Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-06 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/04/06 19:05 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: Felix Miata wrote: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_PreUpgrade Vey interesting. It seems that yum doesn't know about it either. So far as yum is concerned, it's just installing another boring package. I just hope that t

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/04/06 15:24 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: How about "cloning" your F15, and upgrading that to F16 with latest fixes with Yum? I suppose I could clone my F15 by copying its partition, but I th

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-06 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/04/06 15:24 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: Like running an app in an xterm, otherwise invisible messages may provide a necessary clue to solving a problem. That means that from the command line, grub will emit messages that I would no

Fedora 15 updates-testing report

2012-04-06 Thread updates
The following Fedora 15 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5256/wireshark-1.4.12-1.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-5094/drupal7-ctools-1.0-1.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-4988/trytond

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/04/06 12:35 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: Felix Miata wrote: Maybe it's time to dispense with the script (menu.lst/grub.conf) CLUE ^^ CLUE :-) I don't understand how that

2012-04-06 @ 17:00 UTC - F17 Beta Blocker Bug Review #5 minutes

2012-04-06 Thread Tim Flink
= #fedora-bugzappers: F17-beta-blocker-review-5 = Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-04-06/f17-beta-blocker-review-5.2012-04-06-17.01.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedorapr

Re: is the name ok

2012-04-06 Thread Jon Stanley
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:24 PM, george2 wrote: > There is no release criterion in the Testing/QA group for the release name. > Before millions see the latest great work from a multitude of contributors, > should this group pause to reflect if the release name is appropriate for > world wide releas

Re: is the name ok (my reply a bit long)

2012-04-06 Thread Robyn Bergeron
On 04/06/2012 12:02 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: Frank Murphy gmail.com> writes: The only way to do that is not to have a name. I'd favor this. Almost no one uses the name, and when they do it only causes confusion when people have to look it up. Maybe each version could have an official artwor

Re: is the name ok

2012-04-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/04/12 20:18, Scott Doty wrote: George, just be happy they didn't go with the first choice: "Vivid animated penis." Happy Good Friday. :) Whats good about it? The pubs are closed. ;) -- Regards, Frank "Jack of all, fubars" -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

Re: is the name ok

2012-04-06 Thread Scott Doty
On 04/06/2012 11:27 AM, John Dulaney wrote: This has nothing to do with QA. Seconded. George, just be happy they didn't go with the first choice: "Vivid animated penis." Happy Good Friday. :) -Scott p.s. extra points if you recognize the Usenet reference... -- test mailing list test@li

F17 & btrfs installation

2012-04-06 Thread gaelic
Hello. I know that anaconda is having a bug in terms of installing to btrfs Partitions and btrfs is generally disabled for now. Anybody knows if a installation of F17 to btrfs is possible if it already exists? Greetings, C -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https:

Re: any lxde or xfce spin nightly build available?

2012-04-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 11:59:51 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: Dear folks, I am looking for an xfce or lxde spin with a machine with 512 MB of ram, hoping this is ok at least for a livecd to install xfce or lxde to a machine. I check in nightly-composes output section, but there is no iso

is the name ok (my reply a bit long)

2012-04-06 Thread Andre Robatino
Frank Murphy gmail.com> writes: > The only way to do that is not to have a name. I'd favor this. Almost no one uses the name, and when they do it only causes confusion when people have to look it up. Maybe each version could have an official artwork theme instead (which is currently associated w

Re: is the name ok (my reply a bit long)

2012-04-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/04/12 19:56, Rick Stevens wrote: Putting in my two cents (pence, 5% of a euro, whatever), 2% of a euro, sorry! Bad day on the keyboard. :-p Don't make much difference, 5% is now 2%, due to national debt crisis. Unless it's a personable tax, then the reverse applies. -- Regards, Frank

any lxde or xfce spin nightly build available?

2012-04-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
Dear folks, I am looking for an xfce or lxde spin with a machine with 512 MB of ram, hoping this is ok at least for a livecd to install xfce or lxde to a machine. I check in nightly-composes output section, but there is no iso to download :( Anyone have a link to an iso, an rc3 or rc4? Regard

Re: is the name ok (my reply a bit long)

2012-04-06 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/06/2012 11:54 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 04/06/2012 11:36 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 06/04/12 18:24, george2 wrote: of the release name will not offend women, parents, and many who are spiritual or profess a religion? No mater how liberal a guy I might be, this expresses a concern for ho

Re: is the name ok (my reply a bit long)

2012-04-06 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/06/2012 11:36 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 06/04/12 18:24, george2 wrote: of the release name will not offend women, parents, and many who are spiritual or profess a religion? No mater how liberal a guy I might be, this expresses a concern for how open source might be perceived by the gener

Re: is the name ok (my reply a bit long)

2012-04-06 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/04/12 18:24, george2 wrote: of the release name will not offend women, parents, and many who are spiritual or profess a religion? No mater how liberal a guy I might be, this expresses a concern for how open source might be perceived by the general public. Even if these pictures and words

RE: is the name ok

2012-04-06 Thread John Dulaney
This has nothing to do with QA. John. From: geor...@spanmail.net To: fedora-test-l...@redhat.com Subject: is the name ok Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:24:24 -0400 There is no release criterion in the Testing/QA group for the release name. Before millions see the latest great work from a multi

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-06 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/04/06 12:35 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: Felix Miata wrote: Maybe it's time to dispense with the script (menu.lst/grub.conf) CLUE ^^ CLUE :-) I don't understand how that would help. It seems to me that that wou

is the name ok

2012-04-06 Thread george2
There is no release criterion in the Testing/QA group for the release name. Before millions see the latest great work from a multitude of contributors, should this group pause to reflect if the release name is appropriate for world wide release. I ask your attention that the name/ logo/ and pa

Re: F17 vs. Pentium 4

2012-04-06 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Thu, 5 Apr 2012, Felix Miata wrote: On 2012/04/05 20:17 (GMT-0500) Michael Hennebry composed: The pause commands are so I can tell how far booting gets before it craps out on me. 'Tis annoying to watch what little I might understand disappear before I can read it or even tell where it came

mouse scroll -- switches desktop

2012-04-06 Thread Joshua Andrews
I'm using KDE and I'm running F17 in virtualbox so I'm not sure where the problem lies. Using the mouse wheel scrolls the virtual desktop even with the mouse inside an application window. This is very annoying. I have looked at all the desktop settings, configurations, whatever I can find that

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-06 Thread Kamil Paral
The discussion died off, so I'll sum it up: * Almost everyone agreed that current situation is highly unsatisfactory. * We have several ideas how to remedy it, which include: top bar button, notification and welcome screen. * We have just a single implementation, which is the top bar button. S

new Release Criterion proposal: kernel+initrd boot

2012-04-06 Thread Kamil Paral
Recently we found out that we don't have any criterion for PXE boot. Also F17 anaconda separated its root image from initrd.img, adding new ways where things can break. In the QA meeting we decided that new criterion is required [1]. Relevant bugs are: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id

F-17 Branched report: 20120406 changes

2012-04-06 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Apr 6 08:15:05 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [HippoDraw] HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.i686 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.x86_64 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-

[Test-Announce] [Fedora test day report] Gnome Shell Software Rendering 2012-03-29

2012-04-06 Thread Martin Holec
Hi, last Thursday/Friday was Gnome Shell Software Rendering Test Day. Numbers of attendants exceed my initial expectations. We have 15 configurations tested, some modern as well as some older hardware and also virtualized machines. Unfortunately, I spent most of Thursday building custom test im

Re: Resend: 17 Beta-RC3 netinst.iso in vbox fails

2012-04-06 Thread G.Wolfe Woodbury
I found that there is a glitch of some kind in the video of virtualbox-4.1.10_Gentoo under kernel 3.3.1 (Radeon REDWOOD system video) Trying Fedora 14 boot.iso and Fedora 15 boot.iso work normally Fedora 16 boot.iso and F17 boot.iso while booting do not show the plymouth bottom bars (just a blan