Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread drago01
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > >  As a side note - google chrome has native flash builtin .. No it doesn't ... it just ships with the flash plugin bundled but it does not have "native flash support". -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: htt

Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread Chris Kloiber
On 07/07/2010 07:01 PM, birger wrote: There is no 64 bit build for windows? Wow. I didn't expect that. Perhaps i am getting too distant from that other os. Microsoft ships the 32-bit IE as the default browser even on 64 bit builds just so the plugins work (AFAICT). No matter why they remove

Re: /media directory weirdness

2010-07-07 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 06:55 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 07/07/2010 09:22 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > hi, > > > > I'm using a Seagate USB hard drive which is divided into 3 partitions, 2 > > ext3 and one NTFS. There is new very weird behavior when it comes to > > directories in the /media folde

Re: /media directory weirdness

2010-07-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/07/2010 09:22 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > hi, > > I'm using a Seagate USB hard drive which is divided into 3 partitions, 2 > ext3 and one NTFS. There is new very weird behavior when it comes to > directories in the /media folder. > > The partition names are: > Ankur_backup, Stuff, NTFS Temp > >

Re: /media directory weirdness

2010-07-07 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 13:23 -0600, Kevin DeKorte wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/07/2010 01:22 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > hi, > > > > I'm using a Seagate USB hard drive which is divided into 3 partitions, 2 > > ext3 and one NTFS. There is new very weird behavior

Re: [Fedora QA] #101: ProvenTester Mentor requesr: redwolfe (G.Wolfe Woodbury)

2010-07-07 Thread Fedora QA
#101: ProvenTester Mentor requesr: redwolfe (G.Wolfe Woodbury) --+- Reporter: redwolfe | Owner: jlaska Type: proventester request | Status: assigned Priority: major

Re: test Digest, Vol 77, Issue 4

2010-07-07 Thread He Rui
Hi Bob, You could reply this directly in the ticket[!], which is used to track your request. But no worries, I've already sponsored you. Thanks for application, and happy testing! :) Cheers, Hurry [!] https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/99 On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 07:55 -0400, Bob Ligh

Re: [Fedora QA] #99: Proven Tester Mentor Request

2010-07-07 Thread Fedora QA
#99: Proven Tester Mentor Request --+- Reporter: boblfoot | Owner: rhe Type: proventester request | Status: closed Priority: major| Milestone:

Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 22:29 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > As a side note - google chrome has native flash builtin .. But alas, Chromium doesn't (for obvious reasons). poc -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread Genes MailLists
As a side note - google chrome has native flash builtin .. -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread birger
There is no 64 bit build for windows? Wow. I didn't expect that. Perhaps i am getting too distant from that other os. No matter why they removed the 64 bit build (being as closed as it is we can only guess anyway) it ought to generate more interest in getting gnash fixed up. It seems to have

Re: Proven Testers IRC Channel??

2010-07-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:01:06 -0400 Bob Lightfoot wrote: > Dear Proven Testers and those in mentoring: > I've been wondering lately is there a place in IRC where QA and > the Proven Testers can exchange near real time information on what we > are testing. I know that most information pass

Re: Proven Testers IRC Channel??

2010-07-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 18:01 -0400, Bob Lightfoot wrote: > Dear Proven Testers and those in mentoring: > I've been wondering lately is there a place in IRC where QA and > the Proven Testers can exchange near real time information on what we > are testing. I know that most information passes

Re: Proven tester wiki love

2010-07-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 14:19 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > Silly idea...how about assigning a requirement that each bugfix (or at > least a majority of them) in a kernel require positive karma before the > kernel is blessed? The idea is that most bugfixes are just that--fixes. > Otherwise it'd be s

Proven Testers IRC Channel??

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Lightfoot
Dear Proven Testers and those in mentoring: I've been wondering lately is there a place in IRC where QA and the Proven Testers can exchange near real time information on what we are testing. I know that most information passes thru test@lists.fedoraproject.org but I was wondering as prove

Re: Proven tester wiki love

2010-07-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/07/2010 12:29 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> Thinking about it, though, we could consider a slightly different >> process for the kernel, as it's a component that's *extremely* subject >> to different experiences for different users. I'm

Re: [Fedora QA] #76: Use two methods to specify install source

2010-07-07 Thread Fedora QA
#76: Use two methods to specify install source --+- Reporter: rhe | Owner: rhe Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major| Milestone: Fedora 14 Component: Wiki

Re: [Fedora QA] #100: mentor request

2010-07-07 Thread Fedora QA
#100: mentor request --+- Reporter: mrunge | Owner: jlaska Type: proventester request | Status: assigned Priority: major| Milestone:

Re: [Fedora QA] #101: ProvenTester Mentor requesr: redwolfe (G.Wolfe Woodbury)

2010-07-07 Thread Fedora QA
#101: ProvenTester Mentor requesr: redwolfe (G.Wolfe Woodbury) --+- Reporter: redwolfe | Owner: jlaska Type: proventester request | Status: assigned Priority: major

RE: Proven tester wiki love

2010-07-07 Thread John Dulaney
I am wondering, how hard would it be to modify Bodhi to require extra Karma for kernels? Who should I talk to about this possibility? John, Son of Clay. > Subject: Re: Proven tester wiki love > From: awill...@redhat.com > To: test@lists.fedoraproject.org > Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:16:47 -0700 >

Re: Fedora 14 test release blocker bugs

2010-07-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 12:40 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 7/6/10 5:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 17:10 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > >> Hard to believe, but Fedora QA starts its "Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance > >> Tes

Re: Fedora 14 test release blocker bugs

2010-07-07 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/6/10 5:22 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 17:10 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: >> Hard to believe, but Fedora QA starts its "Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance >> Test Plan" testing this Thursday (2010-07-08). >> >> We've run out of tim

Re: Proven tester wiki love

2010-07-07 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Thinking about it, though, we could consider a slightly different > process for the kernel, as it's a component that's *extremely* subject > to different experiences for different users. I'm not sure the workflow > we've designed will work

Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 20:31 +0200, birger wrote: >> The claim i saw was that they had chosen to redesign the 64 bit flash >> completely. >> >> Given that windows seems to be quickly abandoning 32 bit support >> (first on servers) a completel

Re: /media directory weirdness

2010-07-07 Thread Kevin DeKorte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/07/2010 01:22 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > hi, > > I'm using a Seagate USB hard drive which is divided into 3 partitions, 2 > ext3 and one NTFS. There is new very weird behavior when it comes to > directories in the /media folder. > > The partitio

/media directory weirdness

2010-07-07 Thread Ankur Sinha
hi, I'm using a Seagate USB hard drive which is divided into 3 partitions, 2 ext3 and one NTFS. There is new very weird behavior when it comes to directories in the /media folder. The partition names are: Ankur_backup, Stuff, NTFS Temp at times when I plug in my external HDD, the /media dir has

Re: Proven tester wiki love

2010-07-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 19:22 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 19:33 -0500, Aaron Faanes wrote: > >> I went to work a bit on jdulaney's fork of the proven tester page to > >> make the mentorship-merging stuff fit a little m

Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 20:31 +0200, birger wrote: > The claim i saw was that they had chosen to redesign the 64 bit flash > completely. > > Given that windows seems to be quickly abandoning 32 bit support > (first on servers) a completely rewritten 64 bit flash makes sense > even if it means more

Re: Some random questions about proventester and fedora groups

2010-07-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 20:01 +0100, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm a Fedora Rawhide tester, obviously I have FAS account and Bugzilla > account and i whish to join a group > > which one is the most appropriate ? > > > I have read about "Proven tester" [1], i whish to know much hou

Some random questions about proventester and fedora groups

2010-07-07 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
Hello all, I'm a Fedora Rawhide tester, obviously I have FAS account and Bugzilla account and i whish to join a group which one is the most appropriate ? I have read about "Proven tester" [1], i whish to know much hours per days should i spare to that ? [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Prov

Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread birger
The claim i saw was that they had chosen to redesign the 64 bit flash completely. Given that windows seems to be quickly abandoning 32 bit support (first on servers) a completely rewritten 64 bit flash makes sense even if it means more maintenance. It may mean that 32 bit flash becomes a light

Re: Proven tester wiki love

2010-07-07 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 19:33 -0500, Aaron Faanes wrote: >> I went to work a bit on jdulaney's fork of the proven tester page to >> make the mentorship-merging stuff fit a little more smoothly, and I >> sort of got carried away. I'd normally j

Re: gnome/fc14/x86_64

2010-07-07 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/07/2010 04:30 AM, Rob Healey wrote: > All of these are issues that are stopping me from being able to do my > work effectively and efficiently... Rawhide is no go for work efficiency hence dont run rawhide on you're workstation it will more or less eat babies atleast up to freeze. Secon

Re: ProvenTesters Sponsorship

2010-07-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 09:25 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > Sounds good to me and seems like others share the opinion, I will > > update the wiki today to reflect the change as well as add the step > > for applying to FAS in the table as fenris02 pointed out to me that it > > appears to be missing.

Re: Broken dependencies with Fedora 13 + updates-testing - 2010-07-02

2010-07-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 07:55 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> >Just to note that the maintainer did actually submit an update for this, > >> >but it doesn't seem to have been pushed yet, for no apparent reason. > >> >I've asked releng about this. > >> > >> Reason: I started the push last Friday. If

Re: [Fedora QA] #78: Request for Mentor

2010-07-07 Thread Fedora QA
#78: Request for Mentor --+- Reporter: robatino | Owner: adamwill Type: proventester request | Status: closed Priority: major| Milestone:

Re: flash player 64bit?

2010-07-07 Thread Jonathan Kamens
I wasn't being snarky, I was being pragmatic. You're absolutely right that a triager should have looked at the bug in bugzilla, tried to reproduce it, and comment on the results. I can't comment on why that didn't happen. What I was commenting on was the fact that when a bug sits untouched for

Re: flash player 64bit?

2010-07-07 Thread Kevin DeKorte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/07/2010 09:59 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > The issue with nspluginwrapper and the 64-bit plugin remains, however. > But since Adobe has pulled the 64-bit plugin for now, we'll have to wait > and see if the new version still has the probl

Re: Broken dependencies with Fedora 12 + updates-testing - 2010-07-02

2010-07-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:41:14 +0200, Marcela wrote: > On 07/02/2010 12:17 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > The following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies: > > > > == > > The results in this summary consider

Re: flash player 64bit?

2010-07-07 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 11:04 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > On 7/7/2010 10:44 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > > Not true. Just because YOU can't reproduce it doesn't mean it isn't > > happening. Others have reproduced the problem and also commented as such > > on the bug report. > Whether or n

Re: [Fedora QA] #69: Proventester mentor request

2010-07-07 Thread Fedora QA
#69: Proventester mentor request --+- Reporter: mcloaked | Owner: jlaska Type: proventester request | Status: closed Priority: major| Milestone:

Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread Richard Ryniker
>[Adobe] >I want to know why they should {want} to screw us out of the internet I doubt very much Adobe wants to limit our access to the Internet. Adobe wants to apply its development resources in the way that maximizes its profit. Adobe may feel 64-bit Flash for Linux would be profitable (i

Re: flash player 64bit?

2010-07-07 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On 7/7/2010 10:44 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: Not true. Just because YOU can't reproduce it doesn't mean it isn't happening. Others have reproduced the problem and also commented as such on the bug report. Whether or not other commenters on the bug have reproduced the problem is mostly i

Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread drago01
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 01:28 -0700, Rob Healey wrote: >> Thanks for the information!  So we really are alienated from being >> able to use and benefit from the web content that should be available >> to all! > > Take another look at my ea

Re: gnome/fc14/x86_64

2010-07-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 21:30 -0700, Rob Healey wrote: > It seems like there are several issues right now: > an accessibility problem... > a bonobo issue > nautilus > gedit > nouveau driver > gramps > > All of these are issues that are stopping me from being able to do my > work effectively and eff

Re: flash player 64bit?

2010-07-07 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 10:01 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > On 7/7/2010 9:55 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > > Thanks for the pointer. Your install method works just great. > > > > ...Unfortunately, it also still means that certain sites still do not > > play video correctly due to issues with

Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 01:28 -0700, Rob Healey wrote: > Thanks for the information! So we really are alienated from being > able to use and benefit from the web content that should be available > to all! Take another look at my earlier reply, which you seem to have misunderstood. I have full acces

Re: flash player 64bit?

2010-07-07 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On 7/7/2010 9:55 AM, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > Thanks for the pointer. Your install method works just great. > > ...Unfortunately, it also still means that certain sites still do not > play video correctly due to issues with nspluginwrapper. I'd hate to > think that this bug, #579092 which

Re: flash player 64bit?

2010-07-07 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 01:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 20:53 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 16:38 -0700, Rob Healey wrote: > > > Greetings: > > > > > > Is there anything that can be used as a substitute for the flash > > > player since Adobe

Re: ProvenTesters Sponsorship

2010-07-07 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 08:10 -0500, Adam Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 16:47 -0500, Adam Miller wrote: > >> Hello testers! > >> > >> I wanted to open a conversation on the list about how we want to as a > >> group handle sponsorship

Re: ProvenTesters Sponsorship

2010-07-07 Thread Adam Miller
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 16:47 -0500, Adam Miller wrote: >> Hello testers! >> >> I wanted to open a conversation on the list about how we want to as a >> group handle sponsorship. I wanted to propose two ideas I had and >> leave the floor open

RE: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread Jonathan Kamens
From: test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [mailto:test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Rob Healey Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:29 AM To: Fedora rawhide test list Subject: 64bit Flash player Thanks for the information! So we really are alienated from being able to use and b

Re: Fedora 14 test release blocker bugs

2010-07-07 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 17:22 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 17:10 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > > Hard to believe, but Fedora QA starts its "Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance > > Test Plan" testing this Thursday (2010-07-08). > > > > We've run out of time and run way to implement

Re: Broken dependencies with Fedora 13 + updates-testing - 2010-07-02

2010-07-07 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 05:49:22PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 21:29 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 12:50:23PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 10:03 +, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> >> ===

Re: test Digest, Vol 77, Issue 4

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Lightfoot
Dear rhe: Forgive the delay in my response. Somehow I missed your initial email notifying me I had been assigned a potential sponsor. To answer your quesitons. 1.I have reviewed the proven testers guidelines and followed them for most all testing I've done since applying for spon

rawhide report: 20100707 changes

2010-07-07 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Jul 7 08:15:11 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- BackupPC-3.1.0-14.fc14.noarch requires perl-suidperl CodeAnalyst-gui-2.8.54-22.fc14.i686 requires libdwarf.so.0.0 1:anjuta-2.30.0.0-2.fc14.i686 re

Re: gnome/fc14/x86_64

2010-07-07 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hi, On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 21:30 -0700, Rob Healey wrote: > Greetings: > > I have been using rawhide for a very long time now, and I have been > having problems with gnome for a few days now... > > It seems like there are several issues right now: > an accessibility problem... > a bonobo issue >

Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 05:38:32AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2010/07/07 01:28 (GMT-0700) Rob Healey composed: > > [Adobe] > > I want to know why thay should to screw us out of the internet > > I have to think it's about money and DRM. Adobe has never released a Flash > version for the ti

Re: flash player 64bit?

2010-07-07 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 01:44:20AM -0400, Chris Kloiber wrote: > On 07/06/2010 11:16 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > >> There's an alpha release of 64bit flash that works well enough(like poc >> said, this one has as many problems as usual flash) >> >> you can look at the fedoraproject.org wiki page on fl

Re: [Fedora QA] #78: Request for Mentor

2010-07-07 Thread Fedora QA
#78: Request for Mentor --+- Reporter: robatino | Owner: adamwill Type: proventester request | Status: assigned Priority: major| Milestone:

Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread Felix Miata
On 2010/07/07 01:28 (GMT-0700) Rob Healey composed: [Adobe] > I want to know why thay should to screw us out of the internet I have to think it's about money and DRM. Adobe has never released a Flash version for the tiny OS/2 market, because nobody has paid them the big money they want to do

Re: 64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread Chris Kloiber
On 07/07/2010 04:28 AM, Rob Healey wrote: Dear poc, Ankue, and Chris: Thanks for the information! So we really are alienated from being able to use and benefit from the web content that should be available to all! If anyone who reads this that knows someone at Adobe, I would like to get a reps

64bit Flash player

2010-07-07 Thread Rob Healey
Dear poc, Ankue, and Chris: Thanks for the information! So we really are alienated from being able to use and benefit from the web content that should be available to all! If anyone who reads this that knows someone at Adobe, I would like to get a repsonse from Adobe!!! I want to know why thay

Re: flash player 64bit?

2010-07-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 20:53 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 16:38 -0700, Rob Healey wrote: > > Greetings: > > > > Is there anything that can be used as a substitute for the flash > > player since Adobe refuses and alienates 64bit users? > > > > They either expect us to u

Re: [Fedora QA] #97: Request for a mentor

2010-07-07 Thread Fedora QA
#97: Request for a mentor --+- Reporter: masami | Owner: adamwill Type: proventester request | Status: assigned Priority: major| Milestone:

Re: [Fedora QA] #78: Request for Mentor

2010-07-07 Thread Fedora QA
#78: Request for Mentor --+- Reporter: robatino | Owner: adamwill Type: proventester request | Status: assigned Priority: major| Milestone:

Re: [Fedora QA] #75: proventester mentor request: rdieter

2010-07-07 Thread Fedora QA
#75: proventester mentor request: rdieter --+- Reporter: rdieter | Owner: adamwill Type: proventester request | Status: assigned Priority: major|

Re: [Fedora QA] #64: Mentor request for proventesters

2010-07-07 Thread Fedora QA
#64: Mentor request for proventesters --+- Reporter: schaiba | Owner: adamwill Type: proventester request | Status: closed Priority: major| Mile

Re: [Fedora QA] #67: Request for Mentor

2010-07-07 Thread Fedora QA
#67: Request for Mentor --+- Reporter: kparnell | Owner: adamwill Type: proventester request | Status: closed Priority: major| Milestone:

Re: [Fedora QA] #76: Use two methods to specify install source

2010-07-07 Thread Fedora QA
#76: Use two methods to specify install source --+- Reporter: rhe | Owner: rhe Type: enhancement | Status: new Priority: major| Milestone: Fedora 14 Component: Wiki