Re: [techtalk] Testing (Was: Re: Technical issues)

2000-11-21 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 06:36:02AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ah .. well, you see, if I've got the luxury of setting my own > conditions, I'd say 'sorry, we signed off on a spec which didn't include > that feature. It can go in the next release'. > > Of course, I have that luxury in every

Re: [techtalk] Testing (Was: Re: Technical issues)

2000-11-21 Thread jenn
Mary Gardiner wrote: > > The > programmers are still feature-bloating (at management request) and hunting > out old and new bugs. Ah .. well, you see, if I've got the luxury of setting my own conditions, I'd say 'sorry, we signed off on a spec which didn't include that feature. It can go in the

Re: [techtalk] can't add default route.

2000-11-21 Thread arindamc
At Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:10:10 -0600 (CST) , Kristin Ziel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I can get this to you tomorrow...my computer is at home and i have no net >contact there.. > >thanks! > >> hi kristin >> >> send me the output of "route -n" and "ifconfig eth0". >> i think i can give u the sol

Re: [techtalk] Re: Technical issues (was Re: [grrltalk] "Confrontational" postings)

2000-11-21 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 10:37:53PM -0500, Jeff Dike wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > Well I think Linux kernel is declared stable when there are no > > *showstoppers* - I don't know about no *bugs*. > > There will be bugs. But is 2.4 going to be release with any of the bugs they know about n

Re: [techtalk] Re: Technical issues (was Re: [grrltalk] "Confrontational" postings)

2000-11-21 Thread Jeff Dike
> I'd say free of all known bugs - who would willingly, knowingly, release > buggy software as anything other than an alpha or a beta release? That would be stupid, not to mention impossible. If you're going to try to do right by your users, you want to release something as soon as the benefits

Re: [techtalk] Re: Technical issues (was Re: [grrltalk] "Confrontational" postings)

2000-11-21 Thread Jeff Dike
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Well I think Linux kernel is declared stable when there are no > *showstoppers* - I don't know about no *bugs*. I forgot to mention one thing. The current kernel bug list is maintained by Ted T'so at http://linux24.sourceforge.net/. The ones that have to be fixed bef

Re: [techtalk] Re: Technical issues (was Re: [grrltalk] "Confrontational" postings)

2000-11-21 Thread Jeff Dike
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Well I think Linux kernel is declared stable when there are no > *showstoppers* - I don't know about no *bugs*. There will be bugs. They will be squashed in succeeding 2.4 releases, as is happening with 2.2 right now. The thing with a new stable series is that the us

Re: [techtalk] Re: Technical issues (was Re: [grrltalk] "Confrontational" postings)

2000-11-21 Thread jenn
Mary Gardiner wrote: > Well I think Linux kernel is declared stable when there are no > *showstoppers* - I don't know about no *bugs*. But I'm sure there are > people on this list who follow linux development a bit more closely than I > do (says she running kernel 2.2.14). I don't know how Linu

Re: [techtalk] Testing (Was: Re: Technical issues)

2000-11-21 Thread jenn
Laurel Fan wrote: > > Excerpts from linuxchix: 21-Nov-100 [techtalk] Re: Technical is.. by > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > And not just free of known bugs, but tested well. > > So, how do you test well? What testing procedures and methodolgies > should be used? And how can adequate coverage be ensured

Re: [techtalk] Testing

2000-11-21 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 09:09:53AM +1100, Mary Gardiner wrote: > On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 01:25:38PM -0500, Laurel Fan wrote: > > > > > What factors would you take into consideration, and what > > would your plan look like? > > And where do you concentrate your energies? > > Do you subscribe to

Re: [techtalk] installing RAID controller on existing RedHat 6.2 system

2000-11-21 Thread Mary E. Mulderrig
Hi Naomi I thought you might find the following helpful http://www.redhat.com/support/manuals/RHL-6.2-Manual/ref-guide/ch-raid.html I have experienced major problems getting RHAT to recognize the very same controller that you are using. Finally in the interest of saving the remaining hair that

Re: [techtalk] Testing (Was: Re: Technical issues)

2000-11-21 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 01:25:38PM -0500, Laurel Fan wrote: > > What factors would you take into consideration, and what > would your plan look like? And where do you concentrate your energies? Do you subscribe to the 10% of the code == 90% of the bugs thing and look in the areas where known b

Re: [techtalk] Re: Technical issues (was Re: [grrltalk] "Confrontational" postings)

2000-11-21 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 01:06:06PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'd say free of all known bugs - who would willingly, knowingly, release > buggy software as anything other than an alpha or a beta release? > (ok, ok. What /sane/ entity?) > > And not just free of known bugs, but tested well. >

[techtalk] Re: Technical issues (was Re: [grrltalk] "Confrontational" postings)

2000-11-21 Thread Bek Oberin
Jenn Vesperman wrote: > Mary Gardiner wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 09:29:04AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > As for release 1.0: when there's a complete, bugtested set of features > > > which provide at least a minimum functionality for the type of program. > > > (Not an alpha or a be

Re: [techtalk] Adding a 2nd site to Apache

2000-11-21 Thread Tricia Bowen
setup a virtualhost that points to a different docroot. http://www.apache.org/docs/vhosts/examples.html -tricia On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Davida Schiff wrote: |Hi, | |I want to add a 2nd website (i.e. intranet) to my Apache Web Server and have |no idea on how to do it. Can anyone point me in the rig

[techtalk] Testing (Was: Re: Technical issues)

2000-11-21 Thread Laurel Fan
Excerpts from linuxchix: 21-Nov-100 [techtalk] Re: Technical is.. by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > And not just free of known bugs, but tested well. So, how do you test well? What testing procedures and methodolgies should be used? And how can adequate coverage be ensured? Scenario: You are designing a

[techtalk] Adding a 2nd site to Apache

2000-11-21 Thread Davida Schiff
Hi, I want to add a 2nd website (i.e. intranet) to my Apache Web Server and have no idea on how to do it. Can anyone point me in the right direction? TIA, Davida The mind I love must still have wild places, a tangled orchard where dark damsons drop in the heavy grass, an overgrown little wood,

Re: [techtalk] can't add default route

2000-11-21 Thread Kristin Ziel
Nicoya-- Some of these I have tried, some not... I'll give them a go tonight and let you know :) Kristin > 1. Can you add a static route that is not your default route? ie. if you're > adding 192.168.0.0 as your default, try adding a static 192.168.0.[machine's > ip] netmask 255.255.255.255

[techtalk] Re: Technical issues (was Re: [grrltalk] "Confrontational" postings)

2000-11-21 Thread jenn
Mary Gardiner wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 09:29:04AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > As for release 1.0: when there's a complete, bugtested set of features > > which provide at least a minimum functionality for the type of program. > > (Not an alpha or a beta, but fully bugtested) > >

Re: [techtalk] can't add default route

2000-11-21 Thread arindamc
At Tue, 21 Nov 2000 08:43:15 -0600 (CST) , Kristin Ziel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hi all-- > >Well, I crashed my computer and had to do a new reinstall. I'm coming up >with a strange error message, and my search for information on the >web proved fruitless. > >For some reason, I get a "Netw

[techtalk] can't add default route

2000-11-21 Thread Kristin Ziel
Hi all-- Well, I crashed my computer and had to do a new reinstall. I'm coming up with a strange error message, and my search for information on the web proved fruitless. For some reason, I get a "Network is unreachable" error message when I try to add my default route /sbin/route add default

[techtalk] Re: Technical issues (was Re: [grrltalk] "Confrontational" postings)

2000-11-21 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 09:29:04AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As for release 1.0: when there's a complete, bugtested set of features > which provide at least a minimum functionality for the type of program. > (Not an alpha or a beta, but fully bugtested) > IMO. YMMV. Bugtested to what exte

Re: [techtalk] Desperate Plea for CDROM mounting help!!

2000-11-21 Thread arindamc
At Sat, 18 Nov 2000 22:11:55 -0600 , "S. Stubbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Hey, it has been a while now and I have not been able to mount my >CDROM drive. I have mdk 7.2. I have one cdrom drive, it is recognized >correctly in the hardware. >It is IOMEGA Zip650 cd writer drive which is an

Re: [techtalk] installing RAID controller on existing RedHat 6.2 system

2000-11-21 Thread David Merrill
Naomi Hospodarsky wrote: > > hey folks, > > Anyone have any tips regarding taking an existing RedHat 6.2 server and > adding a RAID controller to it? > I've got the driver loading (I think) but when I boot, I only see my > original disk. How do I tell RH that there's a whole new giant space that

[techtalk] Re: Technical issues (was Re: [grrltalk] "Confrontational" postings)

2000-11-21 Thread jenn
Mary Gardiner wrote: > But when I first read the term "technical issues" I thought about a list > where topics of discussion were more: what's a good design for an SMTP > program? when's a good time for a program to enter release 1.0? (Both > questions I've faced recently.) Well, I'd be very hap