Re: DKMS and virtualbox kernel modules in F17

2012-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/23/2012 01:26 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > As it is only a minor irritant, I've put my low priority stack. Maybe it was low on my priority...but it bugged me so I worked on it and "resolved" the issue at least when it comes to the Guest Addons. The "problem" was that even if you had dkms insta

Re: DKMS and virtualbox kernel modules in F17

2012-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/23/2012 01:11 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > unfortunately, this hint about renaming /usr/bin/dkms.old does not solve > my problem. I think I have to wait for a better (real) solution. FWIW, also if F17 is run as a VM and the kernel is updated one needs to run "/etc/init.d/vboxadd setup" to rec

Re: DKMS and virtualbox kernel modules in F17

2012-04-22 Thread Joachim Backes
On 04/22/2012 11:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 11:23 -0400, David wrote: >> On 4/22/2012 10:31 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I'm running virtualbox from virtualbox.org. Did somebody try to use the >>> dkms for rebuilding the virtualbox kernel modules? I hav

Re: F17 beta doesnt automount my SD reader or pen drives

2012-04-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 18:34, Adam Williamson wrote: > That is not 'the usual procedure'. The usual procedure is 'setenforce > Permissive', boot with 'enforcing=0' or 'selinux=0' (but the last is a > last resort to be used only if permissive mode isn't enough). Thanks. Well, it was "the usual pr

Re: Grubs really aren't very attractive...

2012-04-22 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sun, 4/22/12, Tom Horsley wrote: > From: Tom Horsley > Subject: Re: Grubs really aren't very attractive... > To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org > Date: Sunday, April 22, 2012, 2:41 PM > On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 22:32:48 +0100 > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > Are you sure you're not just talking

Re: Grubs really aren't very attractive...

2012-04-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 22:32:48 +0100 Adam Williamson wrote: > Are you sure you're not just talking about > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835 ? Sure. I'm just reading the writing on the wall :-). They spew messages about it being fragile, they require a --force option, there are old

Re: F17 beta doesnt automount my SD reader or pen drives

2012-04-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 17:27 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > What would be the right procedure to test why F17 doesnt' mount my sd > card reader? > > F16 on the same machine worked just fine. > Although on previous Fedora versions (F10 or thereabouts) I used to > have to disable SELinux to get the

Re: Grubs really aren't very attractive...

2012-04-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 12:10 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > (Or was till GRUB2 decided > it was too good to be chainloaded in the ordinary way > and must use the new and improved multiboot instead). Are you sure you're not just talking about https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804835 ? -- Ad

Re: DKMS and virtualbox kernel modules in F17

2012-04-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 11:23 -0400, David wrote: > On 4/22/2012 10:31 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > I'm running virtualbox from virtualbox.org. Did somebody try to use the > > dkms for rebuilding the virtualbox kernel modules? I have problems to > > perform this: each time I insta

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-22 Thread Samuel Sieb
Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: It looks like there isn't a gui for it any more, but see this URL for how to change it: http://ccollins.wordpress.com/2009/01/06/how-to-change-date-formats-on-ubuntu/ You want to change the 1 in the following section to a 2. LC_MEASUREMENT measurement 1 END LC_MEASUREM

F17 beta doesnt automount my SD reader or pen drives

2012-04-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
What would be the right procedure to test why F17 doesnt' mount my sd card reader? F16 on the same machine worked just fine. Although on previous Fedora versions (F10 or thereabouts) I used to have to disable SELinux to get the card mounted as I always got a SELInux exception when plugging my SD c

F-17 Branched report: 20120422 changes

2012-04-22 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Sun Apr 22 15:53:03 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [aeolus-conductor] aeolus-conductor-0.4.0-2.fc17.noarch requires ruby(abi) = 0:1.8 [aeolus-configserver] aeolus-configserver-0.4.5-1.fc17.noarch require

Re: Where to file a RFE for "Add Remove programs" ?

2012-04-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 15:00, Matej Cepl wrote: > But please check first that it is not a duplicate of already filed bug. Thanks Matej FC -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Where to file a RFE for "Add Remove programs" ?

2012-04-22 Thread Matej Cepl
On 22.4.2012 19:52, Fernando Cassia wrote: Where can I file such a Request for Enhancement? Is "Add/Remove programs" exclusively a Fedora thing, or upstream Gnome?. TIA https://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=gnome-packagekit But please check first that it is not a duplicate of already f

Where to file a RFE for "Add Remove programs" ?

2012-04-22 Thread Fernando Cassia
I was using the "Add Remove programs" in F17 and scrolling down to find the name of a bash util I did install yesterday but whose name didn't remember (and it being a bash shell, obviously it didn' t show up in the Gnome "Applications" screen). So had to type "mount" on the Add/Remove Apps searc

Re: Fedora-17 Irritations

2012-04-22 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 22/04/12 02:09, Samuel Sieb wrote: Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Exactly the problem! I'm not French and I want English measurements to be the default for United Kingdom locale settings. It looks like there isn't a gui for it any more, but see this URL for how to change it: http://ccollins.wo

Re: Whatever happened to the speedy Fedora boot?

2012-04-22 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 08:37 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: > It takes almost two minutes from the time Grub starts > loading Fedora 17 until the graphical login appears. > One minute fifty seconds according to my stopwatch. Running KDE, on F17 fully updated, starting the time when grub

Re: Grubs really aren't very attractive...

2012-04-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Antonio Olivares wrote: > Tom has worked it out, but I wonder if he has saved the changes in the > /etc/grub2/default file so that updates won't mess any of his changes? That's the other beauty of a stand alone grub partition. I don't do any updates to it

Re: Grubs really aren't very attractive...

2012-04-22 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sun, 4/22/12, Tom Horsley wrote: > From: Tom Horsley > Subject: Re: Grubs really aren't very attractive... > To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org > Date: Sunday, April 22, 2012, 9:10 AM > On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:53:25 -0600 > (MDT) > Bodhi Zazen wrote: > > > The default is to install grub2

Re: Grubs really aren't very attractive...

2012-04-22 Thread Antonio Olivares
> The default is to install grub2 to > the MBR. It will detect you OS and allow you to select which > OS to boot. the grub2 os-prober is much better and, with the > complexity of configuring grub2, most people go with the > defaults. > os-prober much better? I disagree! with old grub, FreeBSD was

Re: $PYTHONPATH

2012-04-22 Thread Matej Cepl
On 22.4.2012 06:44, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: The PYTHONPATH environment variable is what you probably want for instance in .bashrc: export PYTHONPATH=/home/badger/my/python/directory Or just in belts-and-suspenders style export PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:$HOME/my/python/directory Matěj -- test ma

Re: Whatever happened to the speedy Fedora boot?

2012-04-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:51:45 +0200 drago01 wrote: > "yum install systemd-analyze" and then "systemd-analye blame" should > tell you whom to blame. It should, but it doesn't always. I'm not sure what counts as "blame" in its eyes. A simpler technique is sometimes to just turn off the kernel rhgb p

Re: Grubs really aren't very attractive...

2012-04-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:53:25 -0600 (MDT) Bodhi Zazen wrote: > The default is to install grub2 to the MBR. It will detect you OS and allow > you to select which OS to boot. the grub2 os-prober is much better and, with > the complexity of configuring grub2, most people go with the defaults. The o

Re: Grubs really aren't very attractive...

2012-04-22 Thread Bodhi Zazen
The default is to install grub2 to the MBR. It will detect you OS and allow you to select which OS to boot. the grub2 os-prober is much better and, with the complexity of configuring grub2, most people go with the defaults. It is possible to do as you wish with grub2, it is highly customizable,

Re: Whatever happened to the speedy Fedora boot?

2012-04-22 Thread drago01
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: > It takes almost two minutes from the time Grub starts > loading Fedora 17 until the graphical login appears. > One minute fifty seconds according to my stopwatch. "yum install systemd-analyze" and then "systemd-analye blame" s

Whatever happened to the speedy Fedora boot?

2012-04-22 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
It takes almost two minutes from the time Grub starts loading Fedora 17 until the graphical login appears. One minute fifty seconds according to my stopwatch. -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.com www.omen.com Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Techn

Recurring error messages about write protect

2012-04-22 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
Fedora 17 is continually complaining about write protect on a non existent hard drive. It then complains about a write cache on sdc and announces it is write thru. These messages come about every minute on a console TTY, making a mess of curses apps. There are also recurring messages about reset

Re: DKMS and virtualbox kernel modules in F17

2012-04-22 Thread David
On 4/22/2012 10:31 AM, Joachim Backes wrote: > Dear all, > > I'm running virtualbox from virtualbox.org. Did somebody try to use the > dkms for rebuilding the virtualbox kernel modules? I have problems to > perform this: each time I install a new kernel, dkms does not update the > vbox kernel modu

Re: DKMS and virtualbox kernel modules in F17

2012-04-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/22/2012 10:31 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > I'm running virtualbox from virtualbox.org. Did somebody try to use the > dkms for rebuilding the virtualbox kernel modules? I have problems to > perform this: each time I install a new kernel, dkms does not update the > vbox kernel modules. I have to

Re: Grubs really aren't very attractive...

2012-04-22 Thread John Reiser
> What is it you do not like about the defaults such that you are chainloading ? I have a couple dozen different OS root partitions: back to Fedora 6 (some cases with both 32-bit and 64-bit variants), back to Ubuntu 7.10, SuSE, Debian testing, plus that Other OS. I like to identify the OS by hos

Re: Grubs really aren't very attractive...

2012-04-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:13:37 -0600 (MDT) Bodhi Zazen wrote: > What is it you do not like about the defaults such that you are chainloading ? What default? There is no default for installing multiple OS instances on the same computer. There is most especially no default for keeping them all comple

DKMS and virtualbox kernel modules in F17

2012-04-22 Thread Joachim Backes
Dear all, I'm running virtualbox from virtualbox.org. Did somebody try to use the dkms for rebuilding the virtualbox kernel modules? I have problems to perform this: each time I install a new kernel, dkms does not update the vbox kernel modules. I have to run manually "/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup".

Re: Grubs really aren't very attractive...

2012-04-22 Thread Bodhi Zazen
Grub2 is a bit of a change. The advantage, IMO, is that grub 2 works much better out of the box and the need for manual configuration is much less. The disadvantage is that it is more complex to manually configure, as you found out, and the syntax has changed. The best single source of informa

SOLVED Re: Saving Logs was

2012-04-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/04/12 10:06, Frank Murphy wrote: On 20/04/12 15:25, John Reiser wrote: What can I do with it in Rawhide. Have been dumped there during bootup. The shell itself has reasonable features, but the executables in $PATH are few, in order to make initramfs small. Find the executables by: "echo

Saving Logs was Re: Dracut Shell?

2012-04-22 Thread Frank Murphy
On 20/04/12 15:25, John Reiser wrote: What can I do with it in Rawhide. Have been dumped there during bootup. The shell itself has reasonable features, but the executables in $PATH are few, in order to make initramfs small. Find the executables by: "echo $PATH; echo /*bin/*" etc. Have mana