Working multiboot configuration

2011-08-31 Thread Marty Felkler
My first post as a new thread to this list. Using'grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg' which as I said on the FedoraForums is the correct way to create a boot grub.cfg (/boot/grub is empty except for the splash file - no grub.cfg) --b

Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-08-31 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 17:15 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:03:44 -0700 > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > it would probably help to know what *was* in the update set. > > OK, from yum.log: > while in this case yum.log is fine. I would like to encourage you to use the yum hi

Re: Draft 'install alongside Windows' test case

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 20:45 -0400, Al Dunsmuir wrote: > On Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 8:08:19 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hey, folks. I just threw together a quick draft of an 'install alongside > > Windows' test case - we have this as a final criterion, but no test case > > for it as of yet. H

Re: [Fedora QA] #222: L10N Test Day

2011-08-31 Thread Fedora QA
#222: L10N Test Day ---+ Reporter: noriko| Owner: Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 16 Component: Test Day | Version: Resolu

Re: Draft 'install alongside Windows' test case

2011-08-31 Thread Al Dunsmuir
On Wednesday, August 31, 2011, 8:08:19 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hey, folks. I just threw together a quick draft of an 'install alongside > Windows' test case - we have this as a final criterion, but no test case > for it as of yet. Here's the draft: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwi

Draft 'install alongside Windows' test case

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, folks. I just threw together a quick draft of an 'install alongside Windows' test case - we have this as a final criterion, but no test case for it as of yet. Here's the draft: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_QA_Testcase_install_alongside_Windows any comments, questions, s

Re: Oh no! Something has gone wrong.

2011-08-31 Thread Jon Masters
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 20:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > GNOME devs refer to the screen as the 'fail whale'. The difference is, Twitter has millions (billions?) of users, most of whom are non-technical and explicitly don't want to know what went wrong with *Twitter's* servers. Most desktop Lin

Re: Release criteria: kickstart

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 16:26 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I propose that to get something in place now we go minimal, and just > implement what there was consensus on: smooge's suggested criterion - > > "Does it take a minimal kickstart and build a default system. The > minimal being the exact

Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-08-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:21:13 -0700, AW (Adam) wrote: > > OK, from yum.log: > > Obvious suspects there - gnome-bluetooth and udev for the BT keyboard > issue, claws-mail itself for the claws update. note that it seems to > have obsoleted some kind of native viewer plugin - Aug 31 14:35:59 > Erased

Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-08-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 01:26:29 +0200, me wrote: > On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:57:55 -0600, JC (Jonathan) wrote: > > > So, I thought...LWN writing is almost done for the day, why not do an > > update and see what happens? > > > - claws-mail is back to its old tricks: pop-under compose windows, focus > >

Re: [Fedora QA] #222: L10N Test Day

2011-08-31 Thread Fedora QA
#222: L10N Test Day ---+ Reporter: noriko| Owner: Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 16 Component: Test Day | Version: Resolu

Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-08-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:57:55 -0600, JC (Jonathan) wrote: > So, I thought...LWN writing is almost done for the day, why not do an > update and see what happens? > - claws-mail is back to its old tricks: pop-under compose windows, focus >weirdness, etc. In Rawhide there has been an update fro

Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 17:15 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:03:44 -0700 > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > it would probably help to know what *was* in the update set. > > OK, from yum.log: Obvious suspects there - gnome-bluetooth and udev for the BT keyboard issue, claws-mai

Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-08-31 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:03:44 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > it would probably help to know what *was* in the update set. OK, from yum.log: Aug 31 07:17:02 Updated: atk-2.1.5-1.fc16.x86_64 Aug 31 07:17:03 Updated: gtk3-3.1.12-1.fc16.x86_64 Aug 31 07:17:07 Updated: mono-core-2.10.5-1.fc17.x86_64

Re: Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 16:57 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > So, I thought...LWN writing is almost done for the day, why not do an > update and see what happens? > > What happened: > > - My Logitech bluetooth keyboard, which has Just Worked for years, >doesn't work anymore. Grub still sees i

Some days it just doesn't pay to update

2011-08-31 Thread Jonathan Corbet
So, I thought...LWN writing is almost done for the day, why not do an update and see what happens? What happened: - My Logitech bluetooth keyboard, which has Just Worked for years, doesn't work anymore. Grub still sees it fine, but the running system does not. Sometimes unplugging and re

Re: services and systemd in F16

2011-08-31 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 31.8.2011 18:39, Adam Williamson napsal(a): > systemd is already smart enough, but the services themselves have to be > written with support, and sometimes the underlying daemons need slight > tweaking to support socket activation. Just a bit of self-promotion. Bitlbee in Fedora has socket act

Re: Pungi build on F16

2011-08-31 Thread Jens Falsmar Oechsler
On 29-08-2011 20:20, Jens Falsmar Oechsler wrote: > Hello there > I'm trying out Pungi build on Fedora 16 "branch": > pungi --force --nosource --nodebuginfo --cachedir=/home/joe/Pungibuild/cache > -G > -C -B -I --flavor Fedora --name Fedora --ver 16 -c > /home/joe/fedora-16-pre-install.ks > It gi

Re: Oh no! Something has gone wrong.

2011-08-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:11:04 -0700, AW (Adam) wrote: > GNOME devs refer to the screen as the 'fail whale'. It shows up if any > key Shell component crashes in a loop. The key message to look for is > "respawning too quickly", thus: > > (gnome-settings-daemon:1639): GnomeDesktop-WARNING **: could

Re: services and systemd in F16

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 22:06 -0600, Peter G. wrote: > I am looking forward to the day when systemd becomes smart enough to know > that > it should start the required service for me. systemd is already smart enough, but the services themselves have to be written with support, and sometimes the un

F-16 Branched report: 20110831 changes

2011-08-31 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Aug 31 13:15:23 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 389-ds-base-1.2.9.0-1.fc16.2.x86_64 requires libnetsnmpagent.so.25()(64bit) 389-ds-base-1.2.9.0-1.fc16.2.x86_64 requires libnetsnmpmibs.so.25()(64bit)

Re: services and systemd in F16

2011-08-31 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 17:01 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote: > On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 20:20 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 22:48 -0600, Peter G. wrote: > > > In the system-config-services, I see that sshd is not running when I boot > > > the > > > computer. > > > > You can't

Re: services and systemd in F16

2011-08-31 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 20:20 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 22:48 -0600, Peter G. wrote: > > In the system-config-services, I see that sshd is not running when I boot > > the > > computer. > > You can't rely on system-config-services any more, as it does not > understand sy

Re: [Fedora QA] #234: Fedora Packager for Eclipse F16 test day.

2011-08-31 Thread Fedora QA
#234: Fedora Packager for Eclipse F16 test day. ---+ Reporter: arobinso | Owner: Type: task | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 16 Component: Test Day |

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2011-08-31 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 08/31/2011 10:03 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On 08/31/2011 08:14 AM, Andre Robatino wrote: >> As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Beta Test Compose 1 >> (TC1) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for >> download links and testing instructions. In general, offici

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2011-08-31 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 08/31/2011 08:14 AM, Andre Robatino wrote: > As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Beta Test Compose 1 > (TC1) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for > download links and testing instructions. In general, official live > images arrive a few hours after the instal

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2011-08-31 Thread Bruce Cowan
-- Bruce Cowan On Aug 31, 2011 1:16 PM, "Andre Robatino" wrote: > As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Beta Test Compose 1 > (TC1) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for > download links and testing instructions. In general, official live > images arrive a few ho

[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) Available Now!

2011-08-31 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Beta Test Compose 1 (TC1) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for download links and testing instructions. In general, official live images arrive a few hours after the install images: see the links below for updates. When they a