Re: firewalld this doesn't seem right....

2012-10-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/02/2012 07:54 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > There isn't one scheduled at present: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_18_test_days > > But it might not be a bad idea. It is probably a good idea. Another issue If you run the firewall-config GUI there are no rules listed anywhere

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 19:18 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Oct 1, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: > > > Have I just been told to see Figure.1 ? > > I guess. More to the point you've been told that the thing you say > Fedora should have to keep you from using another distro,

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2012-09-30 at 21:49 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hey, folks. So I'm sorry this is a bit late, but I've been working on > the proposed partitioning criteria for F18, and here's what I've got: So an update here: there's various additional proposals in the thread, but no objections to the

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 1, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: > Have I just been told to see Figure.1 ? I guess. More to the point you've been told that the thing you say Fedora should have to keep you from using another distro, you haven't had with oldui, so it's actually a feature request.

2012-10-01 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap

2012-10-01 Thread Adam Williamson
As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20121001 Next meeting is scheduled for 2012-10-08 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
On 10/01/2012 03:51 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: On 10/01/2012 11:53 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: I think it's a good design goal to get to, eventually, but I don't think it should be a release requirement for F18. Disk partitioning rese

Re: firewalld this doesn't seem right....

2012-10-01 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
On 10/01/2012 04:54 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 17:46 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Checking the box and providing the root password results in a error message (iptables: Invalid argument) in the terminal where the applet was star

Re: firewalld this doesn't seem right....

2012-10-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 17:46 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > Checking the box and providing the root password results in a error message > > (iptables: Invalid argument) in the terminal where the applet was started > > as well as an selinux AVC d

Re: firewalld this doesn't seem right....

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 1, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Checking the box and providing the root password results in a error message > (iptables: Invalid argument) in the terminal where the applet was started as > well as an selinux AVC denial. AdamW is there a firewalld test day? I remember there wa

Re: firewalld this doesn't seem right....

2012-10-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/01/2012 10:04 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 30 September 2012 23:09, Ed Greshko wrote: >> I just started playing around with firewalld and I found something that >> doesn't seem right to me. >> >> If any user starts firewall-applet and then selects "Block all network >> traffic" it

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: > On 10/01/2012 11:53 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> I think it's a good design goal to get to, eventually, but I don't think it >> should be a release requirement for F18. > Disk partitioning resembles open heart surgery. The patient

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
On 10/01/2012 11:53 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: I think it's a good design goal to get to, eventually, but I don't think it should be a release requirement for F18. Disk partitioning resembles open heart surgery. The patient suffers when not done well. Some software problems do not appear until

Re: how to enable ssh?

2012-10-01 Thread cornel panceac
2012/10/1 cornel panceac > > > 2012/9/30 Chris Murphy > >> >> On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:00 AM, cornel panceac wrote: >> >> >>> Chris, checking according to your question if everything firewall\* is >> installed, i've found that firewalld-applet was not installed. I've >> installed it. Thank you. Unf

Re: Adding Group KDE Desktop missing package?

2012-10-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
Rex Dieter (rdie...@math.unl.edu) said: > Ed Greshko wrote: > > > Installed the latest F18 Alpha with GNOME as the default desktop. > > Updated, and then did a group install of KDE Desktop. kmix wasn't > > included. > > > > Oversight? Intentional? > > Definitely not intentional, there are so

Re: Add FreeBSD to Grub Menu

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 1, 2012, at 6:12 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Somehow the menu entry is not added and the newer kernels are not added > either :( That tells me you have not run grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg Or you have a syntax error in the /etc/grub.d script you've added your FreeBSD entry

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 1, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 08:48 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> On 10/01/2012 04:49 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> There's probably stuff I haven't thought of here, I'm sure people can >>> think of improvements. I'll throw an item on the a

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:04 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > On 10/01/2012 06:38 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> I'm very hesitant to expand release requirements related to anaconda for F18. > > Should it not be sufficient for us to have our release criteria be on par > what other os installers ( Like

Re: test cases ordering

2012-10-01 Thread Kamil Paral
> > If we ever get lots and lots of optional test cases it may be worth > > making sure they're all at the bottom of the tables or separating > > them > > out some other way, but for now there's only a few. > > When talking about it, I wondered several times if there is any > particular order in t

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 10/01/2012 03:09 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 08:48 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 10/01/2012 04:49 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: There's probably stuff I haven't thought of here, I'm sure people can think of improvements. I'll throw an item on the agenda for Monda

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 08:48 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 10/01/2012 04:49 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > There's probably stuff I haven't thought of here, I'm sure people can > > think of improvements. I'll throw an item on the agenda for Monday for > > this, but please do post any im

Re: Release criterion proposal: upgrade methods

2012-10-01 Thread Tim Flink
On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:41:48 -0600 Tim Flink wrote: > On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:32:01 -0600 > Tim Flink wrote: > > > As currently written, the upgrade criterion in the Fedora 18 beta > > release requirements [1] reads: > > > > The installer must be able to successfully complete an upgrade > > ins

Re: ctrl-alt-bksp

2012-10-01 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 10/01/2012 01:22 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 16:05 +, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 09/27/2012 07:18 PM, Sergio wrote: Maybe the traditional way of creating /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/zap.conf with Section “ServerFlags” Option “DontZap” “false” EndSection ? No, this was disa

Re: firewalld this doesn't seem right....

2012-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 30 September 2012 23:09, Ed Greshko wrote: > I just started playing around with firewalld and I found something that > doesn't seem right to me. > > If any user starts firewall-applet and then selects "Block all network > traffic" it will do as asked without any prompt for root's password or

Re: ctrl-alt-bksp

2012-10-01 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 16:05 +, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On 09/27/2012 07:18 PM, Sergio wrote: > > Maybe the traditional way of creating /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/zap.conf with > > > > Section “ServerFlags” > > Option “DontZap” “false” > > EndSection > > > > ? > > > > No, this was disabled awhile ag

Re: [Test-Announce] 2012-10-01 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2012-10-01 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
> This is a reminder of the upcoming QA meeting. Please add any topic > suggestions to the meeting wiki page: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20121001 > > The current proposed agenda is included below. > > == Proposed Agenda Topics == > 1. Previous meeting f

rawhide report: 20121001 changes

2012-10-01 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Oct 1 08:15:11 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [almanah] almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-3.0.so.3()(64bit) almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.16()(64bit)

F-18 Branched report: 20121001 changes

2012-10-01 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Mon Oct 1 09:15:21 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [almanah] almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-3.0.so.3()(64bit) almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.16()(64bit)

Re: Add FreeBSD to Grub Menu

2012-10-01 Thread Antonio Olivares
> -Original Message- > From: li...@colorremedies.com > Sent: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 18:42:49 -0600 > To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org > Subject: Re: Add FreeBSD to Grub Menu > > > On Sep 30, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: exec tail -n +3 $0 # This file provides an e

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 10/01/2012 09:35 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: I would suggest partitioning as easy and straightforward as in recent OpenSuse and Ubuntu as a reasonable goal. End user UI experience is not something we want our criteria to be based upon on since it's subjective to the eye of t

Re: Shutdown does not work (Gnome version of Alpha)

2012-10-01 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/28/2012 07:40 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 14:39 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> Dear folks, >> >> Aside from newer kernels not appearing on Grub Menu, shutdown is not >> working. It just logs off and presents the gdm lo

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
On 10/01/2012 02:04 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 10/01/2012 06:38 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: I'm very hesitant to expand release requirements related to anaconda for F18. Should it not be sufficient for us to have our release criteria be on par what other os installers ( Like Windows o

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 10/01/2012 06:38 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: I'm very hesitant to expand release requirements related to anaconda for F18. Should it not be sufficient for us to have our release criteria be on par what other os installers ( Like Windows or OS-X ) are capable of doing? JBG -- test mailing list

Re: Release criteria proposal: partitioning (alpha and beta)

2012-10-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 10/01/2012 04:49 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: There's probably stuff I haven't thought of here, I'm sure people can think of improvements. I'll throw an item on the agenda for Monday for this, but please do post any improvements you can think of. thanks! I would like us add a criteria about th

Re: how to enable ssh?

2012-10-01 Thread cornel panceac
2012/9/30 Chris Murphy > > On Sep 30, 2012, at 1:00 AM, cornel panceac wrote: > > >> Chris, checking according to your question if everything firewall\* is > installed, i've found that firewalld-applet was not installed. I've > installed it. Thank you. Unfortunately, this didn't help with ssh pro