[Test-Announce] Xfce Test Day tomorrow!

2011-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
Remember, everyone tomorrow - 2011-02-17 - is Xfce Test Day! F15 will have Xfce 4.8 and this version is in already, so we need lots of testing to make sure it's all working fine. All the test info is on the Wiki page - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-02-17_Xfce - and we'll be in #fedor

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 18:02 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 02:12:18PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 14:57 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > > > > Just in case somebody thinks that I am exaggerating > > > > Well, I mean, that's obviously a bug

Alpha TC2 installs

2011-02-16 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
I was able to specify a custom layout with TC2. The 64 bit install still locks up with an Nvidia 9600GT (default driver) I cannot get the compiler, linker, etc. to install, even with yum, so I could not test TC2 with Nvidia's driver. -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.com www.omen.co

Re: Annoying IMSettings notification

2011-02-16 Thread A S Alam
ਵੀਰਵਾਰ 17 ਫ਼ਰਵਰੀ 2011 04:19 ਸਵੇਰੇ ਨੂੰ, Ian Pilcher ਨੇ ਲਿਖਿਆ: > On 02/16/2011 03:07 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: >> Every time I log in to KDE, I'm greeted with the following notification: >> >>No modules loaded >> >>IMSettings won't affects anything on your desktop. please make sure >>if you

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 02:12:18PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 14:57 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > > Just in case somebody thinks that I am exaggerating > > Well, I mean, that's obviously a bug. A bug. So which of the issues I was talking about is "a bug"? Or do

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Michal Jaegermann
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 05:06:25PM -0500, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 02:57:43PM -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > > On my 1600x1200 screen I am getting a totally unreadable mess with a > > bunch of crazy hieroglyphics (icons) with absolutely undecipherable > > titles. Where s

Fedora 13 updates-testing report

2011-02-16 Thread updates
The following Fedora 13 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dbus-1.2.24-2.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/subversion-1.6.15-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kernel-2.6.34.8-67.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates

Fedora 14 updates-testing report

2011-02-16 Thread updates
The following Fedora 14 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gitolite-1.5.3-2.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/telepathy-gabble-0.10.5-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/Django-1.2.5-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/up

Re: Annoying IMSettings notification

2011-02-16 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 02/16/2011 03:07 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: > Every time I log in to KDE, I'm greeted with the following notification: > > No modules loaded > > IMSettings won't affects anything on your desktop. please make sure > if you have proper... > > Any idea how I can turn this off? > > (I supposed

Re: Keyboard in X doesn't work (Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!)

2011-02-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
s doesn't work either. For > > GNOME Test Day I confirmed that they keyboard doesn't work in XFCE either. > > > > Today's X log is this: > > http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/Xorg.0.log.20110216 > > Does it work if you boot 'runlevel 3'? Yes. A

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 14:57 -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > Just in case somebody thinks that I am exaggerating attached is > a picture with a fragment of a "new look" of my screen. Even if > something could be done with a rendering if colours cannot be fixed > then this is a total reject too.

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Nalin Dahyabhai
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 02:57:43PM -0700, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On my 1600x1200 screen I am getting a totally unreadable mess with a > bunch of crazy hieroglyphics (icons) with absolutely undecipherable > titles. Where some letters can be distinguished they are obviously > doubles. What is m

Re: Keyboard in X doesn't work (Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!)

2011-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
rk in XFCE either. > > Today's X log is this: > http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/Xorg.0.log.20110216 Does it work if you boot 'runlevel 3'? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.n

Keyboard in X doesn't work (Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!)

2011-02-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
ething into the graphical login screen from GNOME. It doesn't work. Switching to virtual consoles doesn't work either. For GNOME Test Day I confirmed that they keyboard doesn't work in XFCE either. Today's X log is this: http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/Xorg.0.log.2011

Fedora 15 updates-testing report

2011-02-16 Thread updates
The following Fedora 15 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gitolite-1.5.8-3.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/phpMyAdmin-3.3.9.2-1.fc15 The following Fedora 15 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved: https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Annoying IMSettings notification

2011-02-16 Thread Ian Pilcher
Every time I log in to KDE, I'm greeted with the following notification: No modules loaded IMSettings won't affects anything on your desktop. please make sure if you have proper... Any idea how I can turn this off? (I supposed that the translation problems should be reported upstream. Any

Re: systemd won't start dovecot

2011-02-16 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 02/16/2011 02:20 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: > On 02/16/2011 01:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> What does 'systemctl start dovecot.service' do? > > That works. No output, but "systemctl status dovecot.service" says that > it's running. > I added the following to /lib/systemd/system/dovecot.se

Re: systemd won't start dovecot

2011-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 14:20 -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote: > On 02/16/2011 01:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 12:30 -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote: > >> I have been unable to get systemd to start dovecot. I've chkconfig'ed > >> it on to no avail. "systemctl enable dovecot.service" sa

Re: systemd won't start dovecot

2011-02-16 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 02/16/2011 01:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 12:30 -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote: >> I have been unable to get systemd to start dovecot. I've chkconfig'ed >> it on to no avail. "systemctl enable dovecot.service" says: >> >> Unit files contain no applicable installation inform

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 08:34 -0600, John Watzke wrote: > > > Do you have a ATI graphics card by any chance? > > I'm wondering if we are seeing a trend happening here with ATI > graphics > cards... > > Btw Install abrt-cli package and switch

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 08:44 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 02/15/2011 08:24 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > probably another for cases of fallback failing on cards where > > we don't expect GNOME Shell to work. > > I'm pretty sure this one needs to be wikified and stuffed into release

Tracker available for GNOME Shell fallback failures

2011-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey, everyone. I've created a tracker bug to try and collect all cases where GNOME Shell initialization fails and fallback mode doesn't work - i.e. where trying to enter GNOME results in a complete failure (but you can get into a non-accelerated desktop, like Xfce). If your bug report meets this de

Re: systemd won't start dovecot

2011-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 12:30 -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote: > I have been unable to get systemd to start dovecot. I've chkconfig'ed > it on to no avail. "systemctl enable dovecot.service" says: > > Unit files contain no applicable installation information. Ignoring. What does 'systemctl start dovecot

Fedora 13 updates-testing report

2011-02-16 Thread updates
The following Fedora 13 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dbus-1.2.24-2.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/subversion-1.6.15-1.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kernel-2.6.34.8-67.fc13 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates

Fedora 14 updates-testing report

2011-02-16 Thread updates
The following Fedora 14 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gitolite-1.5.3-2.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/krb5-1.8.2-8.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/Django-1.2.5-1.fc14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/feh-1.1

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 03:45:30PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 02/16/2011 02:26 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 07:32:07AM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > >> 2011/2/16 Adam Williamson: > >>> That is a, ahem, policy decision. > >> What? 8-| What's next? Shutdow

systemd won't start dovecot

2011-02-16 Thread Ian Pilcher
I have been unable to get systemd to start dovecot. I've chkconfig'ed it on to no avail. "systemctl enable dovecot.service" says: Unit files contain no applicable installation information. Ignoring. Any ideas? Thanks! -- ===

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 18:21 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > That's likely because this is still before the Alpha. Adjusting the > > documentation to match reality is something we'll need to get lined up > > for the installation guide. Which pages were confusing? > > https://fedoraproject.org

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 18:21 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:30:31 -0500, James wrote: > > > If you add "askmethod" and it segfaults/crashes ... that's a bug. I'd > > like to see this issue fixed. I don't believe "askmethod" is going > > away, > > > In the meantime, can y

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:30:31 -0500, James wrote: > If you add "askmethod" and it segfaults/crashes ... that's a bug. I'd > like to see this issue fixed. I don't believe "askmethod" is going > away, > In the meantime, can you provide some more information on the > segfault/crash? Even better, p

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 16 lutego 2011 07:32 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski napisał: > 2011/2/16 Adam Williamson : [..] >> We definitely need reports on such 'odd' (i.e. not US ASCII...) >> character set issues, i18n issues etc - can you double-check it and file >> the issue if it's reproducible? Thanks. > > I'll ch

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 17:23 +0100, Christoph Frieben wrote: > 2011/2/16 Chuck Anderson: > > Excellent idea. Who needs to shutdown when you can just suspend/hibernate? > > Actually, you can **not** suspend: item "Suspend.." merely opens a > "Shutdown" dialog. ~C You can suspend by shutting the li

Fwd: Introduction

2011-02-16 Thread koustava goswami
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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 15:17 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:07:18 -0500, James wrote: > > > On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 12:35 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:34:43 -0500, Andre wrote: > > > > > > > Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 is now available [1]. Please ref

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Christoph Frieben
2011/2/16 Chuck Anderson: > Excellent idea.  Who needs to shutdown when you can just suspend/hibernate? Actually, you can **not** suspend: item "Suspend.." merely opens a "Shutdown" dialog. ~C -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 09:01 +0100, Kjartan Maraas wrote: > We still have to reboot to use a newly installed kernel. Isn't that a > valid enough use case for this? Aren't there other kinds of updates that > mandate a reboot as well? Updates that require a reboot are supposed to be handled by packa

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 16 lutego 2011 16:43 użytkownik Michael Cronenworth napisał: > Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> Sorry, but I do not have time for it. Gnome developers can do whatever >> they like with >> their software. But they should expect that it will meet with critical >> reactions from users. >> >> Restar

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 11:43 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On 02/16/2011 10:25 AM, James Laska wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 08:52 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > >> On 02/16/2011 12:25 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 21:45 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On 02/15/20

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/16/2011 02:26 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 07:32:07AM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> 2011/2/16 Adam Williamson: >>> That is a, ahem, policy decision. >> What? 8-| What's next? Shutdown option? > > Excellent idea. Who needs to shutdown when you can just > suspend/h

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Sorry, but I do not have time for it. Gnome developers can do whatever > they like with > their software. But they should expect that it will meet with critical > reactions from users. > > Restart option was in Gnome menu since I can remember - and I remember > the times

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/16/2011 10:25 AM, James Laska wrote: > On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 08:52 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: >> On 02/16/2011 12:25 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 21:45 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 02/15/2011 09:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 23:3

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/2/16 Chuck Anderson : > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 07:32:07AM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> 2011/2/16 Adam Williamson : >> > That is a, ahem, policy decision. >> >> What? 8-| What's next? Shutdown option? > > > Excellent idea.  Who needs to shutdown when you can just > suspend/hibernate? >

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 07:32:07AM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > 2011/2/16 Adam Williamson : > > That is a, ahem, policy decision. > > What? 8-| What's next? Shutdown option? Excellent idea. Who needs to shutdown when you can just suspend/hibernate? Actually though, I highly recommend re

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 08:52 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > On 02/16/2011 12:25 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 21:45 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > >> On 02/15/2011 09:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 23:30 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > > >>

Fedora 15 updates-testing report

2011-02-16 Thread updates
The following Fedora 15 Security updates need testing: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gitolite-1.5.8-3.fc15 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/phpMyAdmin-3.3.9.2-1.fc15 The following Fedora 15 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved: https://admin.fedoraproject.

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:07:18 -0500, James wrote: > On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 12:35 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:34:43 -0500, Andre wrote: > > > > > Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 is now available [1]. Please refer to the following > > > pages for download links and testing instruct

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/16/2011 12:25 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 21:45 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: >> On 02/15/2011 09:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 23:30 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: that lettel "ł" caused it. Second issue - I don't have a "restart"

Re: cups-1.4.6-9.fc15.x86_64 error...

2011-02-16 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 17:42 +, Tim Waugh wrote: > On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 09:29 -0800, Rob Healey wrote: > > I also do not believe that I currently have any problems now! Nothing > > that a good reboot could not fix... Here that last thing in the > > error_log... > > Oh, shame you rebooted it.

Re: FC15 TC2 Install failure

2011-02-16 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 17:32 -0500, Gregory Woodbury wrote: > TC2 DVD desktop image boots and starts the install. > > The install fails with hugin missing a dependency on pano and won't > continue > > Netinst reports that the local mirror doesn't contain an install image > and halts It shouldn't

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 12:35 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:34:43 -0500, Andre wrote: > > > Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 is now available [1]. Please refer to the following > > pages for download links and testing instructions. > > > > Installation: > > > > https://fedoraproject.

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 17:11 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 08:36 -0500, James Laska wrote: > > > Good-bye install.img, hello initrd.img! > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Features/UnifiedInitrd > > > > The installer no longer needs to locate where install.img i

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:34:43 -0500, Andre wrote: > Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 is now available [1]. Please refer to the following > pages for download links and testing instructions. > > Installation: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test The x86_64 DVD.iso still s

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/16/2011 08:01 AM, Kjartan Maraas wrote: > We still have to reboot to use a newly installed kernel. Isn't that a > valid enough use case for this? Aren't there other kinds of updates that > mandate a reboot as well? > > gnome-packagekit has several strings referring to restart being needed > a

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/16/2011 02:45 AM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: >>> option in Gnome menu. >> > >> > That is a, ahem, policy decision. > Hi, Adam, > > Could you say some more about the policy decision or point to a msg or > whatever. Need to understand what is going on. Bring up this questionable UI Design up on t

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha TC2 Available Now!

2011-02-16 Thread Kjartan Maraas
ti., 15.02.2011 kl. 21.25 -0800, skrev Adam Williamson: > On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 21:45 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > > On 02/15/2011 09:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 23:30 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > > >> > > >> that lettel "ł" caused it. Second issue - I don't h