Ian Pilcher gmail.com> writes:
> ...
> > It was stated that GNOME upstream, to use the Ford analogy, have eliminated
> > the panel/menu/desktop-icon desktop metaphor from existence in Fedora 'by
> > fiat'. I find that a pretty silly argument given the choices that are
> > available.
> ...
> In
On 04/25/2011 09:36 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> (drifting way off-topic for test@, at this point...)
Maybe we need fedora-gno...@redhat.com?
> It was stated that GNOME upstream, to use the Ford analogy, have eliminated
> the panel/menu/desktop-icon desktop metaphor from existence in Fedora '
(drifting way off-topic for test@, at this point...)
Gregory Maxwell (gmaxw...@gmail.com) said:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > http://git.gnome.org/
> > http://spins.fedoraproject.org/
> >
> > The beautiful thing about open source is that you always have that c
This seems a lot like this:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693442
On 26/04/2011 10:05 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear folks,
>
> I have a fully updated F15 Machine that sometimes just stops(internet
> connection), can't update anymore. Only way out of it is to restart :(
>
> get
Dear folks,
I have a fully updated F15 Machine that sometimes just stops(internet
connection), can't update anymore. Only way out of it is to restart :(
get a WARNING:
[ 412.016078] [ cut here ]
[ 412.016096] WARNING: at net/sched/sch_generic.c:256 dev_watchdog+0xe2/0
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On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 19:08 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/braindump/oss-happens.html
That's an excellent bookmark, thanks for the laugh :)
Jon.
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:45:01 +0800
Ed Greshko wrote:
> Why didn't the folks making all the noise "get involved" earlier?
For the same reason the vast majority of people are always
shocked by the open source developers: Most people have better
things to do with their time than obsessively follow e
On 04/26/2011 06:06 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>Perhaps there are different issues being discussed here - if so we
> should be more clear in separating them:
>
> (i) gnome-3
>
> + Pros and Cons ..
> + how can we make it better ...
>
> The above implies its gnome not fedo
On 04/25/2011 05:23 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Ian Pilcher (arequip...@gmail.com) said:
>> On 04/25/2011 11:19 AM, drago01 wrote:
...
>
> http://git.gnome.org/
> http://spins.fedoraproject.org/
>
Perhaps there are different issues being discussed here - if so we
should be more clea
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> http://git.gnome.org/
> http://spins.fedoraproject.org/
>
> The beautiful thing about open source is that you always have that choice.
> Sure, you may not like the amount of effort that may be involved (on a
> scale that goes from switching
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said:
> Did gnome-panel recently switch backend to gsettings or something? That
> was the first explanation that popped into my head when I read the
> symptoms.
Yes.
Bill
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Ian Pilcher (arequip...@gmail.com) said:
> On 04/25/2011 11:19 AM, drago01 wrote:
> > "If I'd asked people what they wanted, they would have said a faster
> > horse.” – Henry Ford
>
> But Henry Ford didn't eliminate animal powered transportation by fiat.
> The "people" ultimately decided that the
The following Fedora 13 Security updates need testing:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tor-0.2.1.29-1300.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mingw32-openssl-1.0.0-0.7.beta4.fc13
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/SimGear-2.0.0-5.fc13
https://admin.fedoraprojec
The following Fedora 14 Security updates need testing:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/tomcat6-6.0.26-20.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mingw32-openssl-1.0.0a-2.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/wireshark-1.4.6-1.fc14
https://admin.fedoraproject.org
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Tom Horsley (horsley1...@gmail.com) said:
>> Just curious why sendmail is still the default on f15?
>
> Inertia. No one has yet cared about this enough to overcome the rash of
> complaints & discussion that such a change would entail.
Corr
cornel panceac (cpanc...@gmail.com) said:
> # yum groupinstall Window\ Managers
> ...
> Warning: Group window-managers does not have any packages.
> No packages in any requested group available to install or update
It doesn't have any *default* packages.
yum --setopt=group_package_types=default,
Tom Horsley (horsley1...@gmail.com) said:
> Just curious why sendmail is still the default on f15?
Inertia. No one has yet cared about this enough to overcome the rash of
complaints & discussion that such a change would entail.
Bill
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On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 04/25/2011 12:35 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>> On 04/25/2011 12:19 PM, drago01 wrote:
>>
>>> "If I'd asked people what they wanted, they would have said a faster
>>> horse.” – Henry Ford
>
>
> Far more likely ... if they had been asked
On 04/25/2011 12:35 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 04/25/2011 12:19 PM, drago01 wrote:
>
>> "If I'd asked people what they wanted, they would have said a faster
>> horse.” – Henry Ford
Far more likely ... if they had been asked they would have asked for
flying vehicles like they had been read
Ford was the tablet to the day's traditional desktop (not sure what anology to
use with Diesel). If the traditional horse is to die, let it die on its own,
and let tablet interfaces replace it. Consumers will happily move over at their
own pace.
I am well aware of the history of the automobile.
On 04/25/2011 12:19 PM, drago01 wrote:
> "If I'd asked people what they wanted, they would have said a faster
> horse.” – Henry Ford
>
> Horses even had a *much* longer tradition then the windows 95 style desktop ;)
o We didn't move from horse to car - we moved from horse to donkey :-)
o Or
On 04/25/2011 11:19 AM, drago01 wrote:
> "If I'd asked people what they wanted, they would have said a faster
> horse.” – Henry Ford
But Henry Ford didn't eliminate animal powered transportation by fiat.
The "people" ultimately decided that they preferred motorized transport.
GNOME users are not
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Jonathan Masters wrote:
> I think the point is that it takes many years to build traction. We should
> consider we have established players in desktop and a trend towards Android,
> iOS, MeeGo etc. powered devices in the consumer space over a pure play Linux
> d
I think the point is that it takes many years to build traction. We should
consider we have established players in desktop and a trend towards Android,
iOS, MeeGo etc. powered devices in the consumer space over a pure play Linux
distro. We would have been better served in the traditional distro
On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 11:10 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-04-18 at 10:03 -0400, James Laska wrote:
>
> > But that's a bit open to interpretation. For example, it could be said
> > (I think I even did) that reboot/shutdown does work, it just takes
> > forever. Anyone else think it
On 04/24/2011 09:52 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> some folks wanted kde 3.5.X back, and Fedora would not go back and put in Kde
> 3.5.x ---> i don't see Fedora putting Gnome 2.3X back just because people
> want it or miss some features
You make a good point that from Fedora's point of view, the
John Morris beau.org> writes:
>
> On Sat, 2011-04-23 at 07:50 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > GNOME 2.0 came out in 2002, so we had that interface for nine years.
> > It's not like no-one gave it a chance.
>
> Quite the contrary, people seem to like it and are confused when things
> that w
Greetings folks,
It's hard to believe that the Final release phase is right around the
corner (starts next week). Please continue to file bugs for release
criteria blockers [2]. If you are unsure about the impact/severity of a
bug, reach out on test@lists.fedoraproject.org for guidance. Time is
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Hi all,
having 2 questions concerning ksudoku in F15:
Q1: how to print a ksudoku game in F15 without making a screen foto?
Q2: Are there additional themes for ksudoku?
Kind regards
Joachim Backes
http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes
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