdm/session.log does not exist
If that does not exit than ~/.xsession-errors might instead.
> 2. The usage of bootchart gives me no answer because
>
>a. the usage of other desktops like xfce shows no such delay,
>b. aft
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 06:45 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote:
> > Just installed TC3 in a VBox VM from the DVD and came across the what
> > a probably known issues. Poor partition options, time zone not
> > being set properly.
> >
> > The one that seems to be a new is the inability to logout from GNO
#81: Add i18n release criteria
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Priority: major| Milestone: Fedora 14
Component: Wiki |Version:
Resolution: | Ke
> Just installed TC3 in a VBox VM from the DVD and came across the what
> a probably known issues. Poor partition options, time zone not
> being set properly.
>
> The one that seems to be a new is the inability to logout from GNOME.
> I can't go back and check TC2 since I wiped it out...but
Just installed TC3 in a VBox VM from the DVD and came across the what a
probably known issues. Poor partition options, time zone not being set
properly.
The one that seems to be a new is the inability to logout from GNOME. I can't
go back and check TC2 since I wiped it out...but I think I
On 10/10/2012 09:46 AM, drago01 wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Joachim Backes
> wrote:
>> Dear F18 testers,
>>
>> on oct 7 I reported about login delays in F18, until the gnome3 desktop
>> appears, at the very first gnome3 login afer reboot:
>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/
Hi,
I'm glad to announce that Power management testday is coming.
date: 11. Oct (Thu) 2012
link: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-10-11_Power_Management
As new feature will be tested kernel support for hybrid suspend.
You can test you laptop power consumption or power-save functions.
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Joachim Backes
wrote:
> Dear F18 testers,
>
> on oct 7 I reported about login delays in F18, until the gnome3 desktop
> appears, at the very first gnome3 login afer reboot:
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-October/110696.html).
>
> In the meant
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