Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-30 Thread tlaronde
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:47:51PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: > On 29.01.2020 22:32, Alexander Nasonov wrote: > > Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:33:22AM +0100, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > >>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 09:21:23PM +, Roy Marples wrote: > To fix

merging /usr/bin etc. to / (was: Solving the syslogd problem)

2020-01-30 Thread Edgar Fuß
> This is elegant and I would like to see it. Just remove /usr entirely and > collapse its contents into / - no /usr/bin, no /usr/lib, etc. This thread started because syslogd lives in /usr, mounting of /usr depends on NETWORK, and so network daemons are unable to log to syslog (at least in the

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-30 Thread Kamil Rytarowski
IOn 30.01.2020 08:27, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:47:51PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: >> On 29.01.2020 22:32, Alexander Nasonov wrote: >>> Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:33:22AM +0100, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote: > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 a

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-30 Thread Greg Troxel
Piotr Meyer writes: > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 09:32:30PM +, Alexander Nasonov wrote: > [...] > >> I like it when fsck doesn't take ages to check /. With bigger /, >> it's going to be problematic. > > IMVHO moving /usr/bin, /usr/sbin and /usr/lib to / is reasonable, > and it will not lead to e

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-30 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 09:29:52AM +0700, Robert Elz wrote: > Date:Wed, 29 Jan 2020 19:33:56 - (UTC) > From:chris...@astron.com (Christos Zoulas) > Message-ID: > > | Having a split /usr makes little sense today though as joerg mentioned, > | even in the space-

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-30 Thread Joerg Sonnenberger
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:50:47AM -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: > Piotr Meyer writes: > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 09:32:30PM +, Alexander Nasonov wrote: > > [...] > > > >> I like it when fsck doesn't take ages to check /. With bigger /, > >> it's going to be problematic. > > > > IMVHO moving /

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-30 Thread Michael van Elst
chris...@astron.com (Christos Zoulas) writes: >Or have 2 syslogd binaries built from the same sources. One with only >localhost support in /sbin which starts up early during boot and another >which replaces it later when /usr is mounted. Having a split /usr makes >little sense today though as joer

Re: Solving the syslogd problem

2020-01-30 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Thu, 30 Jan 2020 21:12:43 +0100 From:Joerg Sonnenberger Message-ID: <20200130201243.gb90...@bec.de> | Size constraints for root (and not the rest) seems a bit strange. A result of technology changes, but ... | That's more an argument for having a /boot file