d in xsrc/local/programs/ttf2wsfont to generate a
> rendering in whatever size you specify, and load that into a
> wsdisplay.
The rasterizing there happens in nonprivileged code, though.
> There's also something to directly load BDF fonts.
Those are already rasterized; BDF is a bitma
occasionally.
> [I]n my opinion C is just not really safe without [the braces].
Is C *ever* safe? (Safe from what?)
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ing to cite at all. Perhaps I should have
made up something plausible but entirely fictitious, or gone and dug up
an example of a long else-if chain in real code somewhere.
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That's one of the very few uses I've found for if (0), and when the
per-case code is as small as in this example I find that formatting to
be the overall best. But it flies in the face of all sorts of rules.
That sort of judgement call is a hallmark of an AI-complete problem.
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[mCopyright (C) 2019 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
on startup.
How do I get it to stop doing that?
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uot;); neither
does the usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/conf/GENERIC (same searches).
If this belongs somewhere other than tech-userlevel, just point me in
the correct direction
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-executable granularity is
fine; if I find I want it system-wide, I'll play with the sysctl nodes
under security.pax; some of those look promising.
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ook less than 2s to render gcc.1,
> the by-then largest (by far) man page of all.
On what hardware? tls's "slowest supported hardware"? (What _is_ the
current "slowest supported hardware"?)
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cleanup and, for the 1.4T version, for switching to 64-bit time_t.)
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such things has generally been how to turn them off.
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ath, but
with a different path to a manpage source file) on 5.2 but not on 1.4T.
(And 5.2 predates mandoc(1).)
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shouldn't name catpages with a
manual-section suffix, if that works for him. Even if man(1) doesn't
understand it (which, if true, I would hope could be fixed in
man.conf), it's still a lot easier to read than the *roff source.
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MI "/lib/libedit.so.3"
419 1 sh NAMI "/lib/libterminfo.so.1"
419 1 sh NAMI "/lib/libc.so.12"
419 1 sh NAMI "/etc/malloc.conf"
419 1 sh NAMI "/var/mail/mouse"
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, I
>>> find this suggestion really bizzare.
For the record, I find the suggestion that _keeping_ the tool is
somehow the stance that requires justification really bizarre.
It seems to me that the onus to justify should be on the ones in favour
of change.
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macro
package to teach it to handle mandoc language (difficulty unsure; my
TeX memories are too rusty for me to more than guess, but my guess is
about a week, for me, after convincing TeX to run on my machines and
relearning it - not that I have even a week to dedicate to that).
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etBSD has lost that, in which case I'd be
more concerned about why and how such a crippling regression was
introduced. (And, for the sake of logical completeness, there's the
possibility that modern NetBSD has it but you think it doesn't, but I
would hope you'd know more than t
a disaster in the making.)
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ou'll have trouble finding
one that doesn't do something analogous in some cases).
This is a tradeoff. There is a benefit (isolating per-service
configuration) and a drawback (automation at the expense of
transparency and understandability). I think the drawbacks are the
greater; comp
ou need to use it.
That could be said in response to *any* objection to *any* proposed
change, so, if that's the strongest reply you have
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to be turned on" a part of system
configuration - if I take an ordinary system and strip out (say)
ntalk's definition, I'd classify that as a configuration change. An
unusual one, but still.
> xinetd does not get this right. Few if any of the foo.d schemes
> arising from the Lin
more
flexibility, as long as you ensure that the second field in a new-style
definition is never either of those.
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to look at the underlying TCP traffic. I
suspect something has caused it to slow to a crawl but not quite stop.
(I've seen such behaviour from TCP on a few occasions, though I haven't
understood any such occasion well enough to suggest a possible cause.)
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what you said that it does, but
I do wonder how.
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>>> I have to admit I only ever use it to shut up stupid USB mice from
>>> reconnecting every minute [...]
>> How does it affect that? [...]
> Simply by opening the mouse device (and the USB endpoint), the device
> thinks it is supported and stops the stupid "d
.conf already supports per-service overriding of the listen-addr.
According to cvsweb, this went in 1996-12-30 (inetd.8 rev 1.8, inetd.c
rev 1.16).
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"kbd0 at zs1 channel 0" and "ms0 at zs1 channel 1"),
with keystroke sequences to switch which kbd and ms the real keyboard
and mouse are connected to. Then I can point software at kbd0 and ms0,
or kbd1 and ms1, etc.
In the past, I used this mostly when running direct-to-the-hard
uous -
and EOF is usually -1.
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s a stdarg pointer
argument, apparently believing that all pointer types had to be
sufficiently similar, at least in an argument list, that this was
possible.
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nt beyond that. Are more recent C versions more restrictive,
or is this a POSIX thing, or is it an interaction of multiple pieces,
or what?
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is matter since I'm the person who added the code back in 1996.)
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though it works the way you outlined. It's total
speculation, but, perhaps someone intended to change the code but ended
up changing only the manpage?
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rue of requiring strong randomness at all; if I
didn't think it were utterly futile, I'd be asking for allowance to be
made for systems that don't need randomness. (But then, I'd also be
asking for various other things that NetBSD has recently gone in
diametrically opposed directi
I missing that makes this reasonable?
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at the
order in which they're processed doesn't end up mattering, or the
entries should be sorted in a well-defined order (whether hardwired or
chosen by the admin or indicated by the include directive or what).
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gs here
# no services
other-files:
I'm not sure whether the clever-stuff potential of that is enough to
outweigh the stupid-stuff potential. Maybe have some explicit
indication, either in first-file or some kind of option on the include,
needed? I'm not sure.
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, I think, is the only sane way to do this. Then, at least, the
admin is in a position to alter it as appropriate without needing to go
grubbing around in the source. *I* am fine with hacking on the source,
maybe, but even I usually prefer to not need to.
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elcome to use my code as the basis for
something of the sort in a more modern system. It's commits ba0f281
(most of it) and fec28fd (one bugfix) in my 4.0.1 src git tree
(git://git.rodents-montreal.org/Mouse/netbsd-fork/4.0.1/src). I can
also mail out copies and/or put them up for anonymous FTP.
I
knew I could count on someone to point it out if something of the sort
already existed!
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or maybe the test is broken?
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ower than nroff, it will be a problem in practice.
Manpage rendering with nroff as formatter is _already_ slow enough to
be annoying on slower machines, in my experience.
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ould make the file behave differently on different
inclusions.)
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nt implementation.
I'm curious: why do you care? If, of course, it's anything you can
talk about.
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xing mutexes then is, at best, an invitation to
disaster.
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things like put the fd
number on the command line of a program. Instead of
program -fd ${var}
you'd have to do something like
program -fd 3 3>&${var}
which, to me, defeats much (though admittedly not all) of the point.
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cost.
Personally, I would say "no", but just because I don't think something
is worth doing doesn't mean it isn't. This is not something I've ever
wished for; indeed, I can't recall ever having even seen such code.
(What I would prefer to see is more f
M. (I
think curses normally doesn't catch ^C either.)
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IGINT (and even more in the case of
curses and SIGTERM). I think curses does install a handler for
SIGWINCH, but IMO in the case of curses and SIGWINCH that makes sense.
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that does not sound to me like anything to count on.
Could someone check (and, if appropriate, correct) my understanding?
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a PR for this, or anyone else who cares to is welcome to do it
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d = opendir(".");
if (d) e = readdir(d);
// don't let the above be "optimized" away
(void)((volatile struct dirent *)e)->d_fileno;
return(0);
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-nt B to be the
same as B -ot A, which disagrees with the above two paragraphs.
> At least, I think sh's behaviour should be documented (if only in the
> sense that it's undefined).
That, I totally agree with.
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t the right resolution is.
(To forestall one likely suggestion: I am, however, sure that - at
least for my purposes - it is not UTF-8. Variable-sized characters is
a disaster I do not want to go anywhere near.)
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identical to a different 26. I see no particular reason to not just
use UTF-8 labels. Presumably they had some, but if it's in 3492 then
my reading missed it.
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ning would generate 16 (binary) billion
different names) or it has to read the directory and look for a name
that, after decoding, matches. I was assuming the latter case and
pointing out that there's the question of what to do if you find
multiple different names that decode to matches.
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mechanically determine that the .3java part is an added suffix and no
part of java.lang.System is.
That's not to say that there's no value in it. Just that I'm not
seeing it yet.
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lename encoding does not need to be a
two-way process as far as automated tools are concerned. Manpage names
get converted into filenames, but I see no reason for anything below
the human layer to go the other way.
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re and release in question, is probably a pretty hard minimum).
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> * The maximum is 65000.
It probably is actually 65535, or 65495, or some such; if there is a
limit that is actually 65000, it strikes me as unlikely to be anything
but someone imposing an artificial round-human-number limit.
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eg, pgmedge, or different processing
for each primary, or some such). Or circular pipelines, which seem
hard to come up with a use case for until you think that one process
could be ssh, or nc, or the like.
But I'd like it to also be capable of something like this, of piping
the P
... a | cat | b ...
which seems like...a step backwards, somehow, to me.
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kernel" dicta, "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mem" crashing things
doesn't bother me. But I'm not sure what those reasons are; I haven't
found a satisfactory statement of them.
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and people using Bourne-family shells for interactive use
tend to forget this, there's the difference between using sh -c and
using $SHELL -c. In my case, for example,
script -c 'echo x 1>&2'
would print x to stderr (if using sh -c) or put "x 1" into a file na
I daresay everybody
here takes it to mean.)
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. You mention SCSI, which
restrict it some but not all that much, and fdisk, which restricts it
more, but still not down to just one option. BPB may be a term
specific to some port, but if so I'm not familiar with it.
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has brought a
lot of benefits. I wonder if there isn't some better way I'm missing.
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of the
people on this list are competent to add an algorithm, though perhaps
not to choose/design one - though I would also guess we are very much a
minority among NetBSD users in that respect.
Mouse
lot easier than
replacing the API.
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the admin to list the prefix
filesystems as critical - and then doing the looping in a predictable
(and documented!) order so the admin can make the prefix filesystem get
mounted first.
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urposes, and I sometimes want it to. I currently handle
this by leaving it out of fstab entirely, mounting it (and starting the
relevant daemon) manually, but that is suboptimal, especially for
unattended boots such as powerfail recovery.
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u are thinking the forked children should stop themselves
instead of exiting and then *somehow* learn the new connection and exec
path for the next thing inetd wants to use them for? That's a lot more
moving parts and a lot more fragility than just letting the existing
child exit and fork
ng, more or
less, a stateless datagram service. If this was intended to apply to
only such services, then, sure, it's fine, but of sharply limited
value. If not, I can't see how it could ever work for things such as
my VNC forwarder above.
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as complicated as these imply.
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t that doesn't mean
> a simpler way is bad.
Well put.
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machines' setups
_almost_ identical can easily outweigh the benefits of going diskful.
> But you'd really have to go out of your way to set that up --
> certainly sysinst won't do that for you.
Sysinst won't do lots of things many people want.
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added. I'm tempted to try
doing it in my own code trees
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ones that nothing blocks waiting for.
To go even further, have the mounts partially happen, with accesses to
the mountpoint blocking, until fsck finishes and the mount is released;
that way the "wait for things it needs" part is automatic. (Failures
by fsck or mount would then lead to
7;d be inclined to require that the
binaries involved be on /). I suspect / may have to continue to be
handled more or less the way it is now: fsck before anything else,
remount or reboot depending on the result, then carry on with startup.
I've added this to my to-do list. Dunno when - or eve
inistration,
> when going single user
In some cases that would make a lot of sense. In some others it would
insanity.
But...can't we get close to that already with md?
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lly the right answer. But the quote above looks
more like a reflex reaction than a considered opinion, and - at least
as far as what got posted goes - whatever it is, it is not backed up
with any justifications.
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re useful. (It does
produce some noise, but little enough to be useful anyway.)
Perhaps this is an artifact of how I tend to code.
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ted it and whether that thing is now out
of service (which I'm not convinced the PDP-11 is, wholly) are of minor
import compared to its current utility, I would say.
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his message in the meantime, set
MKSTR_SUPPRESS_MESSAGE in the environment.
Then, after a couple of releases, and of course assuming nobody
squawks, dump it.
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r from certain there is no clever use for it.
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ough. I've been annoyed often
enough by those slight bits more effort myself.
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is, at
best, a heuristic approximation, and is fragile, liable to be broken by
the next compiler to come along.
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code that uses alloca() to be on a par
with code that uses, say, SCM_SECURITY ancillary data, sys$crmpsc(), or
#pragma aux: it's choosing to use a nonportable feature.)
Would you have reacted the same if I'd argued against support for, say,
the routines typically declared by ? Why
d-for-any-use
namespace, so there are no grounds for citing the standard as basis for
any behaviour whatsoever from that.
Ignoring that issue - if, say, they were NETBSD_SOURCE and
builtin_alloca instead - then I believe you are correct.
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letter or another underscore (7.1.3).
(7.1.4 talks about standard-specified library functions.)
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much effort for the
benefit": bludgeoning pkgsrc packages into building on my systems was
more effort than it was worth in the few cases where pkgsrc had
anything I was interested in - and, even then, once pkgsrc was no
longer interested in 1.4T, it was of sharply limited value to me in any
either side of "replace csh with tcsh". I don't
like tcsh much, but the reasons amount to "it's not what my fingers are
used to"; I like stock csh even less, because it differs even more from
what my fingers are used to.
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/9997 (which
generates powers of three). Obvious once pointed out, but I'd never
seen them before.
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